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Old 05-04-2005, 05:11 PM   #26
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ok, im still confused at the first post. the 2.5 rs that your friend had, wsa it a full STi V8 swap, or did he just put a block in the rs and turbo it?? there are things that say it is both in here, we need to know this first.
Here is my guess.

He is doing an AWD manual swap first. Get that running and then do an STI swap from his buddies car?

I'm guessing because I'm about as lost as you are. I want his drivetrain though, the V8 that is...
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Old 05-04-2005, 06:48 PM   #27
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God, I feel like I am talking to a rock. You don't need a new ECU. You short two wires to get it to work. It takes two seconds.


Buy your buddies tranny - put on the RS brakes get 16" wheels on the and giver. 14" wheels are stupid. Sell them. It's also improtant taht you install the RS struts.


After all, if you can lock your brakes then it's your tires that you need to upgrade.

yeah only sort of. they got hot and they will. I fade my brighton brakes EVERYDAY on the way to work - cause I am giviner

No wonder you want a new ECU. Sounds like with that nursing degree all you can think of is the ECU. Get new brakes and don't end up in the ECU.

get the starter with the tranny. you need the tranny pieces that mount the tranny to the frame.
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:56 PM   #28
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Forgive me, this rock has no idea the difference between a resistor and a transistor. What then, do I need to do to my ECU to make it work?

My buddy bought a 2.5RS, he put a turbo on it. He didn't intercool it and ended up blowing one of the pistons. Then he bought a V8 STI block for it (which is not for sale!). He turbo and intercooled that but shortly after he bought it, the car was wrecked. Now he is selling it to me.

As far as the rims go, I only have about $550 dollars left to spend on this. $300 is what he will sell me the tranny for and I might need to buy the ACT clutch for 100 if he can't find the stock one. That leaves me with 150-250 dollars to spend on whatever else. How much would it cost me to get RS rims with rubber?

I think that I have all of the tranny peices but someone definitly told me that I would need the crossmember, I'm assuming that I don't?
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:28 PM   #29
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I don't see the big discount on the $4500? You could get a complete JDM clip for that or just a little more.
Since you don't have the money, just buy the tranny pieces to keep your car moving. Save your money and come back to the swap idea once you have $8k saved and ready to burn.
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:36 PM   #30
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You will be nuts if you dont buy those parts for $4500



But ya, all of those issues with the starter, awd conversion, and ECU are true. The part that isnt true is that the 5-speed WONT help the 1.8. A manual 1.8 is as fast as an auto 2.2, so thats at least worth it... Finding a manual ECU for a 1.8 shouldnt be TOO hard with all the swaps people are doing into older imprezas now, and find a used starter too and it should make it more worth while.

The wiring part... Ill let someone else answer Im not big on wiring too
He absolutly right
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Old 05-05-2005, 08:34 PM   #31
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4500, and the packege makes 340hp.
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:04 PM   #32
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This is not a good swap for someone with limited funds. Things break. It's not a fool proof set up by any means. There are always little electrical things to chase down.
I remain unimpressed by the 340hp out an unknown set up that was created from previously failed motors and crash victims. YMMV.
If you had lots of funds to sort out all the little issues and cover big failures and had another means of transport I would say go for it.
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Old 05-06-2005, 03:00 AM   #33
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Your post has been noted, thank you.
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Old 05-06-2005, 09:59 AM   #34
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I don't see the big discount on the $4500? You could get a complete JDM clip for that or just a little more.
Since you don't have the money, just buy the tranny pieces to keep your car moving. Save your money and come back to the swap idea once you have $8k saved and ready to burn.
Mind telling me where you get can get a V8 clip for 4500. I know a lot of people including me would LOVE to know
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Old 05-06-2005, 12:31 PM   #35
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I didn't say version 8 clip for $4500. Please read again. He is not getting that either. He is looking at a V8 short block and a bunch of RS parts, aftermarket ecu and injectors, etc.
A complete V3-v6 clip would be a more reliable better set up. IMHO. It would come with a better tranny, better heads, possibly DCCD, possibly suspension/brake goodies, better diffs, etc.
There is a bias around here that only V7-V9 clips are any good. The earlier clips can be very good especially if you are trying to make 300hp for $1000s less in cost. They are a good match to older shells like a MY94.
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Old 05-16-2005, 11:56 AM   #36
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OK, I'm going to start this conversion this week and want to gather any comments from anyone about this. This is my checklist. The first couple are there because I did a bit of a hack job on the gas tank and want to fix it.

1. Get the car up and the wheels off.
2. take down the rear crossmember and lower the gas tank.
3. "Fix" the wiring.
4. Replace the gas tank and crossmember.
(From here on tell me if you think the order of things will be fine.)
5. Take out the old springs and struts and replace them with the RS ones.
6. Replace the hubs from the RS to my brakes and install SS brake lines. (No matter what I do, I won't be able to afford bigger rims to accomodate the bigger brakes. I will fix this in a few weeks)
7. Unscrew the whole center console and disassemble as much as I can.
8. Take off the CV axles
9. Take out my transmission and make a coffee table out of it. (I will follow the manual for this, I know that it is harder than I am setting myself up for.)
9A. Take off flywheel and put on new one.
9B. Install clutch.
10. Install the new tranny and the short throw shifter.
11. Install the driveshaft to the tranny side.
12. Attach the driveshaft to the diff side and bolt that into place.
13. Rebuild the rear halfshafts because I took them apart to acoomodate the rear disk brakes that I put in.
14. Install the rear halfshafts.
15. Buy a starter for a 2.5 RS and put that in.
16. As far as I understand I need to either snip a wire on my ECU or splice two together, but my friend knows and will help me.
17. Attach the clutch pedal to the tranny. (It's already in the car) (By the way, what is the part called that pushes the clutch fork?)
18. Reassemble the center console.
19. Wheels and tires then drop the car. Vroom.
20. Check engine light comes on.


Now all of this is assuming that I have all of the mounting hardware to do this. If I don't then I could just get it at a junk yard.

Now, I know that I have asked, but will I need the crossmember from the 2.5 or not? I have one but it takes a lot of space in my garage.

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Old 05-17-2005, 03:29 AM   #37
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Old 05-20-2005, 03:10 PM   #38
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Can anyone offer any suggestions?
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Old 07-16-2005, 03:32 AM   #39
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Well, I've gotten to step seven just today. My life has been hell for the last few MONTHS!!! Anywho, I decided to not buy any of the stuff yet and bought myself a compressor and a set of air tools. With it, I can assemble an FZR in one day. (For sale by the way). I have also bought the tranny, and the rear diff. I just got an open diff because the LSD was too expensive. Now I am a little bit worried that the axles are different on the LSD's than the open's. Can anyone help? I will post more tommorrow.
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Old 07-16-2005, 04:21 PM   #40
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I'm still waiting for the diff today. I might have run into a bump. Do you guys know if an open diff will work with LSD axles?
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Old 07-17-2005, 05:27 AM   #41
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I just got in the rear diff. I should start work on tuesday.
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:05 PM   #42
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Well, today I went shopping for supplies. Basic shop towels and drain pans. However, I quickley realized that I don't have the bolts for the rear Diff. Can I just go buy some at a hardware store, or are they "special".
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:15 PM   #43
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they are studs

IIRC they have a very course thread into the diff (m12x.5??-really guessing)and m12x1.5?? on the other end
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:54 AM   #44
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Well, the tranny is in and along with it I put in an ACT clutch and lightweight flywheel. Tomorrow I will put in the rear diff and the rest of the gobble-de-gook. Does anyone know the size of the rear tranny mounts? I have two bolts that I found laying around in there but need more. I'm willing to buy.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:16 PM   #45
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refresh me are you starting from a FWD car
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Yes, read the first post.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:49 PM   #47
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Oh yea, I took you guys's advice and bought some rims.
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Old 08-12-2005, 11:39 AM   #48
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2. take down the rear crossmember and lower the gas tank.
- youll have to swap over teh whole rear end bits, gas tank, crossmember, control arms, K member, rear suspension etc.

6. Replace the hubs from the RS to my brakes and install SS brake lines.
- front GC8 knuckles are all the same. ALL fwd and AWD front knuckles are identical - EVEN JDM STi

15. Buy a starter for a 2.5 RS and put that in.

- ALL manual subaru starters are the same. even FWD. If you want one, ive got one for $20 for sale.


17. Attach the clutch pedal to the tranny. (It's already in the car) (By the way, what is the part called that pushes the clutch fork?)
-- you'll need to install the entire hydro clutch system, pedal, master cylinder, slave, lines etc.

20. Check engine light comes on.
-- not for sure.
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Took me a sec to figure out what you were talking about. You look like the only one who replied to my question about my checklist. Thanks, but I am already past all of these steps. Except for the check engine light.
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word. sorry i didnt come sooner, i was on hiatus from nasioc untill my recent stupid slow car conversion
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