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Old 05-27-2005, 09:23 PM   #1
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Default 05 Sti TEIN Flex fit 04 STi?

As posted in an earlier Unanswered thread:

If the Hubs and knuckle/brakes don't work for the 04-to-05 STi Suspension swap...

will 05 Sti flex fit on a 04..i would guess not but i know theres a few things that by drilling a hole in a certain part could make them work? Thats @least what I heard about Nissan S13 to S14 Suspension stuff (coilovers).?
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Old 05-27-2005, 10:06 PM   #2
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No, will not fit. and by the way, don't ever drill or enlarge the clevis holes. that weakens a pretty damn important structural, LOAD BEARING, element of the suspension. I can't believe it when shops do that or suggest it. idiots.
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Old 05-28-2005, 11:28 AM   #3
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Ok well thanks for the reply.

what makes the 05 TEINS diffrent than the 04's.

You know this from actaully trying it or just figuring "no" because it dosen't "sound like it will work"?

If I could find out if the whole 05 Suspension swap would work on my 04...then I could have it all,...His tEINS, 05 Wheels (8" wide) and all the other stuff he wants to get rid of.
It seems that Sway bars and all the other stuff are swappable but I gotta know what makes the 04 and 05 TEINS diffrent.
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Old 05-28-2005, 12:20 PM   #4
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You may want to think BEYOND the brand you were about to try and install. Cusco and ZEAL make great coilovers. I think you really get what you pay for with some suspension mods and dampers is one of those things. Broaden your search and dont follow the masses into the "GREEN" forest.......(cough) tein forest.........lol

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Old 05-28-2005, 01:32 PM   #5
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You may want to think BEYOND the brand you were about to try and install. Cusco and ZEAL make great coilovers. I think you really get what you pay for with some suspension mods and dampers is one of those things. Broaden your search and dont follow the masses into the "GREEN" forest.......(cough) tein forest.........lol

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I agree...but for the price..I'm gonna take the Pepsi Challenge.

But will these fit is the question..and what makes them diffrent.Is it something I can change like the lower bracket to make these work of is it a Physical impossibility?
Theres gotta be a way.

I need hard evidence.

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Old 05-28-2005, 02:18 PM   #6
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They do not fit. Get over it already... The 05 use a different lower mounting bracket completely. This is not something your going to make fit by grinding a hole a little larger, filing down a corner etc.

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Old 05-28-2005, 04:03 PM   #7
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The 05 use a different lower mounting bracket completely.
There you have it.

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Is it something I can change like the lower bracket
Then theres hope if you think about it.TEIN has parts so If that is the only diffrence (that we know of) then looks like I may be able to order a diffrent "LOWER BRACKET" and work this out.
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:58 AM   #8
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Quote:
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You may want to think BEYOND the brand you were about to try and install. Cusco and ZEAL make great coilovers. I think you really get what you pay for with some suspension mods and dampers is one of those things. Broaden your search and dont follow the masses into the "GREEN" forest.......(cough) tein forest.........lol

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Don't listen to this guy, Tein's are well designed and the only brand he mentioned available for rebuild in the U.S. Cusco and Zeal make good products too but in my opinion are overpriced
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Old 05-29-2005, 09:52 AM   #9
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IMO...Myles' comments need to be taken with a grain of salt sometimes. He has obvious reasons for promoting the products he sells, but this isn't the vendor forum. And unfortunately it seems that pretty pictures have more "value" than proper valving.

For a unit in the $1500 range, I think the Flex are quite good. If you aren't going to do lots of autocross or track use, or daily drive on bumpy roads, you might opt for lower spring rates. The valving performs quite well at +- 2Kg/mm spring rate adjustments.

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Old 05-29-2005, 09:53 AM   #10
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from another Thread..........


No comment on calling me an ASS. From time to time I actually run into people at events , so save that comment for another day.

As for TEINS,.we do carry TEINS. We can get TEINS,.we can be competitive with TEIN pricing. We have had BAD luck with the green coilovers. So to each its own. What I do know, is how many customers we have coming OUT of TEINS and into Cusco and other brands. For every person who likes a product, there is one who doesnt. Last time I checked that doesnt make me and ASS.

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He would get the same ride ALOT of people complain about TEINS, over sprung and under damped. Alot of guys coming from WRX install TEINS and they are in love, yet the STI guys who start with a much better damper , HATE the teins( not all but some)....so its all relative. I still dont think you comment was called for,.....but....this is a forum and you reserve that right to call me or anyone what ever you want to.

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Old 05-29-2005, 10:00 AM   #12
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IMO...Myles' comments need to be taken with a grain of salt sometimes. He has obvious reasons for promoting the products he sells, but this isn't the vendor forum. And unfortunately it seems that pretty pictures have more "value" than proper valving.

For a unit in the $1500 range, I think the Flex are quite good. If you aren't going to do lots of autocross or track use, or daily drive on bumpy roads, you might opt for lower spring rates. The valving performs quite well at +- 2Kg/mm spring rate adjustments.

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The products with or without "pretty pictures" do have actual valving. I give you credit for at least not calling me an ass............

...even though , you may have been thinking it..........

Yeah we post pictures of some products, and yes that appeals to some people, and others hate it. We also sell products that we have used and with great success also. Some times people who cant afford some products get mad when they see something ALOT that they cant get.

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I would never call you an ass Myles. I think you are a great guy, I just wish the manufacturers of the products you liked would divulge more info on their product. You can get graphs of the evil green units on the actual evil green site, which went a long way toward helping me choose my end product. That and actually riding in and racing a few STis on Cusco and JIC. For my use, I moved away from those units.

I have the money to buy Zeals or Moton or build a set of Advanced Design or whatever, but unless I can see that their characteristics are "better" than what I have, I'm not gambling. If I was serious into national level competition this year, I would probably go the custom AD direction, because their willingness to share their magic and tailer products to a specific need appeals to me more then the trust a brand name method.

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I would never call you an ass Myles. I think you are a great guy, I just wish the manufacturers of the products you liked would divulge more info on their product. You can get graphs of the evil green units on the actual evil green site, which went a long way toward helping me choose my end product. That and actually riding in and racing a few STis on Cusco and JIC. For my use, I moved away from those units.

I have the money to buy Zeals or Moton or build a set of Advanced Design or whatever, but unless I can see that their characteristics are "better" than what I have, I'm not gambling. If I was serious into national level competition this year, I would probably go the custom AD direction, because their willingness to share their magic and tailer products to a specific need appeals to me more then the trust a brand name method.

All IMO of course.

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Chris I hear you and appreciate your better explanation. I hope my defensive sarcasm did nt bother you. I too wish I could get the info, as I have asked for it many times. We tested a grey market B6 a while ago and were very impressed.We have decided and decided a while ago to do a shoot out. But that means getting ALOT of brands together to do so. Trust me, we will test them all , or as many as we can get our hands on. The second we only test 2 or 3,.there will be an outlash of "please test these"......so thats how we will proceed here shortly.

With at least 2 overseas companies a month asking us to slap our name on their coilovers, we have entertained that thought of designing our own, based on what we know people want and need. The Motons will done shortly and they will have a DYNO chart at the TOP of the thread......BEFORE the pictures..............

Chris I am glad we understand each other better, thanks and hopefully I wasnt too defensive.

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Old 05-29-2005, 10:52 AM   #15
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well..Main question is can you buy TEIN parts to possibly change the lower bracket (from 05 STi) to mount up to an 04 STi?

They are obviously welded in some parts (on the bracket) but w/ the guys I work w/ that Build race cars I'm sure it would be an easy task for them if its possible to make them fit on my car
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no - the tein Flex for the 04 and )5 are their own unique parts...the two are in no way interchangeable in the rear. The front units are the same
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