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Old 05-23-2005, 09:36 AM   #1
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The pictures give it no justice thats all I got to say. I saw one going from Washington DC to indiana with a friend of mine. We took one pic from behind and i'll post it if you guys want but like I said before pics dont give it justice. Its the biggest vehicle subaru's made and I think we should give them some time before some of you start talking ****. I think we should support and help get the Trebica out there so the company can start making tighter STI's. So I say support the trebica so we can get a faster STI late.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:16 AM   #2
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Having seen several as they were prepped for sale after delivery I admit that I am impressed with the appearant fit and finish of the interior and exterior panels. It really looks and feels very well made and the design seems logical and well thought out.

The marketing is where I have questions about it's future.

Subaru seems confident that the $35k to $40k SUV/wagon segment of the car industry has room for another entry, and I have my doubts. The Murano and FX35 are not big sellers, and both have more spread between the MSRP and invoice pricing which allows consumers with some negative equity in their trade in to finance it instead of coming out of their pocket. Another consideration is that the FX35 and Murano are not the most expensive offering in their respective brands...same holds true for the Caddilac SRX and Lexus RX 330. I think the brand prestige sells many of these units and getting a lower priced model that is "Brand X" that has unfamiliar styling is more palatable than spending extra to get the top of the line model with the same unfamiliar style.

I am curious as to what vehicle you think the Tribeca is most comparable to and how you think it stacks up against it?
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:52 AM   #3
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I am curious as to what vehicle you think the Tribeca is most comparable to and how you think it stacks up against it?

I dont want to just choose a vehicle out there with out doing my homework first. Its a really good question though. I think we should all give this question a stabe. Let me take a look at whats out there for now then I'll get you a reply. I use to work at a car dealership for a while so I have pontiac, caddy and saab known, let me check what else it compares to.
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Old 05-23-2005, 02:02 PM   #4
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I dont want to just choose a vehicle out there with out doing my homework first. Its a really good question though. I think we should all give this question a stabe. Let me take a look at whats out there for now then I'll get you a reply. I use to work at a car dealership for a while so I have pontiac, caddy and saab known, let me check what else it compares to.
The "yay" and "nay" votes were split pretty even in my office. The determining factor seemed to be what vehicle the voter was using for comparison.

Versus the Highlander and Pacifica it did well, but against the RX 330, XC 90, and even the FX 35/Murano it did not hold up. I am interested as to what the NASIOC crowd thinks is a comparable vehicle.
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Old 05-23-2005, 02:53 PM   #5
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I am interested as to what the NASIOC crowd thinks is a comparable vehicle.
Same here in my office, though I did change a few minds about it when I showed them the interior. B9 has an awsome interior at the subaru site give it a chance. If they dont aggree its there silly little way of saying I want the most expensive thing I can buy on the road so I can show off to my neigbor.
Anyway here are some the compation:

> Audi AllRoad
> Buick RendezVous
> Cadillac SRX
> Chrysler Pacifica
> Ford Freestyle
> Honda Element
> Infiniti FX
> Nissan Murano
> Pontiac Aztek
> Porsche Cayenne
> Subaru B9 Trebica
> Subaru Outback
> Volvo XC70
> Volvo Xc90

Mercadez M class as well but I dont know if they consider it comp. So looks like the B9 might make a top 8 list when compared to these.
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:41 PM   #6
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Of that list there are only 5 that I would put after the Tribeca, thats 9th place out of 14. I think the best heads up comparison I have heard is the Honda Pilot. In my book the Pilot wins that battle because it is $6K cheaper fully loaded. Both are AWD, 7pax, similar size, similar performance, similar interior quality. I just wonder how many people will pay the extra for the Tribeca.
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:50 PM   #7
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I doubt it I think were losing the war here with the Tribeca. Will see when it hits the streets, but I swear pictures still give it no justice I've seen it with my own eyes and I really liked it. I thought hellz yea the STI is going to look really good.
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Old 05-23-2005, 06:08 PM   #8
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In my book the Pilot wins that battle because it is $6K cheaper fully loaded. Both are AWD, 7pax, similar size, similar performance, similar interior quality. I just wonder how many people will pay the extra for the Tribeca.
I bought my Pilot on April 31, got it for right at $30,000 with leather and DVD. I was waiting of the B9 to arrive before I made my purchase. The price, extra seat, and cargo space in the Pilot won me over. I couldn't get over the front end of the B9. The Highlander was a close second to the Pilot and we did not choose it for the same reasons as the B9, minus the front end.

The styling on the Pilot is indeed bland, but that is better than being ugly. The MDX is a waste of money in my book, the Pilot is $6K-$8K less for pretty much the same vehicle. If Subaru changes the front of the B9 in the next couple of years it will be on my list when it is time to replace the Pilot.
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:36 PM   #9
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I doubt the Pilot handles as well as the Tribeca, though. That would be a key factor for me.
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Old 05-24-2005, 08:06 AM   #10
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Subaru dumped a ****ton of money into the Tribeca. Chances are they'll recoup their investment and that will allow them to invest in a new and better lineup.

If they lose on the Tribeca, they're going to lose BIG.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:21 AM   #11
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Subaru dumped a ****ton of money into the Tribeca. Chances are they'll recoup their investment and that will allow them to invest in a new and better lineup.

If they lose on the Tribeca, they're going to lose BIG.
I agree with everything you said except the whole they'll recouporate their investment on the tribeca.
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:54 PM   #12
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the one thing that killed me about the tribeca in person was the cramped interior. other than that, it was definately amazing machine. i found it nicer than the acura mdx i had recently cruised aorund in. and those acuras are pretty damn nice.
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:28 PM   #13
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I really wish they had made it even 6 inches longer--would have made a big difference in leg and cargo room.
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Old 05-27-2005, 03:30 PM   #14
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Yea I had alot of faith in the tribeca about a week ago. No more.
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Old 05-27-2005, 09:24 PM   #15
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I thought they were really wierd but the quickly grew on me. They drive really nice and Prob has the nicest interior of any new car of late, but I agree you have to see it in person to appreciate it.

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Old 06-09-2005, 12:10 PM   #16
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nobody in their right mind will buy a mid-size SUV for 7 adults...true, the pilot DOES have a bit more leg room and cargo room...that's where it ends. it does NOT have more 2nd row legroom, however. the pilot and beca AWD systems are NOTHING CLOSE to the same!! the pilot is fwd until loss of traction..50% goes to the back, BUT DELETES ABS IN DOING SO!!! visa-versa, if ABS kicks in, AWD kicks out... the 'beca is mechanically an outback VDC with better suspension. 'beca has the 2nd highest ground clearance in its class, the lowest cg, and the 2nd best power:weight ratio. for those who think the two perform the same, simply drive each on a clear road/feeder/frontage @ 40mph and start avoidance maneuvers...the pilot tails out on the rebound and is extremely difficult to control back. the 'beca takes the same road at 50 with no back wiggle. the pilot is a very very good vehicle. but i think the 'beca is more in direct competition with the X5, XC90, MDX, Murano, and new ML(which is exactly what the magazines and papers are comparing against, and picking over these models). the 'beca is about real-world versatility and engaging drivability with a distinct/dynamic styling. the pilot has one of these 3 features....
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:18 AM   #17
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We are in the market for a new SUV. My wife just can do the minivan thing. I sure can, why can't she. Anyway we have yet to drive the B9 and we will before we buy anything. Just out of loyalty. The B9 may be a great ride when compared to the X5, XC90, ML, etc, etc. But, where is the product for the segment that made Subaru? Up scale is nice and everything but not all of us want/need to go upscale. Subaru has a loyal following that is not upscale what about us?

We may get one who knows, it will come down to price and dealer service. I do have yet to see one in person soI can not comment on the looks. It is hard to compete against the Pilot and the highlander. Forget looks, both of those vehicle are rock solid with good dealer service in my area.

I am concerned about the premium gas requirement.

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Old 07-04-2005, 06:42 PM   #18
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We may get one who knows, it will come down to price and dealer service. I do have yet to see one in person soI can not comment on the looks. It is hard to compete against the Pilot and the highlander. Forget looks, both of those vehicle are rock solid with good dealer service in my area.

I am concerned about the premium gas requirement.

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you really cant compete it with the MDX bc then you might as well argue that the Pilot is a better value over the MDX.. its just premium brand vs cheaper brand.. why buy a I35 over a Maxima?? 2 different classes 2 different attitudes.. why buy a rx330 over a highlander??

2 diff classes

and o yea they are still loyal to current buyers thats why they offered the 5 pax model and the 7 pax base model isnt much more expensive and is well priced.. let the market decide
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Old 07-05-2005, 09:15 AM   #19
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Sat on MDX, Pilot and Tribeca this weekend trying to compare the cars. Tribeca is 10 times better than both MDX and Pilot as far as interior build quality's concern. Both MDX and Pilot seem to be designed from '80s compared to Tribeca. The interior space does seem a little bit tighter in Tribeca.
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:22 PM   #20
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Sat on MDX, Pilot and Tribeca this weekend trying to compare the cars. Tribeca is 10 times better than both MDX and Pilot as far as interior build quality's concern. Both MDX and Pilot seem to be designed from '80s compared to Tribeca. The interior space does seem a little bit tighter in Tribeca.

I just bought a Tribeca and the fit and finish is excellent. Some of the controls feel a bit light to the touch, but nothing as cheap as the other interiors we looked at.
Without exception the interior blows people away. All in all, this is yet another winner from Subaru. The fact that people are debating the looks is fine. It means that it has character...something most others lack. Bottom line: It's a great car, but not for everyone. The same can be said for most of the Subaru line. The only general crowd pleaser seems to be the outback. The WRX remains the ugly duckling of the line along with the Forester, but nothing in as bland or accepted as a Camry or Accord. I say ugly duckling because just about no one is ever in love with the looks of a WRX. It's sort of accepted because of the performance for the money. On the other hand a LOT of people love the Tribeca's looks bigtime, including my wife and I. So far the biggest raves are from older folks. I think the front end is retro enough to appeal to the more mature car lover's eye, then again...a pretty young girl stopped and asked bout the car this morning!
That's the Subaru way and it always surprises me when folks question a company willing to build cars that don't conform.

Bravo Subaru!

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That's the Subaru way and it always surprises me when folks question a company willing to build cars that don't conform.

Bravo Subaru!

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WOW! That whole post was very well said, especially the last line!

I'd rather be different from the average flock of sheep and drive what I like as well as being whats best for my needs. Subaru has been keeping me happy to date!

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