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Old 04-21-2005, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default UP & DP install today am I missing anything?

Myself and a buddy will be installing an UP & DP on my wagon today. I went shopping yesturday and bought this stuff to help with the install:

Copper Gasket Maker
M12x1.25 Bolt to plug the EGT
2.2Kohm 1/2 watt resistor CEL Fix
"Help" #42002 CEL Fix
PB Blaster & WD40
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Today I'll be picking up:

O2 Sensor Socket
Permatex Anti Siez
Copper Washer for the EGT Bolt


Stuff that I already have:

Bottle neck jack (I got it for free)
2 jack stands
Socket set
Cordless Drill
Torque Wrench 10lbs-150lbs
Misc Tools

The UP came with gaskets but not the DP. My buddy said that I should be fine reusing the DP gaskets. Also the Bolt to plug the EGT is a 1/2" long and doesn't seat into the UP. It needs to lose about a 1/4" so I'll be looking for a smaller lengthed bolt today as well.

Is there anything that I'm forgetting or is there anything that I should remove from my list?
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Old 04-21-2005, 12:12 PM   #2
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forgot the 12-pack of heineken
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Old 04-21-2005, 12:19 PM   #3
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Old 04-21-2005, 12:32 PM   #4
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gloves or band-aids... your choice.
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Old 04-21-2005, 01:27 PM   #5
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M12x1.25 Bolt to plug the EGT
An M12x1.25 nut to use as a locknut with the bolt on the UP. Then that sucker is guaranteed to seal / not move.
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Old 04-21-2005, 01:30 PM   #6
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Good luck with the O2 sensor on the manifold.
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Old 04-21-2005, 01:36 PM   #7
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A pair of tin snips incase you can't get the O2 sensor out. If you are doing the install from the bottom then you should have a couple blocks of wood to put under the oil pan when you jack the motor up.

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Old 04-21-2005, 02:03 PM   #8
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you forgot the Glock 23 to shoot yourself with. j/k

its not that bad. but plan on all day to do. depends on how much you know bout that stuff. I had done every exhaust part on an RS, so I thought I could do it just fine, but its quite different on a WRX. took me 7hours to do the UP/Down!

Its not necessary to take the o2 sensor out of the manifold. I didnt. I just cut the heat shield and removed it. then jacked the engine up and pulled the UP out through the top with a lot manipulation.
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:19 PM   #9
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gloves or band-aids... your choice.
I've noticed that after you donate blood to the car gods everything seems to go smooth. We'll just have to wait and see!
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:20 PM   #10
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An M12x1.25 nut to use as a locknut with the bolt on the UP. Then that sucker is guaranteed to seal / not move.
I just bought one today. But I can't seem to find any Anit Siez!
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:21 PM   #11
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Good luck with the O2 sensor on the manifold.
Well I got the O2 Sensor socket so I'm hoping that is won't be to bad.
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:21 PM   #12
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A pair of tin snips incase you can't get the O2 sensor out. If you are doing the install from the bottom then you should have a couple blocks of wood to put under the oil pan when you jack the motor up.

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I've got two 4x4 blocks of wood standing by.
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:23 PM   #13
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you forgot the Glock 23 to shoot yourself with. j/k

its not that bad. but plan on all day to do. depends on how much you know bout that stuff. I had done every exhaust part on an RS, so I thought I could do it just fine, but its quite different on a WRX. took me 7hours to do the UP/Down!

Its not necessary to take the o2 sensor out of the manifold. I didnt. I just cut the heat shield and removed it. then jacked the engine up and pulled the UP out through the top with a lot manipulation.
Just a quick question, will I need two (2) M12x1.25 bolts? One for the manifold and one for the Up Pipe?
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:24 PM   #14
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I had a fight with the EGT probe and uppipe wrestling it out from under the engine but apart from that it went smooth. Took me around 6 hours with beer and food stops.

Take your time, have fun!

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Old 04-21-2005, 02:25 PM   #15
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You jacked the engine and pulled the uppipe up through the top?



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you forgot the Glock 23 to shoot yourself with. j/k

its not that bad. but plan on all day to do. depends on how much you know bout that stuff. I had done every exhaust part on an RS, so I thought I could do it just fine, but its quite different on a WRX. took me 7hours to do the UP/Down!

Its not necessary to take the o2 sensor out of the manifold. I didnt. I just cut the heat shield and removed it. then jacked the engine up and pulled the UP out through the top with a lot manipulation.
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:26 PM   #16
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I had a fight with the EGT probe and uppipe wrestling it out from under the engine but apart from that it went smooth. Took me around 6 hours with beer and food stops.

Take your time, have fun!

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PB Blaster baby!
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:28 PM   #17
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I used plenty of PB Blaster, just that my sensor socket was a bit wonky and I had a hell of a time getting it in there. In the end I bent it and cut the heat shield.
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:35 PM   #18
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make sure your socket set has the deep sockets (12 nad 14mm) and u joint
I used more than 1 can of pb blaster and had no probs with any bolt/nut.
If you have the crowfoot sensor removal tool, you don't have to remove the front wheel...and just the 3 rear plastic thigies in the access panel.
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:09 PM   #19
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A 22mm open end wrench makes getting that 02 sensor out a piece of cake.
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:14 PM   #20
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or a crows foot o2 socket. $10 from autozone.

edit: get used to being everyones friend after you buy one.

the bonus is you get free food most of the time so it pays itself back!
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:24 PM   #21
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The last up I did took 2hrs start to finish. That was with air and on a 4k mile car. I have found that it takes the same amount of time no matter wich way you do it.
On the O2 sensor try the O2 socket first some times they pop right out. When you do the O2 sensor unplug it and take the small bracket off. Then run the conector and wire out throught the acess panel. That way you don't twist the wires all up on the sensor.
When I did my first uppipe I was very reluctant to do it because of all the hype on the forums about 8-12hr install times. It only took ~4hrs. After I was done I said " That was not as hard as people say".

Good luck
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:28 PM   #22
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Just a quick question, will I need two (2) M12x1.25 bolts? One for the manifold and one for the Up Pipe?
Only 1 for the EGT sensor in the uppipe. The O2 sensor needs to go back into the manifold.
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:43 PM   #23
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Only 1 for the EGT sensor in the uppipe. The O2 sensor needs to go back into the manifold.
Ok, thanks. I missed understood what the last guy was getting at.
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:46 PM   #24
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Also need 10, 12, 14, and 18mm wrenches and sockets. Flex heads are especially useful in a few situations
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Old 04-21-2005, 04:32 PM   #25
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Where is a good point to left the front of the car.
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