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Old 05-29-2005, 10:29 PM   #1
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Default Who Stole My Coolant?

I know this has been posted a few times (looked it up).
I'm losing coolant (the car not me), and I have no idea where. I got under it yesterday to change the oil and filter. No signs of anything, in fact the car has no stains at all underneath. I have 22,230 on it, and IMHO it shouldn't leak anything. Being a Fleet Manager, I know better. LOL

Has anyone else lost coolant?
With the Gold Plus plan, was that covered?
Did Subaru give you a loaner?

Perplexing questions for those who are up late, or who get up early.
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Old 05-30-2005, 03:27 AM   #2
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It could be getting into the combustion chamber and steaming off, in this case you wouldnt get a puddle.

Generally though when head gaskets start to go on 2.5's it seems to be an external leak. Though it still could be one.
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Old 05-30-2005, 07:01 AM   #3
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I have the same problem on my turbo (about 10K miles). No leaks; no smell of coolant burning off. I have no idea what's going on.
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Old 05-30-2005, 01:40 PM   #4
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Check bottom hose for leaks.... barely smells and wont see leak under car since it drip onto the plastic with some material on it and it absorves it.
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Old 05-30-2005, 04:36 PM   #5
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Mine was leaking at the block drain plug, Dealer resealed and is now fine. This was with 6,000 mi.
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Old 05-30-2005, 07:57 PM   #6
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I appreciate the replies. I don't think it's a head gasket, because the car would have to run hot (I thought), and the oil would have to contain coolant. I have a street-rod that ran hot (bad) and blew both head gaskets. I got her cooled down before I locked up the engine. Stupid electric fan I installed wasn't near enough. Now I got a 20 inch fan, and I can't run the heater in the winter, but she doesn't run hot. LOL
Well, I will know tomorrow if it's covered or not. That's kind of what I was trying to find out.
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Old 05-31-2005, 09:41 PM   #7
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[quote=gstien]I appreciate the replies. I don't think it's a head gasket, because the car would have to run hot (I thought), and the oil would have to contain coolant.[quote]

Not necessarely..... It can leak out side without running hot, just looses cooolant.
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Old 06-02-2005, 12:11 PM   #8
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mine leaked at 10k miles and it smelled horrible while i was driving. one of the hoses has a cut. it should be about a 30 minute repair job at the dealership. no big deal.
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Old 06-02-2005, 09:37 PM   #9
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Well, I am going to add some coolant to the reservoir. Then I am going to check it daily, and see if it leaks out. Since this is my first new car, I was somewhat shocked to see fluids missing. In my job, I have bought 25 Dodge Rams and 15 Ford Taurus's (in the past 2 years). The Dodge? F'n a/c went out on 21 out of 25! The Fords? Running good so far.
I digress.....I have never seen one this new, leak. I guess it's possible though.
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Old 06-02-2005, 11:28 PM   #10
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Before you go to the dealer, here is a dumb question":

Are you sure you are reading the bottle correctly? There is a low level and a normal level. If you check it after driving, it will be closer to the low level and when the car cools off, it will go to the normal level. It is also not uncommon to go thru a little coolant with that mileage. May just need to be topped off.

If there is a problem with a leak, it is covered under your 3/36 warranty or your 5/60 warranty, depending on the problem. If you have extended warranty, you should have no problems. If the car is not running hot I don't think you have much to worry about. Keep us posted
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Old 06-04-2005, 05:22 AM   #11
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My 91 Ranger had a head gasket leak that was external only-drove us nuts for a long time because it was pretty slight, and the leak was hidden behind accessories (couldn't see the staining on the block).
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Old 06-04-2005, 07:24 AM   #12
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My VW had the same shiat. The leak was behind the headers and a 16V vw has them by the fire wall so I couldnt see it. It was until I flushed and changed coolant that I started to smell it and I could find it. It was a tiny leak.
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Old 06-14-2005, 09:35 PM   #13
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Head gasket issues are covered longer, there's a special coolant additive that needs to be added and only specific Subaru coolant shoud be used per the factory bulletin.

"Certain 1999 through 2002 2.5L equipped vehicles may experience an external coolant leak at the head gaskets. As a precautionary measure, SOA is adding a special conditioner to the engine cooling system. This conditioner prevents leaks from occurring and corrects existing leaks.
Only early Phase II 2.5 liter engines are affected. Phase I 2.5 liter engines (some 1999 model year and prior years) are not affected. Countermeasures applied to the manufacturing process for those 2002 and later VINS not affected by this campaign have eliminated the need for this campaign to be performed on those vehicles.
In the future, it will be necessary to add Genuine Subaru Cooling System Conditioner to the SUBARU vehicle cooling system whenever the engine coolant is replaced.
If the vehicle owner has this repair performed promptly, Subaru will extend warranty coverage on cylinder head gasket external coolant leaks to a period of 8 years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first. Warranty coverage begins on the date the vehicle was delivered to the first retail purchaser or on the date the vehicle was first placed in demo or rental service. The owner must have Genuine Subaru Cooling System Conditioner added to the vehicle at any subsequent cooling system services at the interval specified in the Warranty and Maintenance Booklet under the heading “Schedule of Inspection and Maintenance Services”. Resulting damage caused by a lack of maintenance or low coolant level will not be covered"


"4/2005 all models bulletin re best type of radiator coolant to use Subaru radiator coolant is a phosphate, non-anime kind made for aluminum radiators and engines and is the only type that should be used."
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Old 06-14-2005, 10:26 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BajaT05
My VW had the same shiat. The leak was behind the headers and a 16V vw has them by the fire wall so I couldnt see it. It was until I flushed and changed coolant that I started to smell it and I could find it. It was a tiny leak.
HAHA VW is great with their "coolant migration"
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:35 PM   #15
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New HG fixed it and then at a year later the composite OEM HG went between 1 and 2 and lost all compression. I got fed up and up an all metal HG from a 2.0 8V and then a year later the block cracks at the WP outlet (I think the shop who took the broke WP bolts did it). I am cursed with VWs LOL.
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:07 AM   #16
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well- I got a strong wiff of anti-freeze in the garage tonight.

I looked around the top but didn't see anything wet. didn't get a chance to look underneath yet. Coolant level is still between the lines but closer to the low mark, this was after the 30mile drive home and things were good and hot.
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:08 AM   #17
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I checked this morning and my coolant level is below the low mark after cooling down over night. I didn't see any wet spots on the plastic.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:45 PM   #18
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I added some to mine, shortly after posting (awhile back). It's at the proper level now, and has been for some time. What's weird, is that I have a yellowish buildup on the inside of the radiator cap. That doesn't look good. Car doesn't run hot, and I don't smell anything, but I am taking it in around 30,000 (4,000 away) for that inspection stuff. I think they flush coolant then, but I could be wrong.
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