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Old 06-06-2005, 01:03 PM   #1
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I went to the drag strip yesterday and made 5 runs. My Baja Turbo had 1350 miles on it (there was also a forester xt there with about the same milage). I tipped the scales at 3940 with me in the car. I weigh about 240 lbs. and my baja has the 4EAT transmission with sports shift and the trailer hitch (nothing was removed).

Launching the 4EAT was a little more difficult than I expected. My best 60' time was 2.438. The best run I could muster was a 16.248 @ 84.58 MPH. I have the timeslips up on my website, but it looks like I haven't enough post to do links yet.

There is a lot of potiential here, and with the right mods I believe this could become quite the sleeper.
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Old 06-07-2005, 09:26 AM   #2
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what track did you go to? That seems pretty slow to me, your mph is also off, but it might be the weight of your baja. I think mine is about 3700 pounds (5 speed). I can understand the 60' time affecting your time, but the mph should be higher.

For comparison, my 5 speed went 15.06 @ 91 mph, bone stock, at island dragway, and thats with a blown launch of 2.17. I also had another run of 15.07 @ 90mph with a similar launch. Even on the ones where I totally choked (2.46 60' I think?) I was still 15.5 @ 89-90 mph.
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Old 06-07-2005, 09:43 AM   #3
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I was at Englishtown, NJ pretty close to sea level however it was in the high 80's low 90's all day and pretty humid. I also forgot to mention that ran with 3/4 full tank of gas. If you subtract my weight, the Baja was 3700 lbs. on the nut. I was using the sport shift and almost running 3erd to redline. I may have benifited if I just kept in automatic mode.

Launching an automatic is pretty nerve racking. One foot on the brake and the other on the gas pedel. I don't think I made it to the 3200 RPM that was suggested in the 4EAT launching sticky. Once I let off the brake, I'd bog and THEN the turbo would spool (at least that is what it felt like, I don't have a boost gauge so I have no idea where the turbo was at while on the line).
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Old 06-07-2005, 09:46 AM   #4
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I was at Englishtown, NJ pretty close to sea level however it was in the high 80's low 90's all day and pretty humid. I also forgot to mention that ran with 3/4 full tank of gas. If you subtract my weight, the Baja was 3700 lbs. on the nut. I was using the sport shift and almost running 3erd to redline. I may have benifited if I just kept in automatic mode.

Launching an automatic is pretty nerve racking. One foot on the brake and the other on the gas pedel. I don't think I made it to the 3200 RPM that was suggested in the 4EAT launching sticky. Once I let off the brake, I'd bog and THEN the turbo would spool (at least that is what it felt like, I don't have a boost gauge so I have no idea where the turbo was at while on the line).
I would try one run just in automatic mode just nailing it off the line and see how that compares. Most of the car mags get them to run mid to high 15s at about 90mph just doing that.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:22 AM   #5
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http://www.crimsonmkii.net/baja/boostedbaja.htm My timeslips are here, but when I scanned them I clipped parts of them... I'll be rescanning when I get a chance.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:30 AM   #6
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I thought those times seemed pretty decent for an auto
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Old 06-08-2005, 08:41 PM   #7
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I meant to try a straight up automatic mode without using the sport shift... just didn't do it for whatever reason. This gives me the excuse to get back on the track again.

Do any of you Golf? The reason I ask is because after every round I think back upon how well I did and try to visualize or think through what I could have done better. Or better yet what areas I need improvement on. Believe me, my golf game is worst than my drag racing so I have lots to think about there....

Sometimes when I do this something comes to mind that I know I was doing wrong the entire round. In this case, I re-read the launch sticky at clubwrx. I think I know what happened off the line....

The sticky says that when your in drive and building RPMs that the car will almost stall or quit at around 2300 RPM. Well, I believe this was happening to me, and rather than giving it more gas, I was letting up on the accelerator. This could be where the bog I was feeling off the line... I wasn't giving it enough gas on the line.

Speculation, but if I had given it more juice and come off the line healthy boosting... I should have had lower 60' times.

Any thoughts???

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Old 06-17-2005, 07:08 PM   #8
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Jeff, I'll try to get some input Sunday evening. I should be getting unlimited runs Sunday and I'll try different stuff.
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Old 06-19-2005, 10:14 PM   #9
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I got 20 runs today.
First runs were 16.2, 15.99, 16.3.

Then I started brake holdin and reving a little bit. Approx 1200rpms I guess, or about 1/4 throttle.
15.8, 15.7, 15.7, 15.6, 15.7

Finally I leaned on it some more, but only as the tree started, just enough to get the car to squat a bit before launch (this was a very cool feeling). At launch I'd get a tiny wheel chirp.
15.5, 15.5, 15.4, 15.3, 15.3, 15.4, 15.4

When things went well I'd out run stock or slightly modded WRXs until about mid track when they'd pull on me. I ran the heater full blast just to help keep trans temps low, though I don't think that was ever an issue.
Vehicle weighed in at 3966 with me(180) and spare and 1/4 tank of gas.
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Old 06-20-2005, 08:36 AM   #10
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How'd the Forester do?
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Old 06-20-2005, 08:44 AM   #11
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I got 20 runs today.
First runs were 16.2, 15.99, 16.3.

Then I started brake holdin and reving a little bit. Approx 1200rpms I guess, or about 1/4 throttle.
15.8, 15.7, 15.7, 15.6, 15.7

Finally I leaned on it some more, but only as the tree started, just enough to get the car to squat a bit before launch (this was a very cool feeling). At launch I'd get a tiny wheel chirp.
15.5, 15.5, 15.4, 15.3, 15.3, 15.4, 15.4

When things went well I'd out run stock or slightly modded WRXs until about mid track when they'd pull on me. I ran the heater full blast just to help keep trans temps low, though I don't think that was ever an issue.
Vehicle weighed in at 3966 with me(180) and spare and 1/4 tank of gas.
Sweet, I knew the truck felt like a mid 15 second car! Looks like with very little work it will run 14's! Thanks for your report. By chance do you have timeslips to read over?
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:14 AM   #12
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I got 20 runs today.
First runs were 16.2, 15.99, 16.3.

Then I started brake holdin and reving a little bit. Approx 1200rpms I guess, or about 1/4 throttle.
15.8, 15.7, 15.7, 15.6, 15.7

Finally I leaned on it some more, but only as the tree started, just enough to get the car to squat a bit before launch (this was a very cool feeling). At launch I'd get a tiny wheel chirp.
15.5, 15.5, 15.4, 15.3, 15.3, 15.4, 15.4

When things went well I'd out run stock or slightly modded WRXs until about mid track when they'd pull on me. I ran the heater full blast just to help keep trans temps low, though I don't think that was ever an issue.
Vehicle weighed in at 3966 with me(180) and spare and 1/4 tank of gas.
Chris, what kind of 60' times and 1/4 MPH were you putting down?
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:10 PM   #13
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Heheeheeee! I have 20 time slips for yesterday. I'll try to scan some tonight or in the morning.

20th run was 15.501, 88.68mph, rt .747, 60ft 2.294
19th run was 15.376, 88.89mph, rt .941, 60ft 2.258
18th run was 15.448, 88.96mph, rt .935, 60ft 2.289
17th run I was sleeping 15.7, rt 1.022
16th run was 15.543, 88.07mph, rt.959, 60ft 2.308

After looking at the other slips I guess I sucked more than previously reported. The pre-16th runs were all 15.6+, even a couple above 16secs. It was fun as hell bustin off time a tenth at a time.

The Forester I think was stock and I went up against it once or twice and I got beat. :P
workin on scanning some slips now....
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:27 PM   #14
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I am #136. SLips from near the end of the day.

more coming...
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:41 PM   #15
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:45 PM   #17
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Ok, so I think with a good reaction time, the Baja is just above a 15 second run.

You need to work on them reaction times! Did anyone tell you you didn't have to wait for the green to come on before you left the line?

Stall speed is around 3K rpms. So a 2.5K+ brakestand is a good ticket to a quick time.

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Old 06-21-2005, 03:21 PM   #18
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Ok, so I think with a good reaction time, the Baja is just above a 15 second run.

You need to work on them reaction times! Did anyone tell you you didn't have to wait for the green to come on before you left the line?

Stall speed is around 3K rpms. So a 2.5K+ brakestand is a good ticket to a quick time.

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reaction time has no effect on 1/4 time. Once you go, the timing equipment starts.

seems like auto baja turbo is mid to high 15s if launched right
5 speed baja low 15 probably high 14s if launched right.
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Old 06-21-2005, 08:12 PM   #19
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reaction time has no effect on 1/4 time. Once you go, the timing equipment starts.

seems like auto baja turbo is mid to high 15s if launched right
5 speed baja low 15 probably high 14s if launched right.
Agreed.. its the 60' times that matter early on. I'm thinking a up/down pipe and cobb accessport should get the auto into 14's
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I think once a pilot figures out their Baja and how it likes to launch an AP alone will get it(auto) in the high 14s. Or a couple psi from a MBC will do it.

I didn't understand the whole R/T thing. Everyone who got into the .4s for R/T got a red light, why is that? I mean if it took me 0.4 to react why did I get a red light? I did have a couple .5s and .7s. Heh, and some .9s and 1.0s
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:16 AM   #21
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Reaction Time is how quick you get moving once the tree turns green. A "Perfect" tree is a .5, although people debate now that you can do better than that. Most tracks will red light you on anything better than .5 RT is used to break ties so-to-speak. If you both run the same time they will award the pass to the guy with the quickest RT. If it is a heads up race, and you get down the track quicker than your opponent, but have a slower ET you can also win.
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:23 AM   #22
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Sorry, I was thinking of how in ProSolos, your time off .5 was added to your final time. brain fart! (And I knew this)

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heres a link to mine:
http://www25.brinkster.com/slfba/bajatimes.jpg

im 3335, my friend's turbo jetta is 4693. He managed to also get some mid 14s @ 98 mph on better lauches that day.
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HTTP1.1 STATUS 403 Remote Access to this object forbidden This file cannot be directly accessed from a remote site, but must be linked through the Brinkster Member's site.
I guess you will need to copy-paste the url into your browser address bar.
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