So I got Sylvania silver stars put in......

KnightWRX · 06-23-2005, 04:12 PM

So, I got the Sylvania Silver Stars a few days ago. I was really looking for bulbs that from a distance look that "purplish/weird color" but once you get closer they just look pure white.

First impressions of the bulbs are that they are in fact a pure white color and yes it does light up way more than my stockers did, but I cant exactly park my car with the lights on......run 100 yards down the street just to see if the color shifts from a distance.

So my questions are these.....

1) Do real HID's have a color change?

and

2) Does anyone have Sylvanias "cool blue" bulbs and would I be able to tell they are a blueish color when driving. How is the visibility compared with the silver stars.

Michael

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popnfresh · 06-23-2005, 04:17 PM

hids will be bluish until they warm up, then they will be white or white/blue depending on what temperature they run at (4300k 6000k)

i think you are talking about the look that cars like audis have, from far away they look to be purple, blue and white all at the same time. i think this has more to do with the way the projector is made, and not necesarily the HID itself.

Uncle Ben · 06-23-2005, 05:26 PM

Exactly... that color shift you are looking for has to be coming out of a projector lens type setup. Even an HID retrofit in a reflector housing will look the same color from every angle, it's the projector cutoff that makes it change color.

I had the Cool Blues, didn't like them... they lit up dimmer than the Silverstars and IMO was just another blue-tinted superwhite headlight bulb.

KnightWRX · 06-23-2005, 05:36 PM

cool...well thanks guys. Yeah the Audi's and such are the cars that Im thinking about. And also, thanks for the heads up on the cool blues. So they are not "blue" light at all then huh?

Michael

Xymox · 06-23-2005, 06:09 PM

So you guys running Silver Stars, are you overly pleased compared to the standard bulbs? Or is this just slightly better (albeit more expensive) than the standard bulbs?

Uncle Ben · 06-23-2005, 11:55 PM

Its just slightly better, I don`t see honestly how a standard 55w halogen bulb can be THAT much better no matter how well they engineer it. That said, I think the Silverstars are worth the extra few dollars though, the bright white color is nice.

Xymox, are you the same one that used to frequent VWVortex?

Handsdown · 06-24-2005, 12:33 AM

It's marginally better, as in- not really worth it. the coating on sylvania silverstars is purplish-blue, but it's mainly there to filter out the yellowish light that makes regular halogens seem not white.

they're nice, and they're engineered well, but they're not worth the extra money IMO.

the effects really fade after you've been looking at them for a while. when i put my stock bulbs back in, i was expecting much yellower output... and it's such a minute difference i don't think it's worth it.

if you disagree with me, look at your light output(from the driver's seat) with silverstars first, then switch back to regular halogen. everyone judges it from the other way around, and i think the results of the visual test are skewed.

that's coming from me, mr. "wow i just put them in and they're so much whiter and brighter"

eltrouble · 06-24-2005, 02:53 AM

Osram silverstars are more effective, they're not coated so they have a brighter look.

Xymox · 06-24-2005, 08:18 AM

Thanks for the "real life results" fellas. And yes, Uncle Ben, I'm Xymox from VWVortex (a long long time ago)

Uncle Ben · 06-24-2005, 01:54 PM

Damn, that makes me feel old :P

Eleazar · 06-25-2005, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eltrouble

Osram silverstars are more effective, they're not coated so they have a brighter look.

but do they make the osrame silverstars in 9007?

Handsdown · 06-25-2005, 06:33 PM

they used to, but they stopped making them so even the importers that used to have them are having trouble finding them, IIRC.

KnightWRX · 06-25-2005, 06:42 PM

I just put in Silverstars this past week and they work just fine.....on both sides. However, last night I flipped on the highbeams on the way home and only the passenger side lights up. Once you flip them back to low, the drivers side turns back on.???

10 minutes later.....all of a sudden they work ok again. Then later in the evening back to the same 1 light thing happening.

Anyone have any suggestions on what the heck is the problem? If the wires were loose...or the bulb was loose wouldnt the low beams be cutting in and out as well on the drivers side.?

Michael

surferdude166 · 06-26-2005, 12:26 AM

search for daniel stern lighting that's where I got my osrams and I am sure he had a list of the bulbs he could get for you

ATX25RS · 06-26-2005, 01:57 AM

why dont you just get some morrettes and hids...solve all the problems

markadopolus · 06-26-2005, 02:10 AM

Teh silverstars IMO are a little better, But they are worse than the stockers in rain. The rain drops just soak up all the light. Thats why I also got yellow fog lights. I myself and others have noticed that one of your silverstars will burn out very fast. I disconnected my DRL's to make them last longer.

Handsdown · 06-26-2005, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnightWRX

I just put in Silverstars this past week and they work just fine.....on both sides. However, last night I flipped on the highbeams on the way home and only the passenger side lights up. Once you flip them back to low, the drivers side turns back on.???

blah blah blah

Michael

i'm assuming you have regular bugeye headlights, if that's so, your bulbs are 9007

which are dual filament, one for low and one for high.

so maybe the driver's side highbeam filament is burnt out?

or partially busted?

i don't know.

NF2 · 06-28-2005, 02:05 PM

i had silverstars for a while ,but they burnt out a lot quicker than stock bulbs. i was extra careful installing them, making sure not to touch anything, but they just dont last as long. i switched back to stock after going thru 3 sets.

eyehate · 06-28-2005, 10:01 PM

i have them in my fogs and they are much better than the stick lights imho!

rabbitnutz · 06-29-2005, 01:04 AM

only bulbs i can recomend are PIAA super plasma GT-X's. they have a ultra bright white/purple ish low beam, and super freaking pure white bright ass high beam. i love em.

ludecrous · 06-29-2005, 03:04 PM

Sylvanias "cool blue" bulbs are complete crap, don't waste your money, light output low.

doubledribble · 06-29-2005, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyehate

i have them in my fogs and they are much better than the stick lights imho!

there nice under normal driving conditions. they suck at what they are supposed to be used for. i had a fog set and one bulb blew within 2 months.

MtnGoat · 06-30-2005, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabitnutz

only bulbs i can recomend are PIAA super plasma GT-X's. they have a ultra bright white/purple ish low beam, and super freaking pure white bright ass high beam. i love em.

I have to agree

I have the PIAA Super Plasma also and
if the bluish look iswhat you are looking for
than Piaa is a good choice. They look great from
a distance and put off a nice lavender/blue color.
And the high beam IS a Insane bright white

cost is around 80 bucks. The PIAA site has good info.
Those cool blue lights are a waste of money

MtnGoat · 06-30-2005, 04:22 PM

Left side PIAA right side stock
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[img=http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4559/piaa26ps.th.jpg]

You can sorta tell

Blind Moose · 06-30-2005, 09:19 PM

I had the Sylvania Silver Stars in my 00' Outback and they lasted about 3 months before burning out. They were installed as per the instructions. I noticed the light was a bit whiter, but they didn't seem any brighter. I put the standard bulb back in and can't tell much of a difference between them.

06-23-2005, 04:12 PM	#1
KnightWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 41664 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Spring, TX Vehicle: 2002 WRX black	So I got Sylvania silver stars put in...... So, I got the Sylvania Silver Stars a few days ago. I was really looking for bulbs that from a distance look that "purplish/weird color" but once you get closer they just look pure white. First impressions of the bulbs are that they are in fact a pure white color and yes it does light up way more than my stockers did, but I cant exactly park my car with the lights on......run 100 yards down the street just to see if the color shifts from a distance. So my questions are these..... 1) Do real HID's have a color change? and 2) Does anyone have Sylvanias "cool blue" bulbs and would I be able to tell they are a blueish color when driving. How is the visibility compared with the silver stars. Michael * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

06-25-2005, 06:42 PM	#13
KnightWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 41664 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Spring, TX Vehicle: 2002 WRX black	highbeams mean.......only 1 light?? (shrug) 02 WRX I just put in Silverstars this past week and they work just fine.....on both sides. However, last night I flipped on the highbeams on the way home and only the passenger side lights up. Once you flip them back to low, the drivers side turns back on.??? 10 minutes later.....all of a sudden they work ok again. Then later in the evening back to the same 1 light thing happening. Anyone have any suggestions on what the heck is the problem? If the wires were loose...or the bulb was loose wouldnt the low beams be cutting in and out as well on the drivers side.? Michael

06-30-2005, 04:22 PM	#24
MtnGoat Scooby Specialist Member#: 86243 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Spokane, WA Vehicle: 2001 2.5RS brp 07 FXT Sports ugm	PIAA super plama Left side PIAA right side stock [IMG][/IMG] [img=http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4559/piaa26ps.th.jpg] You can sorta tell Last edited by MtnGoat; 06-30-2005 at 04:30 PM.

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popnfresh Scooby Newbie Member#: 72832 Join Date: Oct 2004	hids will be bluish until they warm up, then they will be white or white/blue depending on what temperature they run at (4300k 6000k) i think you are talking about the look that cars like audis have, from far away they look to be purple, blue and white all at the same time. i think this has more to do with the way the projector is made, and not necesarily the HID itself.

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KnightWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 41664 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Spring, TX Vehicle: 2002 WRX black	cool...well thanks guys. Yeah the Audi's and such are the cars that Im thinking about. And also, thanks for the heads up on the cool blues. So they are not "blue" light at all then huh? Michael

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Xymox Scooby Specialist Member#: 410 Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Somewhere in PA	So you guys running Silver Stars, are you overly pleased compared to the standard bulbs? Or is this just slightly better (albeit more expensive) than the standard bulbs?

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Uncle Ben * Banned * Member#: 28628 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Slurrey, B.C. Canada Vehicle: 2003 WRX Sedan World Rally Blue Pearl	Its just slightly better, I don`t see honestly how a standard 55w halogen bulb can be THAT much better no matter how well they engineer it. That said, I think the Silverstars are worth the extra few dollars though, the bright white color is nice. Xymox, are you the same one that used to frequent VWVortex?

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Handsdown Scooby Guru Member#: 29355 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 2003 GD6 Hate chall but i'mma maintain	It's marginally better, as in- not really worth it. the coating on sylvania silverstars is purplish-blue, but it's mainly there to filter out the yellowish light that makes regular halogens seem not white. they're nice, and they're engineered well, but they're not worth the extra money IMO. the effects really fade after you've been looking at them for a while. when i put my stock bulbs back in, i was expecting much yellower output... and it's such a minute difference i don't think it's worth it. if you disagree with me, look at your light output(from the driver's seat) with silverstars first, then switch back to regular halogen. everyone judges it from the other way around, and i think the results of the visual test are skewed. that's coming from me, mr. "wow i just put them in and they're so much whiter and brighter"

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Xymox Scooby Specialist Member#: 410 Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Somewhere in PA	Thanks for the "real life results" fellas. And yes, Uncle Ben, I'm Xymox from VWVortex (a long long time ago)

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ATX25RS Scooby Guru Member#: 4597 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Laredo, Texas Vehicle: 2011 Mitsu Outlander Sport (Ex-Suby owner X3)	why dont you just get some morrettes and hids...solve all the problems

06-26-2005, 02:10 AM	#16
markadopolus Scooby Guru Member#: 69586 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: International	Teh silverstars IMO are a little better, But they are worse than the stockers in rain. The rain drops just soak up all the light. Thats why I also got yellow fog lights. I myself and others have noticed that one of your silverstars will burn out very fast. I disconnected my DRL's to make them last longer.

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NF2 Scooby Newbie Member#: 51443 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: from NJ now PA,Bartonsville Vehicle: in search of ave. P in PA	i had silverstars for a while ,but they burnt out a lot quicker than stock bulbs. i was extra careful installing them, making sure not to touch anything, but they just dont last as long. i switched back to stock after going thru 3 sets.

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ludecrous Scooby Specialist Member#: 19376 Join Date: May 2002 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: chi town Vehicle: 2003 03 WRX Wagon silver	Sylvanias "cool blue" bulbs are complete crap, don't waste your money, light output low.

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Blind Moose Scooby Newbie Member#: 90037 Join Date: Jun 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Kalamazoo, MI Vehicle: 2008 WRX	I had the Sylvania Silver Stars in my 00' Outback and they lasted about 3 months before burning out. They were installed as per the instructions. I noticed the light was a bit whiter, but they didn't seem any brighter. I put the standard bulb back in and can't tell much of a difference between them.