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Old 08-22-2005, 11:53 AM   #1
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Default so my EJ20RA is toast....for now

poot. went to track ffiday to beat up porsches and skunk the GTR. skunked the GT with a stock SR20det S13, then the Ej20 RA spin #2 rod bearing.

any suggestions on what i should do with this longblcok? all it needs id a rebuild and then its perfect. no damage at all
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Old 08-22-2005, 12:19 PM   #2
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ide say rebuild the thing. those heads kick @ss, and the bottom ends are good as well. ill say its like 400-500 bucks to have the subaru dealership rebuild your shortblock. and im not sure on your experience, but breaking down a subaru to a shortblock in not that hard. maby 4-5hrs after you got the engine out of the car.
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Old 08-22-2005, 12:35 PM   #3
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4-500 bux. hmm. thats it?? so i hand them my dead shortblock, and then it comes back OEM perfect?
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:09 PM   #4
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uh where did you pull that number from ???

as if a subaru dealer is going to know what to do with a phase 1 ej20 or be able to get parts
i know noah rebuilt his (befor he worked at cobb) with trey's help. spun a berring- upgraded to a 2.5 block and rebuilt the short block again and sold it
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:14 PM   #5
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well if you think about it. a EJ20G short block is pritty close to the EJ22T block. and subaru charges 40hrs to pull the engine, rebuild it from scrap, and put it back in. So i just figgured that a short block would only 4-5hrs of labor(saw a subaru tech. do it in 2).
And all they would do is put in a new bearing, using your old parts, assuming everything is good.

my .o2
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Old 08-22-2005, 03:48 PM   #6
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That engine will require more then $400 in just machining. You can't just throw bearings in a toasted engine. Junk that block and get the 2.5. You wont break a 2.5 block.
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:07 PM   #7
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i wouldnt say its junk. im not a fan of the USDM EJ257 block. i like the 2 liter for various reasons. lots of people rebuild these things for some reason or other-
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:16 PM   #8
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2.5L block time and keep JDM heads. Supermoose hit me up anytime if you need help. You know where to find me.
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:22 PM   #9
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ej22T block! better then the rest, cheap too
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Old 08-22-2005, 05:18 PM   #10
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ej22T block! better then the rest, cheap too
If you can find em now. Suby no more makey.
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Old 08-22-2005, 05:40 PM   #11
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I am with Moose on this. I've got two Ej20g blocks and an Ej257 block in the garage that I am going to rebuild. It isn't freaking rocket science. I am going to have a machine shop do the machining work, and then do the assembly. I am actually contemplating doing one of them overbored slightly with forged pistons.

EJ20g bearings are the same as Ej18 and Ej22 bearings. I figured I could do my RS-RA for $300 in parts and machine shop time. I've got wholesale accounts, so for the general public I would figure $400-500 if you do it yourself. To pay a Subbie mechanic to do it, I would figure $800-1000. Or have someone like Crawford or Cobb or Axis do it and expect to spend around $2500...
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Old 08-22-2005, 05:55 PM   #12
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im with matt and super too, the 2 liter is my hero... haha

i wouldnt mind a 2.2 either, same stroke as the 2 liter, yum.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:19 AM   #13
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Yea stick with the 2L or better yet moose bore that baby out to a 2.2L!!!
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:00 AM   #14
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hmm. can anyone confirm that the EJ22G usdm legacy and the EJ20G solid deck block is identical, just bored?
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:26 AM   #15
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No, the blocks are not identical, and no it is not bored. It is cast that way. What is identical is the bearings...
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:32 PM   #16
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^^ correct. you could however, thow in your V2 STi crank and possibly rods (?) into an ej22g block.
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Old 08-23-2005, 07:01 PM   #17
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^^ correct. you could however, thow in your V2 STi crank and possibly rods (?) into an ej22g block.
Good luck finding an Ej22G block. That's the 22b, and they only made +/-450 at the most if you count spares. Me thinks you mean Ej22t block...
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Old 08-24-2005, 07:10 AM   #18
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When in doubt call Jeff Shu at Chaste Auto or Otis at North Coast Subaru. Both are great guys and know a lot about Subarus.
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:40 AM   #19
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When in doubt call Jeff Shu at Chaste Auto or Otis at North Coast Subaru. Both are great guys and know a lot about Subarus.

Are you saying you think they can find you a 22B block?
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:59 AM   #20
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word on the street is that the 22b block is open deck 2.2L - the block never wears out though
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Are you saying you think they can find you a 22B block?
No, saying they can get it running again. They are familiar with the JDM motors and parts. Both companies prep rally cars and have worked on the JDM motors as well as have access to the parts.
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Old 08-24-2005, 12:21 PM   #22
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i thought the 22b deck as well ass the ej22t deck were closed and the new subaru ej engines were open/semi closed
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i thought the 22b deck as well ass the ej22t deck were closed and the new subaru ej engines were open/semi closed
That is how I understand it as well. My '99 2.2L is open deck. Older Legacy 2.2T is closed deck.
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Old 08-26-2005, 08:39 AM   #24
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the spun bearing longblock.
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