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Old 05-01-2005, 12:01 PM   #1
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Anybody know of an inexpensive way of getting the valve springs compressed. I'm trying to get the springs out so I can finish up the machining work. The only thing I see for getting them (springs compressed) off are expensive ($125-up) spring compressor/remover tools. I would buy one but I don't think I'll be doing this again anytime soon I've got a friend that works at the body shop at one of the local Subaru dealers and said he can get me most any Subaru special tool but not sure about this one. In the mean time I figured I would investigate my options outside of purchasing one.

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Old 05-01-2005, 04:00 PM   #2
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http://subaru.spx.com/index.asp

EDIT: Specifically, http://subaru.spx.com/detail.asp?partid=J%2D8062 and http://subaru.spx.com/detail.asp?partid=499718000 ... but you should call them and talk to them about pricing and confirm the parts. Not gonna be cheap.

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Old 05-01-2005, 04:03 PM   #3
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getting valve springs OFF doesnt require special tools, just a hammer and a socket. a valve spring compressor is needed to put the keepers back on however.
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Old 05-01-2005, 06:59 PM   #4
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Okay, so if my buddy can't get access to this tool then my options are either; 1.) purchase one or 2.) have a machine, specifically one that specializes in cyl heads put them back together for me? I wonder if this is something that you could rent though? You guys ever heard of that? I rented a piston ring compressor but doesn't look like the same place has valve spring compressors.
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Old 05-01-2005, 08:15 PM   #5
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valve spring compressors are not a subaru specific tool. Are you getting any of the machining (specifically resurfacing) done at a a machine shop? if so they could easily re-assemble the heads for you.

If the heads are off your motor, i strongly suggest you take the dissasembled heads to a machine shop to be cleaned, resurfaced and reassembled.


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If you really want to do the heads yourself, here is a link to a cheapo (will probably get the job done fine) valve spring compressor from JC Whitney. not bad, only about $30

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Old 05-01-2005, 08:38 PM   #6
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Crawd,

Yeah, I didn't think about that. These guys (my auto machine shop) already did a great job on my block bores and flywheel. I was planning on dropping the heads off tomorrow to be decked so I guess I'll see if they can do this as well. I'm really not being cheap here rather I can't jusitify spending a good chunck of change on a specialty tool that I will probably not need again (hopefully) for another several years. You know what I mean? Tools of the trade are cool when you actually need them 'often'

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cool.

well since you are dropping them off to get resurfaced, its no big deal to let them take them apart and put them back together.

good luck!
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:03 PM   #8
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I would also suggest letting the shop do the work, wont cost much extra.. or shouldnt. Also i would have them do a valve job.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:53 AM   #9
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id second the shop doing it, they are the best while they are at it. Dont just buy any tool, i made this mistake with a generic valve spring compressor and it didnt fit at all. In the end i used an F clamp and a coke bottle. Works perfectly.
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Old 05-03-2005, 09:00 AM   #10
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So I finally decided to leave this job to the experts. I dropped off the heads yesterday and they (machine shop) talked me into having them rebuild them I had already bead blasted the heads and finished porting them so they're going to remove and replace the springs, new valve seals, possibly new guides, deck the surfaces, and of course clean the parts and inside of the heads. Plus, they said that they mark each stem, spring, retainer, etc so they all go back in as they came out. I guess I'll sleep better at night now.

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Old 05-03-2005, 10:51 AM   #11
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I had already bead blasted the heads and finished porting them...I guess I'll sleep better at night now.

Thanks for the info.

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Bead blasted where? No machined surfaces, I hope.

P.S. Don't even think about the socket/hammer trick without eye protection for everyone in the vicinity....and do not reuse the locks.
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:07 AM   #12
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Actually, it was blasted with a polishing sand. I tend to use 'bead blast' generically The machine shop said that the surfaces looked to be in great condition. Just to clarify, I did NOT touch the inside of the heads, i.e, the actual cam journals or any where near that area. I'll through up some pics when I get them back.

On the spring removal, the shop did that and will be putting them back together. I'm not sure about the locks though. I told them just to order what they thought was necessary. They've got 29k miles so they're in good shape already.
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I'm not sure about the locks though. I told them just to order what they thought was necessary. They've got 29k miles so they're in good shape already.
ALWAYS replace the locks. It's cheap insurance, considering the damage done to your engine if one lets go. I'm hopeful your machine shop knows this, but I never assume anything.
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Old 05-04-2005, 12:15 PM   #14
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They're ordering the other valve hardware from a supplier called SPI or something similar. I'll call them to make certain that they're replaced. Hopefully these are every bit as good as OEM components?
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