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Old 04-14-2005, 01:23 PM   #1
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TWE or COBB what are people using and what are the numbers they are putting down.
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Old 04-14-2005, 01:35 PM   #2
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TWE or COBB what are people using and what are the numbers they are putting down.

Look at the thread "My Dyno results" for info on Cobbs and, hate to say it, but if you searched you would find MANY threads on cams.

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Old 04-14-2005, 09:53 PM   #3
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sorry to intrude, but my question is about the same. what cams are there for a EJ18E? i have a 94 L
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:30 PM   #4
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:43 PM   #5
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You are going to have to remove the cams when you have your car smog tested unless you choose a profile that doesn't give you a CEL. THe only cams that don't reliably throw a CEL is the stage 1 TWE cams.

If you can register your car somewhere else, you need to decide how much work you want to do on your car. Cobb spicy cams will grate on your nerves with factory exhaust manifold, Borlas, or the SYMS/Maxim Works headers. If you go with the spicy cams, put an equal length header on at the same time.

If you are not wanting to do the equal length header, go with teh TWE stage 2 cams, they have less overlap and doesn't have to rely on good scavaging to produce any grunt under 2000 RPM (which is going to piss you off with the Spicy cams and the stock exhaust header).

Delta cams are inbetween TWE stage 2 and cobb spicy cams.
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Old 04-20-2005, 07:49 PM   #6
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my cobb spicy cams are cel-free

so do some research before posting blanket statements. it very much depends on the exhaust system.
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Old 04-20-2005, 08:12 PM   #7
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If you bought your cams second hand, you didn't get what you paid for.

If not, the burden of proof is on you tough guy. Of course, being a noob, you probably assume that the CEL mention was for an exhaust code, which is dependent on exhaust.

Seems like you are the only one making assumptions and blanket statements.

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Old 04-20-2005, 08:23 PM   #8
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well, to be fair, i threw a cel today about 1200 miles post-installation,
haven't pulled it yet.

you are correct, i assumed you were refering to exhaust cels. for that i apologize.

i'm not sure why i got called a noob though ...whatever.
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:46 PM   #9
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Section 8 - it's great that you have a nifty low member number and have been around since the beginning, but I can assure you, staticfirtz had his engine torn down to the block and back up again - he's not retarded. And obviously, neither are you, but his car ran quieter than before the cam/header combo. Take it FWIW but when somebody has first hand experienc (and I saw it with my own eyes) it didn't throw a CEL, until I just read this thread, which was after 1200 miles of driving.
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:47 PM   #10
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i'm not sure why i got called a noob though ...whatever.
Look at his member number. Almost everyone is a noob compared to Section.

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Old 04-21-2005, 09:55 AM   #11
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Look at his member number. Almost everyone is a noob compared to Section.

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What does a join date and member number and post count have to do with being a n00b or not? Section 8 has clearly been around for quite a while- that's fantastic and we all owe it to him for helping to make this board what it is.

That doesn't mean somebody with a high member number doesn't know anything about engines or subaru's or mechanics in general. Believe it or not, there IS life outside of NASIOC, or "i-club" or forums or the intarweb. Section 8 was here long before Shiv and TurboXS and Cobb signed up for the forums. He was a member before Clark, Jorge, Kingpin, ECS, et al. had names here...

get what I'm saying?

I apologize for turning this thread into a flame about nothing important - please continue the discussion on cams, and disregard the negativity and hostility.
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Old 04-21-2005, 10:19 AM   #12
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You are going to have to remove the cams when you have your car smog tested unless you choose a profile that doesn't give you a CEL. THe only cams that don't reliably throw a CEL is the stage 1 TWE cams.
I disagree. I've been running the Delta regrinds in my hybrid 2.5/2.2 with nary a misfire CEL. TWE is not the only trouble-free option.
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Old 04-21-2005, 10:47 AM   #13
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What does a join date and member number and post count have to do with being a n00b or not? Section 8 has clearly been around for quite a while- that's fantastic and we all owe it to him for helping to make this board what it is.

That doesn't mean somebody with a high member number doesn't know anything about engines or subaru's or mechanics in general. Believe it or not, there IS life outside of NASIOC, or "i-club" or forums or the intarweb. Section 8 was here long before Shiv and TurboXS and Cobb signed up for the forums. He was a member before Clark, Jorge, Kingpin, ECS, et al. had names here...

get what I'm saying?

I apologize for turning this thread into a flame about nothing important - please continue the discussion on cams, and disregard the negativity and hostility.
Easy there Cirrus. Simply stating, not defending, that technically, lots of people are noobs TO THIS BOARD as compared to Section. This is not a representation of worth or knowledge, just how long you have been on the board. That's it.

Don't get all upset about it, after all, you just nicely laid out how this is JUST an internet forum. Doesn't ultimately matter.

Bump for Cams that don't throw CEL.

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Old 04-21-2005, 10:56 AM   #14
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Do us and this thread a favor and drop it.

Talk about cams.

I know section8 personally. Great guy. Fun and funny. If him calling you a noob or tough guy gets under your skin then that sucks.

If you do a search on most things related to n/a performance you'll find Section8 adding great info. Sometimes a touch abrasive, but that's life.

Have a great day everybody.

Now about those cams.

gtwagon, That's surprising that you don't throw a misfire code. Do you have any other mods.
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Old 04-21-2005, 11:05 AM   #15
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so right now ive got my 02 set up with brullen equal length headers, brullen highflow cat, brullen catback, perrin lightweight crank, injen CAI, paranoid grounding kit for engine mods alone, would i be better off getting the TWE cams or the Cobb Cams?
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Old 04-21-2005, 11:05 AM   #16
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Actually, I have no cams. Well, I do, but no aftermarket cams. Bump for the other guys that do have cams and no CELs.

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Old 04-21-2005, 11:40 AM   #17
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I had the cams installed in a completly stock car, and they produced misfire codes on all 4 cyliinders (just like every other spicy cam owner).

If you bought your cams second hand, you didn't get what you paid for.

If not, the burden of proof is on you tough guy. Of course, being a noob, you probably assume that the CEL mention was for an exhaust code, which is dependent on exhaust.

Seems like you are the only one making assumptions and blanket statements.
Hmmm, I guess I am the ONLY Cobb spicy cam owner whose cams don't throw misfire codes. If people search, they can find my thread about how I passed OBD-II emissions with them. I had to take off the Cobb headers to get rid of the 0420 CEL, but the cams caused no problems and my tail pipe readings are nearly non-existent. Blanket statements are bad, umkay...

And to be helpful to the thread starter, whose search button is obviously broken : I put down 151whp on a dyno that stock RS's get 128whp. Or I put down 134whp on a dyno that stock RS's get 100whp...
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:05 PM   #18
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yeah my search button must be broken, ive seen your dyno post matt and its very impressive. i just wanted to hear what people had to say on this post since it was suppose to be more on preferance of TWE or COBB but i got a lot of information anyway. thanks
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You realize I was just playing, right?
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To get back on topic that I got out of hand on myself...

Back on topic- I can't speak 100% truth yet as staticfritz hasn't had a chance to get his CEL pulled, and he's already left for Chicago for the weekend, but I am betting that his CEL is purely emissions related. I could very well be proven wrong once we pull it, but judging by the circumstances that it happened under given his current setup (headers + hi-flow cat) I'm imagining we're going to find a p0420, so, chalk another person up to the mystery of why some apparently get CEL's and others don't.

Let's also make sure we're talking apples to apples here- for starters, just to make sure we're on the same page, those who have experienced CELs directly related to cam changes, what octane fuel are you running? What exhaust setup do you have? What MY car do you have? What engine (block/heads?)? I'm not suggesting we start a new thread on this stuff as it's all been hashed out in older ones, but you have to take that into account...

Again, sorry for my seemingly inflamatory and heated comments, it just rubbed me the wrong way. I know staticfritz in person and helped him turn a few nuts and bolts on his engine buildup/swap and I can assure you, we are both very nice people as I'm sure all you are too.

Here's to bringing this thread back on topic
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:32 PM   #22
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ha yeah i knew you were kidding, thats just me being a smartass ha
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cirrus- you make a good point because all those factors definitely will bring different results
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To get back on topic that I got out of hand on myself...

Back on topic- I can't speak 100% truth yet as staticfritz hasn't had a chance to get his CEL pulled, and he's already left for Chicago for the weekend, but I am betting that his CEL is purely emissions related. I could very well be proven wrong once we pull it, but judging by the circumstances that it happened under given his current setup (headers + hi-flow cat) I'm imagining we're going to find a p0420, so, chalk another person up to the mystery of why some apparently get CEL's and others don't.

I know for sure that his code will be emissions related as that is the only kind of CEL that is ever thrown.



Could someone please enlighten me to as why a misfire code is thrown with aftermarket cams?
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