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Old 08-05-2001, 03:26 PM   #1
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Hey, does anyone know what happened to the intake coming from Compass motorsports. I thought it would be out in july/august.

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Old 08-05-2001, 04:24 PM   #2
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We are working almost feverishly to get the first few production units out to the market. The first one is functionally finished, but still needs some beautification.(polishing, etc...) There are several other units in the various stages of incompletion, and we are working on getting them done ASAP. I should have pictures either later today or within the next few days at the latest. Everyone on my crew has other full time jobs, so we work on the intakes and other items after our normal lives. The price will be a little higher than we initially estimated as we are switching one of the materials to Carbon Fiber/Kevlar in the interest of strength and longevity. I appreciate your patience in waiting for us to get these done. I fully believe that it will be worth the wait. Thank you very much!
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Old 08-06-2001, 12:34 AM   #3
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Cool!

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Old 08-06-2001, 01:26 AM   #4
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How is this intake going to be setup? I have heard that it will actually use the ram air scoop. If so have you gotten rid of the problem of water getting in there?
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Old 08-06-2001, 02:57 AM   #5
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We use the hood scoop for secondary cooling, after running the car, the top of the intake is still cool to the touch. It will pull cold air in from the fender holes, and uses a box to keep the hot engine air from getting into the filter area. Pictures will be up on the web early this week, we have finished some of the polishing procedure and will finish the rest early in the week. Thanks again,
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Old 08-06-2001, 03:54 AM   #6
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I was just wondering if the hood scoop will be necessary for the intake to work properly ie. will I be able to use it on my '02 RS.

I've been holding off in buying a CAI until the Compass one was done so I hope I haven't waited for nothing.
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Old 08-06-2001, 10:36 AM   #7
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Hi everyone - I've been fortunate enough to see some preliminary pics, and it looks like Gary has done extensive research to actually get GAINS out of this intake and not just a cool sound. You should be happy with your decision to wait for him to get this piece fine tuned, as I'm fairly confident it'll show some major real world gains(as far as NA intakes are concerned). Keep up the good work Gary.

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Old 08-06-2001, 11:51 AM   #8
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Yes your 02' should be just fine. When we did the dyno testing the hood was up, and we were sitting still. So the dyno results do not incorporate any cooling effects that an open scoop would give you. I have decided to change the "cold air box" material to a Carbon Fiber/Kevlar mix in the interest of longevity and strength. This will add to the price of the kit, but I feel that it will be worth it in the long run. I am working on that box today. So some pics will be up later today or tomorrow. Thank you again for all your patience.
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Old 08-06-2001, 12:40 PM   #9
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I would be interested with a heads up when you have a product, sounds interesting... I am looking for some alternate solutions to what is currently on the market.

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Old 08-07-2001, 01:05 PM   #10
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Here again is a picture of the almost finished intake system. Not shown in the picture is the cold air box that I am working on right now. I await any comments, questions, and opinions that you may have. Thank you,

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Old 08-07-2001, 01:17 PM   #11
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how much is this system?
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Old 08-07-2001, 01:32 PM   #12
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would it make a difference if there were fins on the box (like an IC) for additional cooling?

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Old 08-07-2001, 01:55 PM   #13
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I don't feel that cooling fins would really help that much, at least not enough to offset the cost of adding them. Speaking of cost this system will run about $285, it may vary a little bit depending on shipping. The box in the picture uses all existing emissions and crankcase hoses that attach to the factory box, and also uses the factory filter box supports and bolts. The dyno results for this system can be seen at COMPASS MOTORSPORTS in the new projects page. Thank you.
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Old 08-07-2001, 02:14 PM   #14
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does that include the filter and cold air box? (what is that anyway?)

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Old 08-07-2001, 02:28 PM   #15
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Yes that includes the filter and "Cold Air Box", the box separates the filter from the heat of the engine bay. So you don't suck in hot air, only cold air from the fender holes. That price includes all the things needed to hook up the intake, other than the stock items that you would reuse.
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Old 08-07-2001, 02:32 PM   #16
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I get it, like heatshield for the airbox? and that's carbon fiber/kevlar (cold air box)?

Haig

PS Sorry about all the questions, but I'm really interested in this thing.
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Old 08-07-2001, 02:32 PM   #17
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That thing looks cooooool. I want one. Is there a waiting list. I'd like to be one of the first to own one of theses. Gary. Send
me a PM or something and tell me where to sign up. I'd love to try one of these baby's out.
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Old 08-07-2001, 02:40 PM   #18
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Yeah, it looks like you 2000+ owners are gonna get first dibs again...I have no fear though. I'm waiting for this intake no matter what. The numbers are just too good, and how sweet is a carbon/kevlar cold air box gonna look!!

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Old 08-07-2001, 02:40 PM   #19
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Damn. That's pretty impressive. I have a question about the dyno results, though.
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The baseline run showed a peak Horsepower of 170.8HP @ 5500rpm and a peak Torque of 183.4ft/lbs @ 3750rpm. The second run showed a very nice improvement in both horsepower and torque, with peak horsepower up to 185.4HP @ 5500rpm and peak torque up to 196.3ft/lbs @ 3750rpm. Total gains were tallied at 14.6HP and 12.9ft/lbs of torque. One other thing that is not mentioned but very evident is a spike in torque around 2700 to 2800rpm. This can be seen on the charts.
In the numbers you are quoting, did you adjust for drivetrain loss, or is this at the wheels? What gear were these runs done in, and what year car? What was the temperature outside at the time they were run?

Thanks in advance for the answers. I'm interested in getting one of these.
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Old 08-07-2001, 03:14 PM   #20
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The car that we tested this system on was my 00' 2.5RS, it was around 65 degrees or so, raining and cloudy. The test was performed on a Mustang 4-wheel dyno, and the runs were all done in 4th gear, the numbers shown are SAE calculated for the flywheel, however they did a parasitic loss test to do the calculations with, and also inputed the cars weight, etc... The baseline run was done with the stock air filter box in place minus the tubing that runs to the fender, and replaced with a rubber elbow that points toward the hood scoop. There seems to be some debate on whether or not taking that tubing off makes more or less power. I do not know for sure, however when I did this modification on my car, I did drop a few hundredths of a second of my 1/4 mile times. So that debate is still open until I can get back to the dyno...
If you would like to order this system for your car, then you can reach me at
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Old 08-07-2001, 03:29 PM   #21
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Wow, they look great. Hope it will fit my 95 L 1.8...Will it?
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Old 08-07-2001, 03:54 PM   #22
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Thanks for the quick reply.
One more question: Where is the filter, and what kind of filter is it?

Thanks again.
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Old 08-07-2001, 04:12 PM   #23
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Thank you, we are designing a similar intake for the 99' and older cars that use the MAF. I do not see any reason why this intake wouldn not fit on the older 1.8L and 2.2L Imprezas. This will also work for any 2.5L powered Subaru. (Legacy and Forester)
It uses an S&B filter which is exactly the same design as a K&N filter. It is a cotton guaze cone filter with a million mile replacement warranty. It is located just behind and above the ABS pump and in front of the strut tower. The "cold air box" that is not pictured will shield the filter from the hot engine air. I will post pictures of that as soon as we get it done. Thanks again,
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Old 08-07-2001, 04:52 PM   #24
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Gary,

Have you tried using a PRM filter and have it tap into the front fender? Seems like that would be easier & more efficient than a heat shield.

Just my .02

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PRM filters are so expensive and hard to get a hold of. This kit would be way to much $ with a PRM.

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