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Old 02-22-2006, 05:19 PM   #101
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Was it ever determined if there was a replacement bearing that had a higher load rating that the OEM units?
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Old 02-22-2006, 05:27 PM   #102
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Yes, there is one, I have it but have never installed it, because my noise is not directly bearing related. To get a set look for my post, I bought them off a site, by calling them.
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Old 02-22-2006, 05:43 PM   #103
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about how often should this be done on typical cars vs. one that is driven aggresively (few autox's a year, etc)
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Old 02-22-2006, 06:04 PM   #104
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So I imagine the bearing has to be taken apart prior to packing? The assembled bearing for my 2.5RS doesn't leave much room for grease to go into. How do I disassemble it?
You don't disassemble it. Get a can of brake cleaner and a roll of shop towels. Grab a bearing, spray liberally with cleaner, wipe, repeat. Keep spraying and wiping until you get all the grease from between the cage and race. Set aside do the next one. The rollers will begin to get loose the as you get the grease out. It took me about an hour and a half to clean for all 4 hubs. Make sure you blow the bearings out, or let the cleaner evaporate before you begin repacking. If you just do them methodcally, by the time you get done the 1st one will be ready to pack.

Here's a good example of how to repack.


Just keep working around the bearing until it oozes up. It gets' messy, but fun. It took 45minutes to repack all 4 hubs, and 1/2 lb. of grease by the time I did all the seals and reassembled.

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Old 02-22-2006, 07:32 PM   #105
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Great write up!


This really needs to be made a sticky!!
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:47 PM   #106
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I think Gary (S) mentioned soaking them in mineral spirits as another way to remove the grease that comes w/ the bearing.
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:50 PM   #107
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You don't disassemble it. Get a can of brake cleaner and a roll of shop towels. Grab a bearing, spray liberally with cleaner, wipe, repeat. Keep spraying and wiping until you get all the grease from between the cage and race. Set aside do the next one. The rollers will begin to get loose the as you get the grease out. It took me about an hour and a half to clean for all 4 hubs. Make sure you blow the bearings out, or let the cleaner evaporate before you begin repacking. If you just do them methodcally, by the time you get done the 1st one will be ready to pack.

Here's a good example of how to repack.


Just keep working around the bearing until it oozes up. It gets' messy, but fun. It took 45minutes to repack all 4 hubs, and 1/2 lb. of grease by the time I did all the seals and reassembled.

I got mine here http://www.crracing.com/racing_perfo...products.shtml
I got it the next day Indy to Toledo. $28.00 plus shipping.
Ok, this is where I got confused... I keep seeing bearings like in the picture above being greased... rollers exposed and everything. Mine looks like the picture below... so as I understand it, I just blow brake cleaner into that small opening to get the old grease out, and then pack new grease into that opening?

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Old 02-23-2006, 07:58 AM   #108
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Ok, this is where I got confused... I keep seeing bearings like in the picture above being greased... rollers exposed and everything. Mine looks like the picture below... so as I understand it, I just blow brake cleaner into that small opening to get the old grease out, and then pack new grease into that opening?


Yes, there's 3 pieces per hub. Take the bearings out of the big race, clean everything, repack, regrease reassemble. Cleaning the large race is pretty quick. And yes if you have time and solvent you can just drop them in a coffee can and let them soak for a couple days. But the cages of our replacement bearings are a plastic, so I'd becareful with an aggressive solvent. I got a non-chlorinated brake cleaner - safe for plastics.

Sorry I thought you meant, take the individual bearings apart.
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Old 03-02-2006, 07:55 PM   #109
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I believe i have wheel bearing issues. But not sure. I have heard what a bad wheel bearing sounds like. It's speed dependant and has a whirring sound.

yesterday, when i drove the car it made a loud mettalic grinding sound when going slow. Day before yesterday it was perfectly fine.The sound disappears at anything over 40mph. Maybe I just can't hear it at that speed. But at low speeds the sound is not like anything i've heard before. It sounds really bad and loud. I did the 12 and 6 o'clock test. It failed that test. So i've stopped driving the car till i can fix it. Could there be something else wrong? The axle nut hasn't backed out and is on there securely. The only other time i had to mess with it is when i did my clutch. That was almost 5,000 miles ago.

Is there anything that could be wrong other than the wheel bearing?

To confirm I need 4 'parts' to fully replace the wheel bearings on each side correct?
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:19 AM   #110
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^^^^ How are your brake rotors, and brakes in general?

A brake pad rivet contacting the rotor can be pretty horrible sounding.
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Old 03-03-2006, 09:24 AM   #111
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Also small stones wiil sometimes get caugth between the dust shield and rotor- this will make a grinding sound.

BUT if you have significant play in your wheel bearing that shouldn't be ignored.
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:16 AM   #112
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Yes, grab your wheel and try moving it from side to side. If it moves around, and makes kind of a 'clunk clunk' noise, it's the wheel bearing. You can even do it without lifting the car, but it's a lot more obvious with the wheel off the ground.
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Old 03-11-2006, 09:39 AM   #113
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Just got finished doing mine... 100% better now. Did it without removing the knuckle from the car too!

I posted a little FAQ / HOW-TO to share my experience... maybe it will help someone else
http://rs.pmgz.net/?page_id=17

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Old 03-11-2006, 09:47 AM   #114
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Hey nicely written guide, kainam00.
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Very nice kainam00, great job. Just shows there's always a way to do things on a budget. Congrats.

Were'nt you contiplating having a shop do it? DIY FTW.
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Kainam00, quick question/concern about pressing the bearings in using washers-- Is it alright to put lateral force on the inside part of bearing, rather than the outside shell? I know bearings aren't meant to deal with much force in that direction, but I really don't know how much force is bad for it.
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Old 03-11-2006, 07:51 PM   #117
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Kainam00, quick question/concern about pressing the bearings in using washers-- Is it alright to put lateral force on the inside part of bearing, rather than the outside shell? I know bearings aren't meant to deal with much force in that direction, but I really don't know how much force is bad for it.
It actually went in relatively easily... so not too much force was required. Mine is not making any noise now, so I guess it's not broken. Bill, the guy who originally did it this way, has over 7k miles on his now with no problems. Where you can really damage the bearing is if you press the hub in the wrong way.
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Old 03-11-2006, 07:53 PM   #118
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Very nice kainam00, great job. Just shows there's always a way to do things on a budget. Congrats.

Were'nt you contiplating having a shop do it? DIY FTW.
Thanks!

I was... but then I decided that since this isn't my DD I might as well try to do it myself. It was definately a worthwhile learning experience!
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Old 03-12-2006, 12:47 PM   #119
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^ I should really log out of my brothers account when using his computer

Thanks for the comments!
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Old 03-12-2006, 02:22 PM   #120
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Just a quick note here. I've done two sets of FRONT bearings on STi's now (both '04s), and you can not pull the race out from the 'outside' of the knuckle. There is a machined step inside the knuckle that the race butts up against, not a snap-ring.

There's a snap ring on the 'inside' (nearest the tranny), so you have to press the race out in that direction.

I am pretty certain that WRX's have the same setup as an '04 STi (they of course changed the '05 STi's).

I don't know what the rear bearing setups are like on GD's, but I'm just pointing this out in case someone tries to do this method on a WRX or STi's front bearings... you'd be met with some frustration.

It is entirely likely that you can still push them out while the knuckle is still on the car, I don't know.. I didn't try it (have a shop-press, so I just did it 'the old fashioned way' ). It would seem that you just use the tools + techniques described in Kainam00's writeup from the inside and just go from there (presuming there's enough room back there to get the 4x4 in there and so on).
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Awesome writeup, thanks.
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Old 03-13-2006, 12:55 PM   #122
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Just a quick note here. I've done two sets of FRONT bearings on STi's now (both '04s), and you can not pull the race out from the 'outside' of the knuckle. There is a machined step inside the knuckle that the race butts up against, not a snap-ring.

There's a snap ring on the 'inside' (nearest the tranny), so you have to press the race out in that direction.

I am pretty certain that WRX's have the same setup as an '04 STi (they of course changed the '05 STi's).

I don't know what the rear bearing setups are like on GD's, but I'm just pointing this out in case someone tries to do this method on a WRX or STi's front bearings... you'd be met with some frustration.

It is entirely likely that you can still push them out while the knuckle is still on the car, I don't know.. I didn't try it (have a shop-press, so I just did it 'the old fashioned way' ). It would seem that you just use the tools + techniques described in Kainam00's writeup from the inside and just go from there (presuming there's enough room back there to get the 4x4 in there and so on).
Doing it from the inside would be more difficult for sure, whether it's possibile at all or not depends on whether there will be stuff in the way back there... If someone gives me an STi, I'll try it
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Thanks to this thread and the excellent members of NASIOC, I replaced the wheel bearing successfully. Just took the assembly over to my friendly neighborhood Subaru tech. Wheel bearings are now easy as cake.
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Doing it from the inside would be more difficult for sure, whether it's possibile at all or not depends on whether there will be stuff in the way back there... If someone gives me an STi, I'll try it
hehe.. hey, it can't hurt to ask, right!


oh: and to be on-topic here... my (sometimes very faulty!) memory indicates you could probably do it on the STi if you had a metal plate instead of the 4x4... it's tight back there, but it could -probably- be done. I guess the verification would be if Subaru has an 'approved method' to do this job on the car already.
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