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Old 05-24-2005, 03:07 PM   #1
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Default Why Civic in STX??

I noticed this in Atlanta and now, looking at the Atlanta SeDiv entry list, I see it again.

It would appear as if its the same car, based on entrant info.
Entered in STS and STX....

Do they do it hoping one will be the "tire warmer". OR are they just hoping for more than one class win.
What might be the typical drive behind a decision like this?

Just curious.........

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Old 05-24-2005, 03:12 PM   #2
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multiple class wins, more opportunity for contingency with more classes, STX is often slower LOL.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:13 PM   #3
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I'm guessing if more than two people are going to run it, then it will have to be in more than one class.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:17 PM   #4
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I'm guessing if more than two people are going to run it, then it will have to be in more than one class.

Well..it looks like its in STSL also, so that may play a part in run group order conflicts...I dunno...
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:23 PM   #5
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An STS car is fully legal in STX and STU.. and an STX car is legal in STU also.

If they want to run against higher prepped cars, they can.

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Old 05-24-2005, 03:27 PM   #6
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An STS car is fully legal in STX and STU.. and an STX car is legal in STU also.

If they want to run against higher prepped cars, they can.

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I know this.....I was just curious why they would.....

In my case..I could run my car in SM, but I wouldnt because I'd lose..

I'm guessing, in the case of the Civic..they KNOW they have the potential of winning both classes, so they run both.
I guess whether or not the Civic wins STX will mostly be course dependant??
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:28 PM   #7
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Well also, thats the Underdog Civic. You already have 2 people running it in STS and then Heyward's Wifey in STSL. So only place left for another driver is STX.

Last but not least, I think the Civic would be an STX killer if someone built one

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Old 05-24-2005, 03:28 PM   #8
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What would be legal for STX and not for STS that you could change at an event?
There is a CRX in STX in my region, I'll have to ask him what mods put him in STX.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:29 PM   #9
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CRX != STX

And a diff is what would put you in there.

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Old 05-24-2005, 03:31 PM   #10
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I assume you are talking about Heyward's car.

Honestly, people do this all the time with dedicated auto-x cars. It happens because you have some people who don't have a car to run, and other people are nice enough to let them run theirs.

In this case, Cliff needs a car to run... Heyward and Mitch are already running STS. So, Cliff runs STX. I don't think they are looking for a competitive advantage. Cliff always bums rides and Heyward, being a nice guy that he is, let's him drive the Civic. Just so happens that it can be competitive in more than 1 class.

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Old 05-24-2005, 03:33 PM   #11
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Wow, look at all the reply's since I started typing... I gotta learn to type faster.

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Old 05-24-2005, 03:35 PM   #12
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We're up to 6 now.....

I was hoping for a not so obvious loss---Thanks for entering Tom


Does this mean you're "borrowing" the car from Biggly? Or is he coming too??
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:37 PM   #13
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Up here in Milwaukee someone is running a GTI with a Front LSD which has bumped him from STS to STX. The car is really quick and definitely holds its own.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:39 PM   #14
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What would be legal for STX and not for STS that you could change at an event?
Not much. The most obvious option would be bigger wheels/tires, but I don't think that applies to a Civic. AFAIK, they're not even running 225's, or at least not all of them. Otherwise, if somebody is quick with the wrench, they might be able to swap exhausts between heats.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:48 PM   #15
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We're up to 6 now.....

I was hoping for a not so obvious loss---Thanks for entering Tom


Does this mean you're "borrowing" the car from Biggly? Or is he coming too??
I'm sniping bigglys car for the divisional and the oscoda pro, so he won't be down

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Old 05-24-2005, 04:57 PM   #16
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Last but not least, I think the Civic would be an STX killer if someone built one
STX Civics (all the way down the bottom of the following pages)

http://www.ner.org/Solo/results/05/event1_fin.html
http://www.ner.org/Solo/results/05/event2_fin.html
http://www.ner.org/Solo/results/05/event3_fin.html

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Old 05-24-2005, 05:21 PM   #17
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Wait, so nate AND chang ho built one?

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Old 05-24-2005, 06:46 PM   #18
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Well..it looks like its in STSL also, so that may play a part in run group order conflicts...I dunno...
Interesting... I know this can and is done for regional events, but I thought there was a maximum of 2 different classes for a car to be run in at a Divisional or National event. I guess it depends on if the rule is in the rulebook or if it's in the National Tour/ProSolo supplementals....

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Old 05-24-2005, 07:53 PM   #19
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Wait, so nate AND chang ho built one?

-Tom
mine is an STX car in name only. i was class hopping trying to hunt down some competition.

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Old 05-24-2005, 08:59 PM   #20
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Interesting... I know this can and is done for regional events, but I thought there was a maximum of 2 different classes for a car to be run in at a Divisional or National event. I guess it depends on if the rule is in the rulebook or if it's in the National Tour/ProSolo supplementals....

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Ladies are so slow they don't really count that as an actual class.
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Is this for a contingency possible race? I use to race under Mazda Motorsports and they give more money if you beat more cars in the class. I think BFG does also. Maybe there are a few guys that got together to expand the size of the class to increase the contingency money. Just a thought.

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Old 05-24-2005, 09:51 PM   #22
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Is this for a contingency possible race? I use to race under Mazda Motorsports and they give more money if you beat more cars in the class. I think BFG does also. Maybe there are a few guys that got together to expand the size of the class to increase the contingency money. Just a thought.

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Ladies are so slow they don't really count that as an actual class.
Don't make me bust on your slow, broke-@ss BS car, Andrew!!

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signed up for SEDiv #3 today... #2, months ago
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:08 AM   #24
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Don't make me bust on your slow, broke-@ss BS car, Andrew!!

Karen
signed up for SEDiv #3 today... #2, months ago

Its got frame damage I think i'm going to trade it in as soon as I get it back from the shop.


Ohh yeah civics are fast. I think someone could take STX in one if they set it up right.
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:23 AM   #25
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Ohh yeah civics are fast. I think someone could take STX in one if they set it up right.
ProSolo.. never. Solo-II... it's possible/course dependant.
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