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Old 07-27-2001, 11:59 AM   #1
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Default What are you using to replace OEM tires?

With the first Foresters on the road now for almost 4 years, a lot of us have probably gone through our first set of tires. Like our Impreza friends with their Bridgestone RE92s, I imagine a lot of us have been less than thrilled with our Bridgestone Duelers (Ls) or Yokohama Geolandars (Ss). As for me, I have 25K on 3 of the 4 Geolandars and 2K on the 4th (yes, I checked diameters and they were within SoA recommended spec so didn't replace all 4 at once). I expect I'll have to replace them all eventually.

So the question, in subparts:

1. Forester L or S?
2. How many miles did you get from your OEM tires?
3. What kind of driving to you do (all pavement, light off-roading, gravel and unpaved secondary roads, etc.)?
4. Did you replace your OEM tires with a different type? If so, what and why (better wet/dry/snow traction, tread life, autoX, etc.)?
5. Modders: if you switched from the OEM wheels, what wheel/tire combo are you currently using? Any problems with offset differences, like tire rubbing?

Not a difficult set of questions but I don't think they've been asked in this forum before.

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Old 07-27-2001, 12:04 PM   #2
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Ed,
if you're thinking about a good summer tire, I'd suggest the Yokohama avs db. btw..I'll keep my ears open for a grill solution bud!
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Old 07-27-2001, 01:16 PM   #3
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ferretboy,

This is more of a poll than anything else - I think others would like to know as well.

As for me yeah, I was looking at the AVS db as well as the Dunlop SP Sport 5000. Back in the day when I had an '86 Jetta I was happy with my set of Bridgestone RE71s except for tread life and was even happier with my Dunlop D60A2s - much better tread life without a major loss of grip over the RE71s. But this is now and a Forester is by no means an A2 Jetta.

We do get some snow of note here in eastern PA - about 2-3 feet a season. My personal driving habits are about 95:5 tarmac:gravel/dirt. Ideally I'd like to get a set of Arctic Alpins or Blizzaks for the 16" S wheels and a set of 17" wheels - P7s or maybe P1s even - with a good summer tire like an RE930 or S-02. The reality of the sitch is that I probably will stick with just the S wheels so I'll need something that has some semblance of snow traction. I personally would like something with better dry and wet grip than the Geolandars and, given that we're not quite in the tundra, the SP Sport 5000 seemed like a good compromise.

Again, any and all comers please share your $0.02.

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Old 07-27-2001, 02:33 PM   #4
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At about 22k miles, I switched to 17x7 (+40mm offset) BSA wheels (which are copies of the Enkei Suzukas). For the LOW price I got them for, they came with 235/45 17 Federal Tires (which are copies of Falkens).

These things have been great so far. I have over 10k miles of 100% tarmac driving on them and have never had one let loose or squeal. With my suspension modded the way it is, believe me when I say I have tried to find the limit of these tires adhesion, to no avail.

I would have to say they are probably as good as a namebrand tire costing much much more. (The store I got the combo at offers the tires for like $75 each.) All I can say is I have been happy with them.
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Old 07-27-2001, 11:35 PM   #5
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I have a Forester S and at about 20,000 miles the Yokahamas were toast. I had the dealer check the alignment and they said it was fine.

I wasn't that thrilled with the Yokahamas. They were OK in the rain and snow, but put a few inches of slush on the road and forget it. Not too noisy worked well in the dry and I was able to navigate the beaches of th Outer Banks of N.C. with no problems. All around an average tire. It didn't do anything great. Maybe I would of been happier with them if I got at least another 15,000 miles out of them.

I am happy with the rims on my MY2000 Forester S and wanted to retain the stock tire size. After months of research I had two tires selected 1) Michelin Pilot XGT H4 and 2) Falken Ziex ZE-502 I chose to go with the Falken's because of the price plus I have a 65,000 mile tread life waranty. I was starting to second guess my choice as I was wondering how they would perform in the elements. Well after driving from Toledo to Cleveland in a non stop torential rain storm I can tell you that they are wonderful in the rain. They are much better around the corners than the Yokahamas ever were and I do not notice any road noise. Recently I just put on a 18mm sway bar and talk about cornnering differences (Subaru should consider uping the stock 13mm rear sway bar to at least a 16mm IMHO). In October we will be heading down to N.C. so I can't wait to hit the mountains in Virginia with all the new mods. I will also get to see how they work on the beach. As for the snow, I'll have to wait a bit longer for that.
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Old 07-28-2001, 02:23 PM   #6
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Ed,

1. Forester S
2. ~43K Miles -- probably could have gone a couple more thousand easily, but the winter was approaching
3. 99% Pavement, 1% Light off-road
4. Decided to stick with the Geolandars. I was happy with their all-around performance, even in 6" of snow. I looked at several other H-rated all-season tires and didn't find one that I thought would offer the range of applications as the Geolandars.

When these wear out, I think I want to try the Dunlop SP5000 everyone's been raving about in a plus-zero size.

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Old 07-31-2001, 03:25 PM   #7
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bump - but I caught this statement from ColinL over in the Suspension, Brakes, Wheels, Tires forum:

"...practically no tires made for 17-18" fitments will have much traction on gravel, and you'll bend a lot more than a wheel if you have a nasty off or run over a large animal..."

This adds another factor to the modders' question: what are those gravel-friendly tires in 17" fitments? I'll pose the same question to the poster in the other forum.

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Old 07-31-2001, 04:11 PM   #8
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Ed,

There are 17-18" all-season light truck tires available (ie. Michelin Pilot LTX) that do offer better light off-road duty performance. The only issue is that these sizes tend to come in widths of 250+ so it probably isn't a solution for our vehicles.

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