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Old 05-16-2005, 10:01 PM   #1
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I'm looking to buy a harness bar later this summer and I was wondering if the passenger side seatbelt will still work with the harness bar or if i have to remove it and replace it with a harness? thanks.

cliff note: do i have to remove the stock pass seat belt?
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Old 05-16-2005, 10:02 PM   #2
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All the stock seat belts will still work, but you do have to remove them and reinstall them once to install the bar.

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Old 05-16-2005, 10:04 PM   #3
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sounds good, thanks.
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Old 05-17-2005, 12:21 AM   #4
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I just installed a sparco harness bar and i was able to keep my stock seat belts.
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Old 05-17-2005, 10:33 AM   #5
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you should try and sit in a car with a harness bar before you install one. I'm only 5'10" but after sitting in Colin's WRX there is no way I could have one in my daily driver. just an FYI...
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Old 05-17-2005, 10:59 AM   #6
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you should try and sit in a car with a harness bar before you install one. I'm only 5'10" but after sitting in Colin's WRX there is no way I could have one in my daily driver. just an FYI...
It does shorten up seat travel and limit seat back placement, but I'm 6' and I have no problem with it. My dad is 6'2" and also fits just fine.

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Old 05-17-2005, 11:16 AM   #7
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You paying the 399 for this bar?

Or did you find somewhere cheaper?

I think 400 bucks for just the bar is a complete freakin rip off.
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Old 05-17-2005, 11:43 AM   #8
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Was an engineer for a company that made harness bars for a while. Made a prototype for a wrx....total cost for us to make...about $50 and that includes labor...
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Old 05-17-2005, 11:44 AM   #9
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Exactly...

W T F is that all about? 400 bucks?

Come on. Please if someone has a link for something affordable...please let me know. I don't need the sparco name.

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Old 05-17-2005, 12:49 PM   #10
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It does shorten up seat travel and limit seat back placement, but I'm 6' and I have no problem with it. My dad is 6'2" and also fits just fine.

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that's why I posted. It really supprised me that I couldn't get the seat in my normal driving position. and no, I don't get mah gangsta lean on. I really wanted a bar for track days too...
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Old 05-17-2005, 12:58 PM   #11
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that's why I posted. It really supprised me that I couldn't get the seat in my normal driving position. and no, I don't get mah gangsta lean on. I really wanted a bar for track days too...
You must be one of those types with longer legs than body.

Sure it's a little tight, but I only had to move my seat up like one or two notches from where I usually run it, and the seat back just a couple notches too. Now my dad, he's a little more annoyed at it since he does like a pimp-lean type of ride. But he fits in with the bar no problem. Really it's all personal taste. I prefer an upright in the dash ride because that's actually the way it's supposed to be for racing.

You could always put it in and take it out.

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Old 05-17-2005, 10:19 PM   #12
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I'm 6' but I like to sit somewhat close to the wheel. I've got the Sparco bar and it works out great. One of my friends said it felt like a roller coaster from the back seat, which is still usable. Just watch your knees when you get in. I've had a 6'3" guy in the back with no problem.

And I kept my stock belts in front.
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Old 05-18-2005, 12:43 PM   #13
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Paying $400 for the Sparco bar is assinine !!!
I am getting 2 harness bars custom built for my WRX and powdercoated for a steal !!!
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Paying $400 for the Sparco bar is assinine !!!
I am getting 2 harness bars custom built for my WRX and powdercoated for a steal !!!
Mind spilling the beans where?

LOL. Buddy of mine has some Deits (sp) racing harnesses he wants to get rid of.
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Old 05-18-2005, 01:34 PM   #15
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I would want to get a harness bar, but I would be worried about passengers smacking their head on it during a hard stop/crash. Also how easy would it be to install?
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Old 05-18-2005, 01:41 PM   #16
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They shouldn't be smacking their head on the bar. The bar is behind the driver and passenger seats.
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Old 05-18-2005, 01:59 PM   #17
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The people probably would not hit there head if they had a seat belt on but you can always pad the bar if you wanted
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Old 05-18-2005, 02:07 PM   #18
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i have sparco pro2000s with the haress bar and it works great, im 6'1 with no issuess either. i bought mine used thou , i wouldnt pay 400 for it
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Quick question, I absolutely have to have the seat back all the way to drive and leaned back a click or two, only way I fit, is this possible with the harness bar installed? Wondering for the STi. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated, thx.
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na, its only like 3 or 4 inches from the back of the piller, so if ur seat needs to go 2 inches past the piller , dont buy it, or buy sparco buckets so ur seat is only an inch thick instead of the OEM seats which are like 3ish
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If you get a harness bar installed, you should not let people sit in the back seat.

The padding is not likely to help. If it's rollbar padding it's meant for helmets not bare heads.

But as with any safety related issue you should search and come to your own conclusions.
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:18 AM   #22
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Was an engineer for a company that made harness bars for a while. Made a prototype for a wrx....total cost for us to make...about $50 and that includes labor...

Well then have them make some and sell them for $100 and still make $
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:34 AM   #23
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wow, didn't realize this thread was still going.

i wanted the harness bar so that my rear seats would still be functional, and so i could have the seats folded down with the harness in use. i don't sit that far back, i like to have the gear shift in good reach. i was planning on getting it from rallysportdirect, for about 400, but if i find one cheaper, i'm goin that route. thanks for all the info!
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:03 AM   #24
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The problem is the down tubes. They hit the bottom corner of most adjustable seats including Sparce themselved. This with shells like Corsa's or EVO's have no problem as the base is thin due to the lack of adjustment. Those seats can go way the hell back as they clear the down tube.

If you order Sparco seats like Torinos, like I did, you can get low and high mounting rails. The high or normal mounting rails allow the seat to go back another 1-2 inches. That is a big deal. I got the low pro rails and added a 1/2 spacer. As long as the spacer is the length of the runners and you use grade 8 hardware, a spacer is fine.

Remember the passanger space is several inches shorter due to the ECU. My driver side is fine now and I am exactly 6". With out the spacer it was a touch to short in the leg dept. Now it is fine. When I then go to the passanger side, not nearly enough leg room. No spacer is gonna fix that. If your passanger is 6" the passanger side will be tight with adjustable seats and a harness bar.
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