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Old 08-03-2001, 12:22 PM   #1
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Default MY02 Turbo on MY01RS?

I remeber James (RS25.Com) was working on a project to turbo a RS legally by using Subaru parts. If I remeber correct, James was trying to use the old turbo from an older model of Subaru. But now we have the WRX, we could use this turbo instead! I don't know if James is still working on this project, since he moved to CO. I think CO is not as strick as CA...

Has anyone thought of this?!?! It would be cool to design a turbo kit for MY01 and older models and it's legal, expecially in CA!!

Anything thoughts!?!?!
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Old 08-03-2001, 12:34 PM   #2
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There are a couple of ways to legally do an engine swap in CA. First one is to use a CA smog legal engine that is NEWER in model year than the car you are swapping it into. For example, if you swapped a MY02 turbo engine into a MY00 Impreza. You must transplant all of the smog control equipment with the engine, plus the ECU. Then you gotta go through the process of registering it with the state with the new engine. This in itself may cause you some trouble, and you should seek the states advice on this before investing in the swap because rules change.

I went through all of this when I was trying to swap a Chevy 350 into my Jeep. It can be done, but it is a real pain, and will end up costing twice as much as you think.

Another way is to register the vehicle in another state, or better yet in a city in CA that is not under smog control. Check out the DMV website for details. I am told that all you need is a PO box in a city that is in part of the state that does not require smog checks
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Old 08-03-2001, 12:48 PM   #3
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Wow! what a smart way to get around the law!! I was thinking more of just the turbo not the engine. You know, come up with some kind of bolt-on turbo kit like they have out there now. But's it's all Subaru parts! I don't know much about how to get this to be legal, but I know James knows a lot more. I am just wondering if this should be even considered, or screw it and just get a turbo kit that is already out?!

so wa da ya din? mon, wee gotta ket dis sbel chekar pak!!
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Old 08-03-2001, 12:57 PM   #4
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It won't be legal if you just add Subaru turbo parts. It has to be a comlete swap. Here's what happens: you do the swap and you get a piece of paper that says your car now has a MY02 engien in it and it has been approved by the CARB yadda yadda yadda. Then when you go to the smog station you show them this paper and they begin to perform a smog check for a MY02 engine.

The visual part of the smog test is the hardest part. If you do a swap legally then they will look to see if all the smog equipment for a MY02 engine is present.

The only way for a turbo "kit" to be legal is if it is approved by CARB and has a sicker and documentation to show it. A kit is defined as anything that was not original equipment offered by the manufacturer on that particular year and model car.

Make friends in Oregon and use their address to register. Then the first time you get pulled over for a ticket you will be forced to re-register in CA. The only way to do that will be to pull of your turbo, since you need to SMOG the car in order to registerin CA.
It is very very hard to beat CA with it's SMOG laws. I have been trying for 6 years.
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Old 08-03-2001, 01:05 PM   #5
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aaaaaa.... I see... I think that's what James was trying to do... Come up with a subaur "kit" and get CARB approve it. Is it even possible? Man, you and James should have gotten to gether to work this out. But now he is gone, and don't think he is still working on it, since he doesn't really have to worry about all these anymore...

But yeah, is it possible to come up with a kit and get CARB to approve it? Thanks!!
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Old 08-03-2001, 01:40 PM   #6
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Currently there is no kit on the market for the Subaru Impreza 2.5RS that is CARB approved. Not Vishnu,JCSports,ASR,Ludespeed, or any other.

Why do you think that is? Do you think they have been trying? Of course they have, but I do not think it is an easy thing. Actually, I think turbo kit and CARB are contradictions in terms. Just look at the MY02, it has 3 catalytic convertors on itin order for the US and CA to allow it to be imported.

Though there is alot of money to be had for turbo sellers in CA, I don't think there will be a CARB legal kit soon.

There are still many many guys in CA who have turbo kits on their car. Not legally, but they have them. It is gonna suck for them when they have to reverse all their mods when their car is 3 years old and requires a smog ckeck to be registered.
And that trick of "just" finding a mechanic that will pass you for $$$, that is not happening anymore. All my old friends that used to for me are scared stiff because they have friends that have been caught and lost their business because of it.

CARB police are out there man.
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Old 08-03-2001, 11:53 PM   #7
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hmmmm.... hey thanks a lot man! yeah, this CARB thing always make me think twice about a turbo...

well, it's time to move!!!
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