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Old 04-29-2005, 04:25 PM   #1
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Well driving home last night I got another flat. That's the second in the last month or two.

This time it's in one of my ES100 and it too will need to be replaced.

I have to get my car ready for Auto-X school next Saturday so, what do I do now?

Do I buy 2 or 4 new tires? I'm leaning towards replacing all 4.

Right now I have 25-30% left but I guess I might as well replace em now.
So...

Do I go with 225/45/17's again or should I get 215/45/17's?

Also what tire?
ES100's - they seem to be a pretty good all round tire and should last 2 full summers

ECSTA MX - Will I get 2 full seasons out of these?

SP SPORT FM901 - I'm thinking these are quite comparable to the ES100's but a little cheaper. has anyone tried them?

Is there another good tire in $200 price range that would be better for me?

Will anyone in town compete with tiretrends pricing?

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Old 04-29-2005, 04:30 PM   #2
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eric do you find with the 225's when ytou are driving down the road they grab all the pathes in the road and throw you around a bit (does that make sense???)

like the tires follow the paths in the cement where its worn down from other cars but the tires are to wide and dont follow the path very well so its pulls you around in the car trying to follow them

I really notice it with my 235's

Sorry to jack your thread
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:11 PM   #3
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No worries. Yes I really do find that with the 225's. I'm guessing 215's a are a little better.

I think that a softer sidewall would also be better but, I don't know if it's a trade of that I take.
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Old 04-29-2005, 06:08 PM   #4
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Eric,

You do NOT want to autocross on tires thaat new. Tires need a few good heat cycles in them before they're ready for that sort of thing, and given our current temps, it probably would be a bad idea.

Find another RE92 (to match your other flat tire) and put both in the back. Car will rotate better although it will likely somewhat compromise the cornering speeds.

Even I plan to heat cycle my R-compounds on the street a few times before I take them to the track.

Just thinking out loud.

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Old 04-29-2005, 06:20 PM   #5
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Will anyone in town compete with tiretrends pricing?
Not in any of my experiences. Kal-tire said they would and then backed out on it for me (still bought there, though)

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do you find with the 225's when ytou are driving down the road they grab all the pathes in the road and throw you around a bit
All the time!! I've even done walk arounds the car to make sure I didn't have a flat...What we go through to look cool ... (I'm on 225/40/18's).
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Old 04-30-2005, 02:35 AM   #6
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hmmmm. So Mark......

What your saying is I need to get new tires on Monday and drive the snot out of em until Saturday?

I suppose I could do the AutoX on 2 RE92's and 2 ES100's but, I think that my car would really really want to rotate.

I guess I'll have to see how quick I can get new tires on my car.

Anyone have and decent used tires up for sale?
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:01 AM   #7
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Do not use different tires front to back on your Subaru, even if they are the same size. The rolling resistance difference is enough to cause problems. They tear up your center differential & greatly reduce it's life. They are not cheap to replace either! If you MUST buy one tire, buy two of the same kind & place it on the same axle (so to speak) but ake sure that ALL the tires are the same. Just trying to save you from unnecessary repairs that I endured.

The Dunlop FM901 is a very good tire. I'd say comparable to the ES100. They are not quite as good in the heavy rain but their dry weather grip is better. I never had a chance to auto-x them but with my hard driving they are the best dry weather tire I've tried in that price range. Spring the money for some Falken Azenis, you won't be sorry. Just ask Schlong8.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:12 AM   #8
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SP SPORT FM901 - I'm thinking these are quite comparable to the ES100's but a little cheaper. has anyone tried them?

These came on my BBS rims when I bought the car. I would not recommend them. They are loud as hell and the grip is terrible when accelerating in a corner. Of course this is comparing them to a set of S0-3 under same conditions.
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:11 PM   #9
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Thanks for the advise damianq and Vandy.
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:33 PM   #10
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I've tried both the Azenis and MX and for auto-x they are both very competitive tires, but don't buy these tires for longevity. If you auto-x on a semi-regular basis on these tires don't expect more than two seasons with them. Both the ES100 and the FM901 are a little less hardcore then the Azenis and MX, and are priced less. I'd recommend the Falken GRB-451 if you are considering the ES100's. They seem to have great wet weather grip, longer wearing then the Azenis, very streetable (not too noisy, or excessive tramlining) and still grippy (I think Thoppe with these freshly shaved tires won SCCA STX last year.)
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Old 04-30-2005, 04:53 PM   #11
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Are these the same as the Falken FK-451?
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Old 04-30-2005, 04:59 PM   #12
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Zuffy you have been running the MX for a while right?

I don't think I would get any more then 2 seasons out of ES100's. Would I get a full 2 seasons out of MX?

Should I pay the extra $100 for MX? hmmmmmmm
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Old 04-30-2005, 05:16 PM   #13
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Here I thought you guy's might get a kick out of this.





The pictures don't do it justice but, needless to say the tire went flat immediately.
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Old 04-30-2005, 07:26 PM   #14
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Are these the same as the Falken FK-451?
Whoops, those are what I meant. I can't get all alpha-numeric names stright.

I can't say for sure if you will get 2 seasons out of the tires. I guess it all depends on how much you slide the car around corners.

Oh, and that's a big ouch in the tire!
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Old 05-02-2005, 01:16 PM   #15
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Well the FK-451's were going to take a week to come in

I ended up going with the ES100's so that I'll have them in time for the Auto-x School.

Thanks for the advice guys.
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Old 05-02-2005, 01:49 PM   #16
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How come you didn't consider the Ecsta Supra? For the money this seems to be a pretty good tire.

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Old 05-02-2005, 04:14 PM   #17
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I've heard mixed things about that tire. Are you using it? Do you find it to be pretty good?
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Old 05-02-2005, 04:25 PM   #18
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I've heard mixed things about that tire. Are you using it? Do you find it to be pretty good?
I'm looking at a set for my wife's car (Maxima). It won't see track time and will only be driven hard when I'm behind the wheel

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Old 05-02-2005, 10:41 PM   #19
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I went through a set of Kumho MX's last summer in under 5 months. They were slicks at the end. They were the stock 205/55/R16 size. Sticky tire, but the highway driving I do killed them.
This summer I'm rolling on the ES-100's size 225/40/18's. The tires feel just as sticky as the Mx's did. But the stickiness I'm feeling could be due to the rim size change and the RSB I've added since last year. The tires don't seem to be wearing badly but that's what I thought about the MX's at first too.
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