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Old 05-05-2005, 10:21 AM   #1
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Default why are tokico struts not as popular as kyb

I'm looking to get springs and struts for my 03 wagon. I see a lot of good reviews for agx and sti takeoffs. Not many but the reviews of the Tokicos are good but they don't seem too popular. Why?
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Old 05-05-2005, 10:26 AM   #2
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No idea, I ran tokico adjustables on my VW and I loved them. Dirct cheap (comparatively) and handled very well.
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Old 05-05-2005, 12:37 PM   #3
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KYBs AGXs have been around since at least since before 2001 for the GC* platform and then after a 2 year delay they finally showed up for the GD* platform. So basically, they've been around for Subarus quite a bit longer and folks have been quite used to them and like them. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with the Tokicos other than their Subaru availability has only come as of the past 12 months perhaps.

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Old 05-05-2005, 01:23 PM   #4
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KYB is the OEM supplier of Subie struts. Call it comfort level.
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The late D-Spec Tokico struts have gotten great reviews. The only thing is that they're usually $200-300 more than a set of KYB AGX struts.
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Old 05-05-2005, 01:31 PM   #6
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The late D-Spec Tokico struts have gotten great reviews. The only thing is that they're usually $200-300 more than a set of KYB AGX struts.
For $100 over the AGXs you can snag some Konis typically. I'd rock those long before the Tokicos...but to each their own.
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Old 05-05-2005, 05:16 PM   #7
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For $100 over the AGXs you can snag some Konis typically. I'd rock those long before the Tokicos...but to each their own.

^ arent konis more expensive than the d-specs. Also, whats the washer deeal about? Does anyone manufacture a strut for sti's that dont need washers to fit properly (dont mean to hi-jack your thread bro.) Thanks
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:46 PM   #8
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whats the washer deal about? Does anyone manufacture a strut for sti's that dont need washers to fit properly
Subaru changed the rear spring/strut top design in 04. Older style struts and the newer style strut tops don't mate perfectly. There's a little play even when the net is tightened completely. The washer is to take up the play. The only 04 style struts are OE Subaru. Use those and no washer needed. Aftermarket strut makers (Koni, KYB, Tokiko) have not developed an 04 style offering. No word on when or if that will happen.
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^ thanks that explains that. Do the majority of coilovers available for 04+ need the washers as well, or are they just bolt and drive? Thanks again.
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Most (all?) coilovers come with camber plates so you don't need to reuse the OEM tophats. They just bolt right in.
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