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Old 10-04-2005, 09:59 AM   #51
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I am not sure if the SVX are press in or bolt on. I would suspect they are press in. If they are then parts and labor would be more expensive if you used the SVX front parts, the back would likely be the same.
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Old 10-04-2005, 04:04 PM   #52
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I am not sure if the SVX are press in or bolt on. I would suspect they are press in. If they are then parts and labor would be more expensive if you used the SVX front parts, the back would likely be the same.
so is the 05 STi rear knuckle thicker than the 04 and the brake mounting points are the same?
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Old 10-04-2005, 04:11 PM   #53
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yes same as they are the same exact housing, it's only the press in hub that is different
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Old 10-04-2005, 04:19 PM   #54
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yes same as they are the same exact housing, it's only the press in hub that is different
bingo. The 04 and 05 rear knuckle are the same part number. The bearing is the same PN and the hub is different in that the bolt pattern is larger on the 05. The inside of the hub (where teh spindle slides in is the same).
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Old 10-04-2005, 10:16 PM   #55
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So are you saying I can buy the SVX knuckles and hubs instead of the STI hubs and they will be the same thing?? Because we all know anything that has the letters STI in it, Subaru jacks the price up ~50%
I love getting parts at cost. I am seriously adding up the pieces right now. PM'ing bout it.


Javid - any news on those sensor wheels? Ie...think you'll sell off a few this winter because I want some dibs and I am sure SloRice will too!
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:15 AM   #56
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My car is being brought back home tonight. It as been at shops and a freinds house for a while getting work done and just sitting around. I am still out of town on work. The same bud and my co-driver are going to mark and pull the axle either tonight or later this week. Once my machine shop measures it should take less than a week to have the draft set of gears. I will bolt em up, confirm the wheel speed is good to go. Drive the piss out of the car (cause I haven't driven it in months and to "test the gears" ) . At that point I am going to pull the knuckles off the axles again just to inspect the gears. If all looks good I will build 5 or 10 sets.

FYI: From talking with my machinist a few months back, these aren't going to run that much. I anticipate a set being $40-$80 at most.
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:18 AM   #57
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My car is being brought back home tonight. It as been at shops and a freinds house for a while getting work done and just sitting around. I am still out of town on work. The same bud and my co-driver are going to mark and pull the axle either tonight or later this week. Once my machine shop measures it should take less than a week to have the draft set of gears. I will bolt em up, confirm the wheel speed is good to go. Drive the piss out of the car (cause I haven't driven it in months and to "test the gears" ) . At that point I am going to pull the knuckles off the axles again just to inspect the gears. If all looks good I will build 5 or 10 sets.

FYI: From talking with my machinist a few months back, these aren't going to run that much. I anticipate a set being $40-$80 at most.
I am in, let me know and I can paypal you.
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Old 10-05-2005, 08:23 PM   #58
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I am looking at some of these in a 18x9.5". They come in a 5x100 at 22lbs.
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Old 10-05-2005, 09:20 PM   #59
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wow, nice find.
Who makes em? Offsets? Brembo fitment?
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Old 10-05-2005, 10:18 PM   #60
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Axis Reverb
$375 for the 18x9.5 40mm offset
$335 for the 18x8.5, can't remember
each has a 73.1 hub bore so you'll need to get some hub ring which canbe easily made at a machine shop.
These are what I need to run a 285 front and a 245 rear for autocross. I am going to buy one of the 9.5" and fit it up too a 285/35-18 which I have already to see how much the fender needs to be pushed out. I can already fit a 245 with no fender mods. So we shall see.

http://www.optionimports.com/axisreverb.html

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Old 10-12-2005, 10:01 PM   #61
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javid, I've been thinking about the wheel speed sensors and I had a question. If you have the 05 hub/knuckle wouldn't the 05 sensor mount on the hub and why wouldn't it work? I have read this whole thread but it was a couple weeks ago and I can't remember specifics on this.


Justin

PS - any chance at finding out part numbers? If not I will put together the list when I do this and post the PN's.

Thanks!
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:14 PM   #62
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I can get the PNs. Translation, I'll ask Porter to pull them

Wheel speed: The 05 knuckles have the sensor hole over the gear on an 05 axle. Which is in a different place than the 04 axle. Technically I think the gear is on the spindle.... but an 05 knuckle doesn't put your sensor over the gear on an 04 axle.

SOA will only sell you the whole axle assembly, and it ain't cheap. Aftermarket companies only make the half shafts, cause thats the only thing that drag racers break. The spindles and CV joints are buku strong.

ONce again the work has been delayed. However I am going home this weekend, tomorrow actually and and Monday I will drop the goods off at the machine shop..... If you want things done right...


Hang in guys.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:25 PM   #63
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..... If you want things done right...


Hang in guys.
Ahhhh...o so true.

I think I understand now. The wheel speed gear mating ring is on the axle and the 05 axles are different so they don't work unless you buy everything from the tranny out to the studs.

Thanks,
J

Let me know if you need any design work done as by trade I can do some CAD/CAM models if your machine shop needs them. I have a local machine shop that could also do some work if we have a design down pat. I really can't make any contributions as I don't have all the parts yet.

Nice job, I am sure many people are willing to wait. I am putting out my thanks to your crew, trhoppe, wrenchers etc....for being the pioneers of the hub-swapping.
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Old 10-16-2005, 08:34 PM   #64
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The axles are out. I am going to swing by the machine shop tomorrow AM.



To add further complication to this swap. I found that I have '05' inner axles; they plug into the tranny rather than slip on to studs. TopSpeed has confirmed that early 04s have studs and late 04s plug into the tranny. I am wondering what front diff I have...

Note, the above should not matter for this swap. Just an added difference.....
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:05 PM   #65
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Axles are at the shop. Owner said he won't have a problem getting the test set out with in 2 weeks (my next trip back to Atl).
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Axles are at the shop. Owner said he won't have a problem getting the test set out with in 2 weeks (my next trip back to Atl).
Kewl.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:05 PM   #67
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FYI , the outter cv joints from the 05's fits on the 04 shafts. So an alternative is to source out 05 outter cv joints though it may be pricy.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:42 PM   #68
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Interesting, I figured they wouldn't fit cause the axle shafts were changed.

Update, the prototype speed sensor solution has been completed. I am flying back tonight and will go by the machine shop tomorrow to check it out. If it looks good then I will test fit them tomorrow evening.
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Old 10-30-2005, 03:20 AM   #69
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FYI , the outter cv joints from the 05's fits on the 04 shafts. So an alternative is to source out 05 outter cv joints though it may be pricy.
If you have a "later" 04 it sounds like it may be possible to just run a set of '05 axles with your 05 hubs then since they slip into the tranny? Or did I miss something along the way here....

Javid: Let us know how the gears go, we are currently building up a "early" 04 STi to compete in the regional ITE class here in the Bay Area and would be interested in a set of gears for for that car. (or all 3 sets if the 05 axles wouldnt work on the other 2 cars which are the later slip in type).

Thanks again for the great info!

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Old 10-31-2005, 12:34 AM   #70
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The car is back together and working fine. It's good to have the center diff back

The solution we went with is a machined collar. We pulled the stock gear off the spindle and then pressed it on to the collar. The collar was then pressed onto the spindle. The shop handled pulling the gear and pressing it onto the collar while I was out of town. They said that the needle on the gear puller pressure gauge didn't move when they popped it off, so it should be pretty easy for the rest of you. Pressing the gear on the collars was done in a standard press. To press the collar and gear on the spindle, we used the axle nut and a few collars from the press. The shop made this first set with a ID that was 0.5 thousands of an inch smaller that the OD of the spindle, so we had to be very careful putting it on. Future collars will proabably be 0.25 thousands smaller and press on much easier. The shop was certain that at 0.25 it would still be tighter than the OEM configuration.

The shop I used does precision machining for mostly nuclear/radiological applications. They were precise but expensive. The shop is going to use an outside CNC shop to make up a batch of the collars, they should be ready with in a week or so. A full convertion kit (OEM parts, collars, aftermarket rotors, but no wheels) is also in the works.




shanenlorenz, for my STi I believe that the 05 axles would have worked. They are pretty expensive though.
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Awesome, glad to see everything is coming together.

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A full convertion kit (OEM parts, collars, aftermarket rotors, but no wheels) is also in the works.
Hmmm. If those rotors are going to be SP-legal and the price is right, I might just bite on that.
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Hmmm. If those rotors are going to be SP-legal and the price is right, I might just bite on that.
I would be interested in OEM PN list but I am going to put together my own rotors stuff. I hope this all turs out well and Javid's ABS works right.

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Old 11-12-2005, 10:08 PM   #74
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javid or Tom, i wouldn't mind some advice here. I just sat down and figure out my cost for this would be around $1500.

I am seriously considering buying customs CCW 18X10.5's for next autocross season. The only problem is I need to decide on a bolt pattern. I understand how much better the 05 bearings are but does it justify the cost for someone that only Autocrosses their STi? I don't do any track time at all.....just looking for some advice as now that I think about it, I am halfway into that cost if I have to rebuild my hubs for next year anyways. I do about 20 events a year (120 runs) and I expect those 285s will not be nice to my bearings.

Thanks,
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PS - javid, can you PM me contact information for replacing my uprights on my JICs. I noted you have the same oil-covers I do.

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Old 11-16-2005, 06:32 PM   #75
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Update, I put plenty of test miles on the car this past weekend. Collars are still working great.

CNC order is in and should be ready by mid next week.



PM trhoppe for info on kits.
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