Borla Single Port Installation Problem

Kevin Thomas · 06-18-2005, 04:21 PM

I just got a Borla Singe Port Header for my Impreza yesterday and went about installing it today.

So I go about oiling down the header bolts and the bolts to the exhaust when I noticed something. My oil pan has a welded oil line going to it that passes right underneath one of my header bolts.

I had the wagon turbod........twice....but now I'm running N/A. I wanted to test out the Borla header on a dyno so I can show results from mere mortals like us instead of from Cobb or another vendor. So I ask.......

What's involved in removing the oil pan? Seems simply like the bolts on it and perhaps another item or two. I just wanted to swap out my header and go to the dyno. I didn't expect this and my time to play with these things are short these days. I was trying to have this done before picking my wife and son up today from the mall. Any advice?

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Kostamojen · 06-18-2005, 10:54 PM

You are screwed man...

shoeler25 · 06-18-2005, 11:38 PM

Im guessing a wrench wont fit, like an open end or box? Or one of them nifty springdrive ratchets? Im not sure on the oil pan thing, but I dont see why you cant remove it.

MPREZYA · 06-19-2005, 02:04 AM

Bend it out of the way. Looks like my old JC Sports turbo oil pan I had on my coupe.
It should be flexible enough to move out of the way to get that bolt.

Kevin Thomas · 06-19-2005, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZYA

Bend it out of the way. Looks like my old JC Sports turbo oil pan I had on my coupe.
It should be flexible enough to move out of the way to get that bolt.

Ah, this is what I wanted to know. I tried bending it a little and was uneasy about breaking the line altogether.

shoeler25,
It's so close that nothing will fit in between. There isn't enough room for the bolt to come off. If it is bendable though, I'll try that route. Hopefully, the line doesn't break off. The car is still setup for turbo installation, just in case I get the 'need a boost blues' again.

Thanks!

shoeler25 · 06-19-2005, 05:20 PM

Hmm, hard to tell just how much room from those pics. Let us know how it turns out. Good luck.

GuyLR · 06-19-2005, 07:17 PM

Why not just pull the pan? It's no biggie unless the other end of that oil line is not free.

Kevin Thomas · 06-19-2005, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuyLR

Why not just pull the pan? It's no biggie unless the other end of that oil line is not free.

I ended up just pulling on that oil line and praying it didn't break off. Luckily I was able to just get by it, scraping and cursing. It's installed now. One of the studs came out and refuses to get back in though. So I need to reinstall that stud. Also, where the header meets the cat converter, it's not sealed properly. I know better and should've just had new gaskets but I did not. I'll finish it off another day. It's on though.....and I *cough* don't like the sound. It has a slight leak though so I'll know what's what when I get it completely sealed. I done for today though.

Thanks!

It all doesn't matter about the sound really. I purchased it simply because I want to dyno test it. The stock cat converter and it's puny piping seems like it is going to hurt performance though. I wish Random Tech wasn't the only name in town for our cars.

shoeler25 · 06-20-2005, 12:23 AM

I hear that about cats, although I personally dont find anything wrong with Random Tech, it would be nice for a couple choices, COBB doesnt count, cause im not spending 1000 bucks for theyre header/cat section. Thing that would be even better for our cars, any car i spose, would be no stupid emission tests.

GuyLR · 06-20-2005, 08:06 AM

Let us know how it dynos. I've improved the low end torque, throttle response and willingness to pull to redline of the EJ22 in my OBS with a homebuilt intake and WRX catback but I'm wanting just a bit more.

Perdue · 06-20-2005, 03:44 PM

mine doesn't seal right against the cat-pipe either (I also have the Single Port Borla), and I DID buy a new OEM gasket. I am going to try and get 2 more brand new gaskets and double them up to see if that will seal it up. My header also cracked within 300 miles of install

, but that's a different story.

Kevin Thomas · 06-20-2005, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perdue

My header also cracked within 300 miles of install

, but that's a different story.

Wow! And I keep reading about the latest generation NOT having the cracking issues. Oh well!

BTW: Where did yours crack at?

G.Subramaniam · 06-20-2005, 09:03 PM

Rallispec has a fix for this
They put a flexible link in one of the arms of the header to relieve stress on the borla

Kevin Thomas · 06-20-2005, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.Subramaniam

Rallispec has a fix for this
They put a flexible link in one of the arms of the header to relieve stress on the borla

I guess I'll have to pay Dave at Rallispec a visit.

poormansporsche · 08-21-2005, 08:59 PM

How's the sound? I remember a while back i was asking you about the sound of the remus. I'm still thinking of getting one and getting another borla head again. How's the sound is it wicked loud? Maybe I'll do Borla header>RT cat>resonater>some mid pipe>another resonater>remus muffler I wonder how that would sound. I want resonably loud but not shouting at eachother in the car on the freeway.

My pops just got a contract to make a sound insulation kits for Sport Hauler semi trucks. He said he made a semi ride like a lexus. Still trying to him to make a sound insulation kit for the impreza. Not that he'd sell very many tho.

cheers

garrett

06-18-2005, 04:21 PM	#1
Kevin Thomas Street Racing Instructor Moderator Member#: 110 Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: 1997 OBS, 1996 SVX, 1988 RX Vehicle: 1989 1989 XT6	Borla Single Port Header Installation Problem I just got a Borla Singe Port Header for my Impreza yesterday and went about installing it today. So I go about oiling down the header bolts and the bolts to the exhaust when I noticed something. My oil pan has a welded oil line going to it that passes right underneath one of my header bolts. I had the wagon turbod........twice....but now I'm running N/A. I wanted to test out the Borla header on a dyno so I can show results from mere mortals like us instead of from Cobb or another vendor. So I ask....... What's involved in removing the oil pan? Seems simply like the bolts on it and perhaps another item or two. I just wanted to swap out my header and go to the dyno. I didn't expect this and my time to play with these things are short these days. I was trying to have this done before picking my wife and son up today from the mall. Any advice? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by Kevin Thomas; 06-19-2005 at 01:32 PM.

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