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Old 06-11-2005, 03:11 PM   #1
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I cleared out my headlights a while back, and within the past month both my hid low beam lights went out. now I bought 1 d2r oem replacement bulb from the dealership, then the same night I went to install it, I noticed the other was out. and I payed $165 basically just to have one light :sadwave: Now can ANYONE please tell me if these bulbs will work, cause they are a lot cheaper then the dealer, and if they do work, which brightness can I get ? 6k-12k
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:08 PM   #2
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I don't know the answer to your question but in anyway did you touch those bulbs with your bare fingers?
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:12 PM   #3
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I dont see why they shouldnt. If you look in the Electrical forum there is a HID FAQ
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:46 PM   #4
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I don't know the answer to your question but in anyway did you touch those bulbs with your bare fingers?
no i didnt touch them, I dont think i did. when I went to take them out, I noticed the litle wire in the center bubble was broke, and the tips were like chipped.... not sure what that means.
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:14 PM   #5
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I'd almost guarantee that you have water in your ballasts. About 1 month after clearing my lights, one of them stopped working. I swapped bulbs, the bulb on the side not working was fine in the side that was working. After removing the headlight assemblies, I turned the not-working light upside down and, HELLO, a little trickle of water from the ballast on the non-working side! So, I baked the light again, opened it up, turned it upside down, and proceeded to bake in 15-20 minute intervals (letting it cool so as not to melt anything), maybe 3-4 times total. I resealed the lights with some RTV sealant after the thorough baking and haven't had any issues since (over a year).

The bulbs are expensive. Therefore, I'd recommend taking out your bulbs and finding someone with HIDs/STi and swap them to see if they work. If they do, then you know the problem is in the ballast or ignitor (and is most likely water).

FYI, I had ZERO condensation on the lens of the light with water in it. There was no sign that the ballast had water in it from the outside. I only found out when I removed it and turned it upside down.

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Old 06-12-2005, 01:27 AM   #6
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Please post in the correct forum. We have an entire forum dedicated to this type of question. Moving....
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Old 06-12-2005, 07:21 AM   #7
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Did you take the bulbs out before you put the lights in the oven or did you leave them in? If you left them in they may have been damaged by the heat and failed as a result. Or, there may have been some arcing due to water in the lights if you didn't seal them properly as mentioned above, that would have damaged them also.
FYI touching the HID bulbs won't cause failure as it does with halogens, as there is no filament to burn out. The reason this happens to halogens is that the oil from your fingers causes the bulb to retain more heat so the filament burns out prematurely. All that's in the HID bulb is gas. It's still a good idea to make sure they're clean before you install them but not as critical.
Before replacing the bulbs you want to be absolutely certain the lights are fully sealed, if in doubt go through the procedure again and reseal them. Check the ballasts for water.
Regarding replacement bulbs, I would avoid the ones you linked to because the brand of bulb is not mentioned. Also you should get the OEM color temperature of 4100-4300K, anything higher will produce more blue light and more glare, with less usable light. The OEM type bulbs are the best for lighting performance. That said, you can get OEM type D2R bulbs in brand names (Philips, Osram) for decent prices without paying the high price at the dealer. A while back I got a pair of brand new Philips 4100K D2S bulbs for $60 on Ebay, so keep looking.
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Old 06-12-2005, 01:53 PM   #8
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I am having the same problem with my HID's. I cleared them and then I got some condensation in my right one and it stopped working. SO would a hair dryer work in drying out the lense? I hope i don't have to pay for a new bulb.
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Like I said above, if only one side is working, change the bulb on the non-working side with the one on the working side (they are exactly the same and are interchangeable). If the non-working side bulb works in the normal side, then the bulb is OK. If the bulb from the working side doesn't work in the bad side, then you know it's the ballast or ignitor on the non-working side.

As for the hair drier, it would probably work, but you want to ensure that NO water remains. I'm not sure the hair drier will give enough heat to completely evaporate the water (unless you sit there for several hours). Besides, most of the water collects in the bottom (where the ballast is), making it difficult to direct the heat to where it's needed. If you don't dry it 100% and then reseal it, there are still going to be problems. That's the reason I rebaked my light, opened, upside-down, 3-4 times at 15-20 minute intervals. I wanted to make sure there was absolutely ZERO water left in the light assembly.

It only takes 10 minutes to get the headlight out, anyway. Might as well do it right. Besides, if you have water/condensation in the headlight, then it should be obvious to you that the seal is not watertight on the headlight (and hence, you'll have to rebake and reseal it anyway).
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:18 PM   #10
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Im soo screwed.... I had the same problem HOWEVER I cleaned all the water out of the whole light asemebly even the ballast... baked it really nice and resealed it very well with more new glue.... and the Light still does not fire on i know the bulb works because it works on the other side... and the fuses on the main fusebox near the battery are all good

Anybody?? HELP!



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Old 06-13-2005, 08:55 PM   #11
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Ballast is probably b0rk3d.
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Old 06-13-2005, 10:02 PM   #12
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Or your ignitor is KO'ed. They aren't cheap to replace, either. You could always try switching ballasts and ignitors side to side to figure out which component is bad. From what I remember, the ignitor is more likely to go bad than the ballast. Check that first.
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