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Old 06-09-2005, 12:31 PM   #1
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My brother just bought a 92 turbo legacy. That makes for 4 subarus between my impreza, my grandmothers legacy, and my mom's 3.0 outback.

Anyways, apparently my brother's 92 outback has the same block as the 22b! Just how lucky of a find was this? What might be involved in upgrading it so it performed a bit more like the 22b version? The car has 200,000km on it already so there's a good chance it would benefit from an engine rebuild in a few more years.

Any thoughts?
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Old 06-09-2005, 12:58 PM   #2
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Doob - Have your brother get a compression & leakdown test. That'll show if he needs a rebuild anytime soon.

It's not the exact same block as the 22B, similar, not the same.
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Old 06-09-2005, 01:21 PM   #3
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NOTHING off the 22b is exactly the same as anything else. That's why you can't do a true 22b conversion. Subaru sells 22b parts to 22b owners ONLY. That's what makes them such a gem.

97legacygt would sell a few feet of his intestines for a 22b.
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Old 06-09-2005, 01:58 PM   #4
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Ok, so it's not exactly the same, but it's very similar right?

Oh, and to clarify, it's a legacy, not an outback (I mixed terms in my first post).

(someone at the dealership who seemed to know what he was talking about said it was the same and was quite excited/jealous).

Regardless, if it's the same/similar, is there anything that can be done before, after or during an engine rebuild to improve performance?

If it isn't exactly the same? Is it still a lucky find? The guy at the dealership sure seemed to think so, he estimated the block alone (w/ 200k km on it) was worth at least 2000cnd (my bro bought the car for 3900cnd).
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:04 PM   #5
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Isn't there a 22b in Calgary? I'm sure I saw one several years back, parked infront of the Perkins that was then next to the London Drugs on Heritage Dr.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:18 PM   #6
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My guess is that it was just a closed deck phase 1 EJ22.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:26 PM   #7
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Doob - if the car was a 5spd w/ the rear LSD, yes that'd be a rare find Otherwise if it was an auto; there's quite a few around here in Calgary.

As for items during the rebuild, it wouldn't hurt to lighten things up a bit. Forged pistons will drop ~400g on the rotating assembly. Having the stock rods cryo treated will increase the limit of fatigue. Cleaning up the heads w/ new valve seat cut and a light P'n'P job wouldn't hurt either.

For more power, swapping out the turbo, adding an TMIC as well as a turbo-back exhaust will give it more juice. Drop us a line, we've got quite a few options available.


Diabolical1 CC - No real 22b's here in Calgary. Several RS' that look close minus the fender flares. There's 2 "official" 22B's in N.America. Both in the states. One of which is owned by Huberger Subaru in Co. Springs, the 2nd by Subaru of America in Cherry Hill NJ. The one in Co. Springs is by no means "stock".
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:40 PM   #8
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Thanks for the details guys.

It is, unfortunately, an auto, and does not have the rear LSD.

I've heard that the early 90's turbo legacies have a great reputation for lasting forever too.

Anyways, it may not be a 22b engine block, but it seems like a really good purchase for the price.

ION, my bro is moving to penticton for a few months, but I think he's coming back eventually, and whever he's ready for that rebuild, we'll keep you in mind.
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Doob - yes the cars are quite stout. The body will rust apart before the motor goes (especially if its still @ stock boost, and well taken care of). Have your brother change over to synthetic oil, it'll help increase the longevity.
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