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Old 05-02-2005, 10:20 AM   #1
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Rte 84 westbound in Danbury CT (exit 2) was closed down most of the afternoon and night this past Friday. Reason for the closure

Reckless Driving

This guy definitely has a few things to think about, let alone the $500K for bail.

Oh, and I am not sure if its a typo on the 4 year old (didn't think they were allowed to give out names for minors), but if it isn't, this guy is even more stupid than I would have originally given him credit for.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:37 AM   #2
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"Damn cops have nothing better to do but hassle us for speeding. Go after some real criminals like child molesters and wife beaters."



This is why we enforce traffic laws, folks. If you're afraid to go 15mph over for fear of a ticket, then this crap is less likely to happen.

*zzzzzzzzzzzziip* Flamesuit on.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:41 AM   #3
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^^^^

To be honest, I think this might have been a more egregrious violation than most traffic offenses. Not flaming you here, but if this guy was racing on a publick highway without even a license, I doubt he was worried about a 15mph over ticket.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:42 AM   #4
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"According to a police report, none of the occupants of either vehicle was wearing a seat belt."

No offense... but they're idiots.

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Old 05-02-2005, 10:43 AM   #5
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"Damn cops have nothing better to do but hassle us for speeding. Go after some real criminals like child molesters and wife beaters."
*zzzzzzzzzzzziip* Flamesuit on.
where was that comment in the article?

the guy was driving like a tool and now he got busted. its just unfortunate some innocent person had to loose their life because of his actions.

throw away the key i say.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:51 AM   #6
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One more comment....

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Wheeler was driving in the westbound left lane near Exit 2 when he moved over for two vehicles approaching at a high rate of speed, police said.

When Wheeler turned into the center lane, so did the other two vehicles, police said
(Monday morning QB here...)

Why were they in the left lane when the right lane was clear? It's called cruising in the left lane (Left Lane Blocking) and if there was more awareness that it's unsafe and illegal... I would venture an educated guess that the High Speed lane was going to be open and it wouldn't have happened. Cars travelling at high rates of speed cannot change lanes as quick as slower moving vehicles... they need more real estate to initiate the turn-in to the next lane.... so for the fast cars to try changing lanes at a high rate of speed, the center lane must have been clear... WAYY back there.... AND the speeders had a clear view that the center lane was clear to maintain that speed. I'm not defending the actions of these idiots.... but I ABHOR Left Lane Blockers/Squatters.

Again... It's sad that something like this happened. Tragic. Could it have been avoided? On many more levels than just saying there were cars speeding.

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Old 05-02-2005, 10:55 AM   #7
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"According to a police report, none of the occupants of either vehicle was wearing a seat belt."

No offense... but they're idiots.

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How does this still happen? They buy an SUV probably to feel safe, then don't bother to wear their seatbelts? Very sad. Hopefully there are enough witnesses to nail the dumbass in the rsx.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:55 AM   #8
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With the amount of hotheads out road racing nowadays, im surprised there are not more accidents like this. So sad that someone lost their life, If I were the husband Id be hunting that kid down to take car of things myself

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Old 05-02-2005, 11:00 AM   #9
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With the amount of hotheads out roadracing nowadays, im suprized there are not more accidents like this. So sad that someone lossed thier life, If I were the husband Id be hunting that kid down to take car of things myself.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:27 AM   #10
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wow, this is really really sad...i just don't understand the need of people to drive like asshats and put theirs, and others, lives in danger...

on a related note, i am now glad that i diverted onto 7 south when I came across this back-up on my drive down to PA on Friday night. I couldn't find a traffic update so I decided to just hop on 7 where it splits in Danbury and take the Merritt to 287 instead of waiting in the traffic to try and take 84 to 87 (my normal route)...looks like i may have saved myself some time by diverting and taking the 'scenic' route (the Merritt is more fun to drive anyway )...
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:14 PM   #11
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Why were they in the left lane when the right lane was clear? It's called cruising in the left lane (Left Lane Blocking) and if there was more awareness that it's unsafe and illegal... I would venture an educated guess that the High Speed lane was going to be open and it wouldn't have happened. Cars travelling at high rates of speed cannot change lanes as quick as slower moving vehicles... they need more real estate to initiate the turn-in to the next lane.... so for the fast cars to try changing lanes at a high rate of speed, the center lane must have been clear... WAYY back there.... AND the speeders had a clear view that the center lane was clear to maintain that speed. I'm not defending the actions of these idiots.... but I ABHOR Left Lane Blockers/Squatters
I feel the same way. The SUV was violating the law by lingering in the passing lane. I wish more people were aware of that law. I'm on a bit of a crusade. At the newspaper, when I don't have enough text to fill a page, I run a homemade ad that says, "Please don't linger in the passing lane." I'm thinking that message could be developed into company-wide public service ads, like the motorcycle safety ads we ran a couple years ago.

At least there's a happy ending, with the dog being found.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:32 PM   #12
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Plenty of people who don't drive fast, but drive carelessly cause plenty of wrecks that are not reported. There are also plenty of people who drive fast that do not cause any problems for anyone.

However, it makes for good soap opera and hence, good press when you run a story about a bad evil speeder wrecking in traffic with a heartwarming ending of a dog being found. Hundreds of accidents happen every day, at slow speeds and fast speeds, because people are just stupid and careless.

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This is why we enforce traffic laws, folks. If you're afraid to go 15mph over for fear of a ticket, then this crap is less likely to happen.
Nonsense. Even if everyone goes 15mph below the speed limit, this type of crap WILL happen. Speed is only one factor in this crap happening.

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Old 05-02-2005, 01:25 PM   #13
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Why were they in the left lane when the right lane was clear? It's called cruising in the left lane (Left Lane Blocking) and if there was more awareness that it's unsafe and illegal...
Just wanted to mention that Rte. 84 in CT does have a couple of left-side exits. I don't recall which number they are, though.


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This is why we enforce traffic laws, folks. If you're afraid to go 15mph over for fear of a ticket, then this crap is less likely to happen.
You're joking, right? The average traffic flow on 84 is easily 10mph over the posted limit. I'm not suggesting that going 100+ is a great idea, but realistic limits might be nice.

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Old 05-02-2005, 01:38 PM   #14
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I feel the same way. The SUV was violating the law by lingering in the passing lane. I wish more people were aware of that law.
You're making a big assumption, unless there is evidence I'm not aware of. Driving in the left lane while moving faster than the center lane is not violating this law, and unless you know otherwise may well have been the case. IMO this law is not intended to keep you out of the left lane if a short (slower) gap opens in the middle lane, especially given the amount of volume during afternoon commute.

And as Brian mentioned there are left exits in the Danbury area, I believe this occured soon after the rt 7 merge so slower traffic may have been joining into the fast lanes.
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:03 PM   #15
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You're making a big assumption, unless there is evidence I'm not aware of. Driving in the left lane while moving faster than the center lane is not violating this law, and unless you know otherwise may well have been the case. IMO this law is not intended to keep you out of the left lane if a short (slower) gap opens in the middle lane, especially given the amount of volume during afternoon commute.

And as Brian mentioned there are left exits in the Danbury area, I believe this occured soon after the rt 7 merge so slower traffic may have been joining into the fast lanes.
I'm the one that drew the conclusion that it was open ro the right of the SUV.

Coming up from a distance behind someone, you can see if the lane to the right of the LLB is clear to make the pass on the right cleanly. I *feel* that it was open or the pass wouldn't have been attempted to the right of the SUV... and if not, the 'speeders' most likely would have just simply braked, and waited... (one would hope anyways)

At speeds in excess of 100, you need to start the lane change a good distance behind the guy you're going to pass. I feel that article made it seem like this guy was 'getting out of the way'... but he just did it too late... the speeders were already over in that lane.

That's why I'm of the opinion, this guy was squatting in the left lane when he should have been in the lane to the right of it leaving the HS lane open.

When you can see the headlights of the car you passed in your rearview mirror, it's clear to move to the right... that's usually 2-3 car lenghts. Is that enough room to make a lane change at 100? To see around the car that was in the center lane that the SUV Passed? I say no it isn't. The car in the center lane would have been blocking the view of the center lane and the pass wouldn't have happened... (Again... all my opinion). IF the SUV had just completed a pass and was moving over, the cars doing 100 wouldn't have had enough distance and time to make ANY maneuver to move over the center lane.

Again, I'm not justifying anyones actions in this event. The facts are there was some speed involved in the accident. I'm just not ready to absolve the driver that got hit from 100% of the blame due to what I perceive the situation to have been from reading this one article. I wasn't there, I didn't see it happen. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. I'm just stating one possible scenario drawing from my own personal experieinces driving in New England... LLBs don't know what they're doing is illegal... and when they decide that they need to move, it's too late.

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One more comment....



(Monday morning QB here...)

Why were they in the left lane when the right lane was clear? It's called cruising in the left lane (Left Lane Blocking) and if there was more awareness that it's unsafe and illegal... I would venture an educated guess that the High Speed lane was going to be open and it wouldn't have happened. Cars travelling at high rates of speed cannot change lanes as quick as slower moving vehicles... they need more real estate to initiate the turn-in to the next lane.... so for the fast cars to try changing lanes at a high rate of speed, the center lane must have been clear... WAYY back there.... AND the speeders had a clear view that the center lane was clear to maintain that speed. I'm not defending the actions of these idiots.... but I ABHOR Left Lane Blockers/Squatters.

Again... It's sad that something like this happened. Tragic. Could it have been avoided? On many more levels than just saying there were cars speeding.

--kC
kC,

I totally disagree with you here because you are Monday morning quarterbacking. You have no idea what happened. It's possible this Wheeler guy passed someone, looked in his rearview and saw the ID10T's coming at a high rate of speed and tried to get out of the way by moving right.

I'm not saying your wrong and I'm right. I am saying that I hate left lane blockers and squatters also but to bring up any point in the ID10T's favor isn't fair or right. They screwed up big time and now I hope they pay the price. Glad the dog was okay, not much consolation.....
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What a thoughtless jerk...

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What a thoughtless jerk...

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Never mind.....

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Sorry. I never consider people think my comments were directed at the last poster. In this case they deffinately were not.

I was not talking about you at all.

and i figured dickhead was a bit much.

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Sorry. I never consider people think my comments were directed at the last poster. In this case they deffinately were not.

I was not talking about you at all.

and i figured dickhead was a bit much.

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Geez, you had me going there Sitting there thinking now what did I put in there that was thoughtless and being a jerk. I'll amend my post accordingly. Sorry...
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:35 PM   #21
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I was not talking about you at all.
So.. don't leave us in suspense... WHO are you talking about here calling them a dickhead or thoughtless jerk?

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*Tuned runs for popcorn as the suspense builds
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*Tuned runs for popcorn as the suspense builds
*sits down next to Tuned, with 2 cokes (for me and Tuned)

*hates left lne squatters as well and personally is glad to have one less butthole in an SUV blocking the flow of traffic because they think they deserve it. No, they didnt deserve to die. But I cant say I feel much compassion. Had they not been breaking the law improperly using that lane they would be alive today. 2 People disobeying traffic laws. One much worse than the other, but they were both in the wrong (again, not nearly the same thing but its still a fact)
That said, I hope they roast that kid in teh RSX's nuts. Twice. Then death penalty.

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So.. don't leave us in suspense... WHO are you talking about here calling them a dickhead or thoughtless jerk?

--kC
Come on now, its fairly obvious he wasnt talking about you.





























He would have said OLD thoughtless jerk
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*hates left lne squatters as well and personally is glad to have one less butthole in an SUV blocking the flow of traffic because they think they deserve it.
That said, I hope they roast that kid in teh RSX's nuts. Twice. Then death penalty.
*Tuned passes the popcorn to Davenow and watches coming attractions...
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