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Old 05-05-2005, 12:26 AM   #1
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An acquaintance of mine was interested in having my 2000 RS coupe turned into a replica of Bunta's WRX from Initial D. A few months ago he backed out on me, but I've decided to carry the torch regardless. I'll revive my old thread shortly, I plan to keep the discussion there limited to accurately recreating Bunta's vehicle. This thread will be used to discuss the Type R Version 5 conversion.

I'm still in the planning stage, but there's already allot I'd like to talk about.

First off, I've decided to sell my current RS. After consulting with the body shops in my area I concluded that it's far more cost effective to start with a car that's already the proper color. Since I'm converting to a Version 5 I figured I might as well look for a 98. Though, after further consideration, I'm not sure that's the best way to go.

I plan on the conversion being as complete and accurate as possible, that means no sunroof. Would I be better off starting with an L? Also, I don't want the car to have problems passing emissions. Would I be better off going with a 95? I'd greatly appreciate everyone's thoughts on this.
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:19 AM   #2
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yes your probbaly better starting off with an 95 L coupe the bumper+cheep paint will be less than an RS
i saw one the other day on ebay for $1000 [buy it now] it was in OK other wise i would have bought it
plus no obd-2 emmissions
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Old 05-05-2005, 01:00 PM   #3
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If colour is the first criteria, you can only get WRB on 98/99 RSs. Blue Ridge Pearl on RS in 00 - 01. The L's have other blues. My 97 is Mystic Blue which is lighter and slightly greener. Some L's have sunroofs pre-97. There are some weird greens in earlier years and not many dark blues. I think you will find it easier to paint the car that to find a rust free/crash free shell in the colour you want.
For emissions, do your research of your state laws. You may need to keep OBD-II, which will limit your options. A 95 would have less wiring probably, but it will also have few power accessories etc.
I thought V5 was MY99?
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Old 05-05-2005, 01:37 PM   #4
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you can only get WRB on 98/99 RSs. Blue Ridge Pearl on RS in 00 - 01.
You might wanna check your facts on the WRB on 98/99. What you posted is incorrect.

If you want a true replica. Are you going RHD?

If your going to do it right. Buy v5 front clip and then you will have everything to do a complete swap. You will need to cut holes in the firewall iirc to make the RHD swap complete.

If your just doing cosmetic yet LHD

Start with a 1993-1995 Brighton L shell. Get rust/dents all fixed. Get the right bumpers, sideskirts, wings, lips and hood and scoops combo also painted at this point. Then you can swap in the motor not have to worry about OBD-2 compliance and have it done pretty close to your goal while being light and type R like.
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:35 PM   #5
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You might wanna check your facts on the WRB on 98/99. What you posted is incorrect.

uh no its not?? care to expalin why you thin it is?
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:41 PM   #6
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Rally Blue Pearl for 99s
Blue Ridge Pearl for 00-01
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Old 05-05-2005, 02:45 PM   #7
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Rally Blue Pearl for 99s
Blue Ridge Pearl for 00-01
Actually for 98's & 99's, but yes, this is correct.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:36 PM   #8
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im not sure that the anime's bunta car is the world rally color. they have like 3 diff. colors overseas that look nearly the same. but who knows.
heres a pic of one that looks like oyu want it to, courtesy of someone in england:
http://img172.echo.cx/my.php?image=s...cbumper5xc.png
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:15 PM   #9
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the 98 and 99 were differnt colors but both were called world rally blue ..
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:30 PM   #10
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Wait, isn't the REAL Bunta car Steel Blue Mica, which is actually owned by the Initial D author, as seen here :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/09...hishigeno2.jpg
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:42 PM   #11
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Wait, isn't the REAL Bunta car Steel Blue Mica, which is actually owned by the Initial D author, as seen here :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/09...hishigeno2.jpg
Yes you're right but they changed it to world rally blue in the show because they wanted people to know the car right aways instead of thinking about what car it is. Plus initial d first started of as a comic and it was printed in grayscale. So in a way the true original Bunta WRX is Steel Blue Mica which looks pretty nice.
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Old 05-05-2005, 05:20 PM   #12
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the 98 and 99 were differnt colors but both were called world rally blue ..
Can you show me documentation for the USDM RS that proves this?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...999+2.5rs+blue

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...999+2.5rs+blue

And last but not least.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...999+2.5rs+blue

scroll down to scoobygal
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Old 05-05-2005, 05:34 PM   #13
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the 98 and 99 were differnt colors but both were called world rally blue ..
No, you're wrong. Ref this page for 98's color, which was the same as 99's color.
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:47 PM   #14
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I have only found one place for that 22B front an it'll cost you. Actually two places and both will cost you. I just read your other thread and noticed that Rallispec could get the front for you, that price is about right.

The true Typr R V5 front looks like this:



Also my L knowledge isn't very good, but did they make 2 door Ls?

And of course the 22B:


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Old 05-05-2005, 10:18 PM   #15
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Yes there are 2 door L, IIRC started around 1995 in NA. My point about the colour is that Ls and dark blue is not something that you are likely to find. Toss coupe into the equation and it may not even exist. It would be much easier to mix up the colour you want and spray it on.
Steel mica blue is my favourite.
I would say any 7+ year old car is going to need a respray, especially an Impreza. You also have shave the door bump strips. So paint doors, bumpers, wing, skirts, lip, grill, hood scoop, vents, mirrors, door handles...easier to start with an RS and paint it. You can alway remove the sunroof, weld up the hole an swap in an L headliner.
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Old 05-05-2005, 11:52 PM   #16
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i don't see where that link shows any difference but the 98 rally blue is differnt than the 99 rally blue
i have seen them side by side
FWIW the prodrive color for the early cars was sonic blue not world rally blue
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Old 05-06-2005, 04:30 AM   #17
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yup^ sonic blue is the shizzle..... i mean, its my favorite blue....
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Old 05-06-2005, 08:17 AM   #18
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Thanks for the info about the 2 door L. Are you going to add any chassis support? I ask because the 4 door cars are more rigid than the 2 door version.
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Old 05-06-2005, 08:07 PM   #19
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So the true color is steel blue mica?
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Old 05-07-2005, 04:54 PM   #20
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the true color from the manga, but the anime is blue
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Old 05-07-2005, 06:20 PM   #21
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Thanks for the info about the 2 door L. Are you going to add any chassis support? I ask because the 4 door cars are more rigid than the 2 door version.
SAY WHAT where did you hear that? Thats like saying a convertible is more rigid then a sedan.
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:40 PM   #22
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Wow, I'm glad to see that so many of you have interest in the project.

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I think you will find it easier to paint the car [then] to find a rust free/crash free shell in the colour you want.
I don't expect to find, nor am I looking for, a rust free, undamaged donor car. I was just considering looking for a car that left the factory painted the proper color. The difference in price between having a vehicle re-sprayed it's original color and changing it's color (if done right) can be a few thousand dollars or more.

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I thought V5 was MY99?
The web sites I referenced had the release year for the Version 5 listed as 1998. With that in mind, I figured the USDM model that it would be the most similar to would be the 98 RS Coupe. Am I wrong? It wouldn't be the first time.

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If you want a true replica. Are you going RHD? ... Buy v5 front clip and then you will have everything to do a complete swap. You will need to cut holes in the firewall ...
Yes, I'm definitely going RHD. I want the car to be an exact replica of Bunta's. I've already began the search for a Type R Version 5 clip, but I've yet to find one. Are there any US importers or Japanese exporters you'd recommend I check with? Instead of cutting holes in the existing firewall my plan is to have it swapped out.

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The 98 and 99 were different colors but both were called world rally blue.
Actually the 98's color was called "Rally Blue Pearl", at least it was in America. My goal is to match the color used in the anime, which I thought was World Rally Blue, but I'm not so sure now. According to this chart (thanks DoctorNick) the only shades of blue that were available overseas in 98 and 99 were "Sonic Blue" and "Deep Blue Mica". Can anyone confirm this?

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Are you going to add any chassis support? I ask because the 4 door cars are more rigid than the 2 door version.
I'm not really sure how factual that comment is and I'm not all that concerned with reinforcing the chassis (As far as I know the USDM coupes shared the same body as the Version 5.), but yes I do plan to add some measure of chassis support.

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So the true color is steel blue mica?
The writer's (Shuichi Shigeno) Impreza, which he based Bunta's on, is Steel Blue Mica. So, in that sense, yes it's the "true" color. To the best of my knowledge Bunta's Impreza was never featured on the cover of the manga, nor was the color ever discussed within it's pages. The video games by SEGA have the car painted a grayish hue that could very well be their representation of Steel Blue Mica.

In the anime, the general consensus is that Bunta's WRX is painted World Rally Blue, though I'm still looking to confirm this. I really like Steel Blue Mica, but I'm trying to stay as true to the anime as possible.
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:51 PM   #23
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Anybody have a good snapshot of close up or the paint code for Steel Blue Mica? Going to get my wagon painted that color
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Just to clarify i think Japan years are different than US years. In which case their '98 is our '99. So a v5 is in fact both. At least i know this is the case with the newer GD cars...not 100% sure it's the case with the GC cars.
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The web sites I referenced had the release year for the Version 5 listed as 1998. With that in mind, I figured the USDM model that it would be the most similar to would be the 98 RS Coupe. Am I wrong? It wouldn't be the first time.

According to this chart (thanks DoctorNick) the only shades of blue that were available overseas in 98 and 99 were "Sonic Blue" and "Deep Blue Mica". Can anyone confirm this?
the way that Subaru lables their cars years in japan is odd. they sell them as the time they hit the market; not like us here, where we sell cars that are ahead of thier model year (ie: a 2004 WRX in mid-late 2003).
this gives the cars split model years. a version 4 is from 9/97 to 8/98, and a version 5 is from 9/98 to 8/99. each version can have either year that they were sold in, they are the same, its just what they called it.
in reality, the car you would be looking for to relate to the same year as the version 5 is a 2000, as we are a year behind japan. however, the year of th car for the swap does not matter, it pretty much says what wiring diagrams you need to use.

yes, those 2 colors were the only ones availible in europe, and most likley japan as well.
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