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Old 06-13-2005, 04:49 PM   #1
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Hey, college student here looking for a car with lots of room and reliability.

I really want an MR2... and will probably still get one, but I also want a car I can shove everything I own inside and then go skiing.

I'm looking at a 1990 Legacy Wagon NA AWD, fully loaded. 160K, no aparent problems, CEL does come on, but car drives fine. I think I can get it for 900. What do you guys think and what are some common problems with these vehicles? Sorry for being such a noob, but I spend most of my time on MR2OC and hence don't know much about Legacys...
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Old 06-13-2005, 09:22 PM   #2
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The first gen legacies are pretty damn reliable....probably some of the best subaru's built. 900 isn't a bad price. Is it auto or manual trans?

You can read the ECU codes via the instructions on my site www.surrealmirage.com/subaru go to notes & tips, engine related.

Also, check out www.bbs.legacycentral.org You'll find tons of info about the first gen legacy.
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Old 06-13-2005, 10:24 PM   #3
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It's a 5-speed.

The rear right door is kinda messed up and the paint leaves something to be desired in some areas, and I guess the throw out bearing is "making some noise" but I didn't hear it when I was driving. It idles nice and I had it up to 5K with no problems.
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Old 06-14-2005, 09:23 AM   #4
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What area of the country do you live? If it's in a "subaru" climate area, then 900 is probably still reasonable. If it's somewhere down south, that price is a little high especially with throwout bearing issues.
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Old 06-14-2005, 03:41 PM   #5
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I live in Washington State. So yeah, we're in Subby land... but as far as the throw out bearing issue, I didn't hear any noise at all.

The CEL light flashes, but the car doesn't overheat and doesn't appear to be leaking or burning too much oil. No smoke at idle and the only oil stains are near the filler tube where it either is leaking or someone spilled oil when they were filling it up.

Also, the headlights are fogged I think. But isn't there a way to de-fog plastic?

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Old 06-14-2005, 06:26 PM   #6
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check out my site. I have instructions on how to pull the ECU codes.
www.surrealmirage.com/subaru go to notes & tips, engine related

Are the headlights yellowed or fogged with moisture inside of them?

If they're yellowed/fogged, check out this thread and what I did
http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=739
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Old 06-14-2005, 09:24 PM   #7
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I'm thinking about buying it tomorrow... gonna make the plunge.

Do you think I'll regret buying my first Subaru?
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Old 06-14-2005, 10:25 PM   #8
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I doubt it. The first gen legacies are pretty easy to work on in comparison to most other cars I've worked on, if you need to work on it.

Hell, I've practically disassembled my entire car. I've had the interior gutted, the entire drivetrain out, as well as the gas tank, all the suspension has been replaced, plus brakes, and will be swapping in a turbo motor this summer.

There's really not much more to take apart...possibly remove the dash....but that'd suck
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:24 PM   #9
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Another question... is the EJ22 an interference motor?

I'm thinking about removing the timing belt cover and checking the belts if it is, but I don't really want to waste my time doing that before buying the car if it's non-interference.
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Old 06-15-2005, 02:15 AM   #10
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$900 is good.........buuuttttt....still be prepared to spend another $500 or so.

A $900 wagon will need brakes, general tune up and various little items that all add up.

But then you have a decent vehicle!

If you are pretty handy, you can replace the clutch and completely rebuild the engine (rebuilt heads, new gaskets and seals, new clutch) for about $500. My wifes Ebay $425 sedan is now a $1000 "new" sedan that way.
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Old 06-15-2005, 02:18 AM   #11
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:48 AM   #12
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Yeah, I'm just going to drive it until it needs new stuff and then fix it.

The brakes felt really strong and the ABS worked well.

The engine sounded healthy too, but I'm confident enough in my abilities to fix the car with the exception of the AC which is R12 I understand... and unless the conversion to R134 is cheap(er) I don't think I'll have AC...
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Old 06-15-2005, 11:13 PM   #13
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The ej22 engines are non-interference, so if the timing belt goes, it won't damage anything.

As for the AC. You can do the conversion for roughly the cost of a new receiver/drier, brake cleaner to clean things out, pag 100 oil, and the cost of a shop to vacuum the system, and put 134a in. I've got a write up on the legacycentral bbs. it's pretty complete. The only thing I'd do differently is use PAG 100 oil rather then esther 100 oil.
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:24 AM   #14
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Well, the car sold, without me being the buyer...

But I DID find out why the CEL was flashing.

It was a code 35, which I guess is some solenoid that controls the emissions of excess fumes or something like that. Probably to re-burn some gas or something? No idea what it does, but it didn't seem too teribly important.

I'll just keep looking...
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:43 PM   #15
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canister purge solenoid.....yeah it's not too important....
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