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Old 08-02-2001, 06:31 PM   #1
scirocco22
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Question Anybody with Muth signal mirrors on an S?

Has anybody installed Muth signal mirrors on a Forester S? I believe that Muth is the manufacturer that provides the mirrors that are an option on the Ford Explorer. I'm noticing on their web-site that they make them for a Forester S but not for any other Subaru model. If any of you do have them, did you install them yourself? Do they work as advertised? Overall impression? For reasons that I'll mention later, I'd like to install either the Muth mirrors or side turn signal repeaters ...or both; I'm assuming that the wiring could handle both. (Yuji, do you have any more of those repeaters?)

I'm supposedly going to pick up tomorrow the Forester S+ that I've now been waiting over a month to purchase. The dealer called today and told me it is ready with the gauge pack installed. I'm still not absolutely sure that I'm making the right decision. The Forester is replacing an older model 4Runner that has been the best vehicle I've ever owned. The Forester is not as big or rugged as the 4Runner so I don't know if it is going to fill my needs or not. I'm just hoping that it will be "almost" as reliable as the 4Runner for I know that Toyota reliability is hard to beat.

Some of you that post here also post over at Edmunds so I know what you've been saying to people like Nadine. I just hope you all are right and that once I have the Forester that I won't have any regrets!

TIA everybody!

--'rocco
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Old 08-02-2001, 11:13 PM   #2
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Wow, moving from a 4Runner to a Forester is quite a big change. If you're worried about "ruggedness" I don't think that should be a problem as long as you use the Forester for what it was supposed to be -- a multipurpose vehicle that lets you do everything from light off-roading to enjoying the twisties. Just don't go rock-hopping on the Rubicon with the stock suspension!

Remember that the Forester is based on the Impreza chassis -- a very rigid platform that has proven itself in the World Rally Championship. You'll be smiling about the how versatile the Forester is.

Keep us updated on your big day!

BTW, no experience with those mirrors.

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Old 08-03-2001, 06:27 AM   #3
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Default Thanks, Ken

yah, I'm missing my old 4Runner ...it was one of the older 2-doors and not only looked rugged but actually was. I could abuse it to no end and it still drove like new almost 15 years later. No, I'm not going to be doing any off-roading with the Forester but plan on hauling stuff with it for an upcoming remodeling project. You're right, the 4Runner was a truck and the Forester is a car but my hope is that it is durable enough to take some hard driving and can withstand things being thrown in and out of it without things breaking or malfuntioning. My real concern is that it is not going to be quite big enough. I wanted something that was about the same size as the 4Runner but did not want to move up into the mid-size SUV range because they all now have 6 cylinder engines (4wd models) that get less than 20 mpg. Well, I'll keep my finger crossed.

Thanks much for taking the time to respond, Ken. Everytime I post over on the Forester board at Edmunds, I rarely get anyone to respond. I think I've offended and irritated the regular guys like juice, bitman, lark6 and armac probably because I come across as a know-it-all or maybe my posts are too long... who knows, lol. I did call the Forester "frumpy" looking once so maybe that's it

Again, I appreciate your taking the time to comment.

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Old 08-03-2001, 09:16 AM   #4
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Cool 'rocco - I'm not offended!

Everyone is a new owner once - I lurked on edmund's for a long time until I had enough info to make an educated purchase. I don't post as often as I used to there because I usually don't have anything novel to say. I did post more when I had problems with my rear wheel bearings and a fuel gauge sender early on but they have since been remedied. I got a lot of feedback there that helped me state a case with SoA and get things done to my satisfaction. It's especially cool that SoA has a rep (Patti) who cruises that forum - you can get close to immediate feedback from her.

I've had mine for almost 20 months and 25K+ miles now and still not regretting it (well, only a bit more since the WRX intro). I'm still learning a lot about the car from the people you mentioned and the people here. Edmund's boards give you a greater slice of life while i-clubbers are more about performance. Since the Forester is based on the (now) last-gen Impreza and that's what most i-clubbers have, what better place for us to learn about performance mods? Ken ^ posted his Hella Supertone install pix which I followed to a T - until I ham-fistedly broke the grille clips .
Don't ever be afraid to ask questions - you're gonna be plunking down some hard-earned cash on your Forester and it's in your best interest to learn all you can.

See you on both boards!

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Old 08-03-2001, 01:39 PM   #5
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'rocco,

My pleasure. Always a cool thing to welcome a new Forester owner.

Now that you mentioned it, I think I may have seen some of your posts on Edmunds as well. I frequent both i-club and Edmunds so feel free to post any questions on either. The other regulars there are all very cool folks. Some may be more opinionated than others but they all mean well and are a great resource.

Getting back to your capacity concerns, do you plan on having passengers in the back seat often? If no, you gain quite a bit of cargo space by folding down those rear seats. The nice thing about the Forester being so boxy is that you get lots of volume. I think juice once fit some big home appliances back there. If you remove the front passenger seat headrest, pull the seat all the way up and recline it all the way down, you further increase the cargo space. I was easily able to fit my Ikea CD racks inside my Forester by doing just that.

Hard driving? Well, kind of depends on what your definition of hard is. Again, I point out the rigid chassis, beefed up suspension (relative to cars) and workhorse engine. I think all the old, beat up Subie wagons from decades past I see in the Sierras are a testament to their durability.

Did you pick it up yet?

Ken
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