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Old 04-28-2005, 04:07 AM   #1
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OMGHi2U Just installed rear sway and endlinks and have clunking

so it's a progress bar, looks just like perrin's, and I think the endlinks are noltec's but I got 'em used (thanks don) so I don't know for sure...

anyways, it's sitting right at the top edge of the exhuast can, so of course it's gonna' clunk. I'm wondering if I installed 'em wrong, so, without further adue, here's the pics!!



I was thinkin' maybe I installed the mounts on the wrong side (switched driver's and passenger's) but they lined up straight as is...




any ideas? should I take 'em off 'till I figure it out or just let it clang

btw, I have it on the middle setting...

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Old 04-28-2005, 10:17 AM   #2
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Will swapping the brackets move the bar forward? It looks like it might, but it could just be the angle of the pics.

Looks like you have the stock muffler, so I'm thinking those brackets are positioning the bar in the wrong place. It looks like you couldn't even use the softest setting if you wanted to.

My Perrin Bar has tons of clearance, granted I have endlink noise, but hopefully that will be resolved. The instructions did mention that putting the brackets in backwards would be a problem.

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Old 04-28-2005, 11:48 AM   #3
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Will swapping the brackets move the bar forward?
the U brackets under the bar? they are slotted so you can slide the bar back and forward a bit...but not much. i have a progress bar with poltec endlinks and its installed just like yours, no clunking on mine and its set on the stiffest setting right now. it made noise with the stock endlinks though.... but didnt hit the exhaust, i have no idea about that one....
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:08 PM   #4
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I don't know how you made it fit but the sway bar bolts onto the inside side of the endlink, not the outside.
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:19 PM   #5
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I don't know how you made it fit but the sway bar bolts onto the inside side of the endlink, not the outside.
even on aftermarket bars? 'cause it lined up pretty darn well on both sides with the endlinks on the insides...

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the U brackets under the bar? they are slotted so you can slide the bar back and forward a bit...but not much. i have a progress bar with poltec endlinks and its installed just like yours, no clunking on mine and its set on the stiffest setting right now. it made noise with the stock endlinks though.... but didnt hit the exhaust, i have no idea about that one....
is it even close ta' hitting the can? from what it looks like under there if I swapped them back it would toe them in a bit rather than have them sit straight...

ARGH!
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:21 PM   #6
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even on aftermarket bars? 'cause it lined up pretty darn well on both sides with the endlinks on the insides...

If you say your bar is like perrin then yes, that how I have mine installed, on the inside.
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:26 PM   #7
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hmmm... I was just goin' off this perrin install over at clubwrx
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:40 PM   #8
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If you think you're right, then okay ...
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:58 PM   #9
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this isn't a matter of thinking I'm right,
I'm just trying to problem solve here and find out if I did something wrong...

the picks in the link have it installed one way and because I used them as a refrence it might be useful info to help troubleshoot

I just crawled under there and checked if swapping them would bring the bar forward, unfortunatly it'd bring the bar back even farther...
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:02 PM   #10
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I don't know how you made it fit but the sway bar bolts onto the inside side of the endlink, not the outside.
The stock bar bolts the endlinks to the outside of the bar as you suggested, but aftermarket bars (at least the perrin/progress) bolt the endlinks to the inside of the bar.

Honestly swapping that wouldn't fix the problem anyway if he even could.

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the U brackets under the bar? they are slotted so you can slide the bar back and forward a bit...but not much. i have a progress bar with poltec endlinks and its installed just like yours, no clunking on mine and its set on the stiffest setting right now. it made noise with the stock endlinks though.... but didnt hit the exhaust, i have no idea about that one.....
Actually I was referring to the brackets that the U brackets are bolted onto. The HD mounts that attach to the frame. I think rollingCULTURE understood though since he said it might possibly move the bar back instead.

Maybe the endlinks are longer than typical? Shorter links would swing the bar forward I think. Compare to them to the stock ones if you haven't already.

I know that's a long shot, but maybe someone sold you links designed for a different bar??? (no offense to Don )
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:28 PM   #11
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so as per Nitro Don's recogmendation I tried attaching the sway at the bottom of the endlink, and then I call progress and they said I had it right the first time around

so I'm up against a wall here...

where's the suby guru's at?!!
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:39 PM   #12
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so as per Nitro Don's recogmendation I tried attaching the sway at the bottom of the endlink, and then I call progress and they said I had it right the first time around

so I'm up against a wall here...

where's the suby guru's at?!!
I had them working fine on my WRX.
The endlink is a standered Noltec which is the munufacture for MRT. The swaybars and endlinks were bought from Oakos. I talked to him when I bought them.He was running the same set-up. Try PM'ing him.

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Old 04-29-2005, 12:51 PM   #13
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The stock bar bolts the endlinks to the outside of the bar as you suggested, but aftermarket bars (at least the perrin/progress) bolt the endlinks to the inside of the bar.
Not the photo that perrin has:

http://www.perrinperformance.com/Pro.../Sway_Rear.htm
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:27 PM   #14
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Ya got me, that is of course if Rollingculture's description of 69 WRX Spaceship translates into S T I. However, his pics look like the bottom of a WRX to me!!



In case the pic doesn't post, since i'm not hosting Perrin's pics:
http://www.perrinperformance.com/Ass...Bar_Rear02.jpg

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Old 04-29-2005, 01:33 PM   #15
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Oh okay ...
Perrin redesigned the swaybars ... I have the red ones with the solid mounts on my WRX.

Forget it ;p
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:59 PM   #16
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For the progress and perrin bar, endlinks go on the inside. Is your car lowered at all? That could make the bar rotate further back. Everything looks properly installed (i have the progress bar with helix endlinks). There's no way you'll be able to install the new reinforced mounting brackets backwards and be able to bolt up the anti-sway bar properly. I read about the issues with the anti-swaybar clanking against the muffler, so i replaced the the two exhaust hangers on the actual muffler canister with some Kartboy Hardened Exhaust Hangers (you only need 2) to prevent the muffler from bouncing around and clunking when i installed my bar. So far i've had no noises. You may want to try that first (it's only about $15 for 2 hangers so it's a really inexpensive fix). Shorter endlinks would also help (i.e. kartboy endlinks) since they'll rotate the bar forwards a bit, but only go that route if the exhaust hangers don't do the job.

My car: Progress rear anti-sway bar, Helix endlinks, KYB AGX struts, Prodrive springs (1" drop in the back), Kartboy Exhaust Hangers, and no clunking so far.
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hey Pysdotek, thanks for the reply!

I was thinking of trying longer hangers so it can hang down lower, but I think it would still hit. my problem is that the sway is actually resting against the can, so it's not even an issue of the exhuast moving 'cause it's pinned in there!

and yes, it is lowered, don't know on what though. I think the previous owner put eibach sportlines on there 'cause it rides like stock and the coils are black... how much is your car lowered?
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Mine's only 1" in the back and almost 1.5" in the front. I have Prodrive springs.
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