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Old 06-22-2005, 07:14 AM   #1
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I bought a set of hella 500s to go in the stock fog location and am very disapointed in the output. Barely notice at all! (I also have very nice and bright HIDs so that makes em not so great as well) Total waste of money.

Should I got a 100w-+ bulb for them or replace em w/ 1000's?

Should I put fog or driving 1000's in place of the 500's?

Also, what lights should I put on my rally innovations(sp) front bar for the best light output? 1000s pencil or driving. The HIDs already work wonders so I need some more light even beyond that.

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Old 06-22-2005, 12:08 PM   #2
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Well, if you've already got HIDs in your regular headlamps, the Hella 500s won't make much of a difference... (they're great for the rest of us with plain ol' halogen bulbs though)

If you've got the $$$ to throw down, i say pick up a set of Hella FF1000 HID driving lamps and put those in the foglamp spots.

I don't think the RI bar can hold FF1000s though...
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:05 PM   #3
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ya... that's wat I was thinkin as well. HID driving lights are quite expensive. :/ Any other input guys?
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:36 PM   #4
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hmm where to start.

If you have the 500s in fog, adjust them down so that they are doing their job as fogs. If you are using 500s in driving, and they are not making much impact, use 100w bulbs and carefully adjust them so as not to blind anyone with eyeballs coming toward you.

500's or any other driving light in that very low (stock) position doesn't help as much compared mounting them higher up, as in above the bumper level.

Moving to 1000FF driving could be helpful, but depending on the output from your headlights, this will only make a difference much farther down the road.

moving to the light bar.

I am pretty sure that the FF1000s fit in the lightbar...if you have an '04 or '05 lightbar. They will not fit in the lower portion of the light bar if you have anything else. Now if you have anything else, I suggest that you mount the FF1000s on top of the bar to get the most use of the driving lights.

As for using Pencil beams, unless you run as many lights as Psydotek, then they are pretty useless, they are very narrow and don't cover much width, but boy do they go down the road.

just my $0.02



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Old 06-24-2005, 04:44 AM   #5
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I'm thinkin now FF1000s on the bar... but what watage bulbs? I wanna get as much light output as I can since they won't be used but like 2 hours at most a week.

I'm thinkin of getting some of those yellow bulbs. (name slipped my head) How much/where can I get em at?

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Old 06-24-2005, 09:03 AM   #6
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100w bulbs work well with the FF1000s. There's also the Yellowstar bulbs for poor weather. They actually work very well in driving lamps when it's raining (since rain can wash out even the best HID lamps).
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Old 06-24-2005, 11:45 AM   #7
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don't the FF1000s come with 100W H1's?

If not start looking for H1 bulbs that fit. Stay away from things that say HID like, superduper white, ultra blue.

www.rallylights.com and www.danielsternlighting.com

and if you're desperate and like waiting www.suvlights.com

but if the FF1000s come with 100w, I would suggest using those, before you go blowing money on bulbs.

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Nope, the FF1000 kit comes with 55w bulbs. However, the harness that's included with the kit has been reported to be compatible with 100w bulbs.
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Old 06-24-2005, 11:56 AM   #9
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Nope, the FF1000 kit comes with 55w bulbs. However, the harness that's included with the kit has been reported to be compatible with 100w bulbs.

I must be recalling the stock bulbs in the Hella 4000 kit then. I know those are 100W.



excuse my advancing alzhiemers-ness. I am getting kinda old ya know.

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Can I run 85W yellowstars in the fogs safely? 100w? When would I need to beef up the wires?

Thanks for all the help.
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Old 06-24-2005, 08:57 PM   #11
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Can I run 85W yellowstars in the fogs safely? 100w? When would I need to beef up the wires?

Thanks for all the help.
Personally I think you should be fine. But if you have the time, you should just rewire it and throw in its own relay, use heavier gauge wire and shorter ground to help give the lights as much juice as possible. Rewiring isn't just a safety issue, it can be a performance issue, you need to provide the lights with as much power as it needs to perform at its best.

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Can I run 85W yellowstars in the fogs safely? 100w? When would I need to beef up the wires?

Thanks for all the help.
i did in my gc8 for about 2 years
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Ha... I remember you crazy light set up at the state meet. I asked you about em when you were pullin out.
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Zack,

Pics of your car when you get the light bar would be appreciated! Ant help with lighting configurations....just ask the pros....Rapid_Roo and Psydotek.

Thanks!

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I'm thinkin now FF1000s on the bar... but what watage bulbs? I wanna get as much light output as I can since they won't be used but like 2 hours at most a week.

I'm thinkin of getting some of those yellow bulbs. (name slipped my head) How much/where can I get em at?

Thanks,
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Hey Marvin!

I was just looking at your cartoon! I want one for my car! Your bar is at the powder coaters.

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hmm where to start.

If you have the 500s in fog, adjust them down so that they are doing their job as fogs. If you are using 500s in driving, and they are not making much impact, use 100w bulbs and carefully adjust them so as not to blind anyone with eyeballs coming toward you.

500's or any other driving light in that very low (stock) position doesn't help as much compared mounting them higher up, as in above the bumper level.

Moving to 1000FF driving could be helpful, but depending on the output from your headlights, this will only make a difference much farther down the road.

moving to the light bar.

I am pretty sure that the FF1000s fit in the lightbar...if you have an '04 or '05 lightbar. They will not fit in the lower portion of the light bar if you have anything else. Now if you have anything else, I suggest that you mount the FF1000s on top of the bar to get the most use of the driving lights.

As for using Pencil beams, unless you run as many lights as Psydotek, then they are pretty useless, they are very narrow and don't cover much width, but boy do they go down the road.

just my $0.02



and if you need anything else there is this place: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673117
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Ha... I remember you crazy light set up at the state meet. I asked you about em when you were pullin out.
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fogs should be used for inclement weather, in which case your HIDs will cause so much glare you'll be lucky to see the effects of the fogs.

try driving lights and see if they give you the effects you're looking for.
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