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Old 07-03-2005, 06:10 PM   #1
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whre can i find out what kind of additional power it yields?

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Old 07-03-2005, 07:11 PM   #2
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but the general notion around here is that it's a lot of money and there's just not a lot of performance to be gained by it.
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Old 07-03-2005, 07:20 PM   #3
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but the general notion around here is that it's a lot of money and there's just not a lot of performance to be gained by it.
Really? 10whp/10tq isn't too bad. And it appears that when you have additional supporting mods there may be even more to gain.

http://rallitek.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674

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Old 07-03-2005, 07:28 PM   #4
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oh wow, when it was still in development they were saying it would be at least 700 bucks. for <400 it's actually not that bad of a deal. i stand corrected.
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:11 PM   #5
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whre can i find out what kind of additional power it yields?

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Are you asking about Rallitek's Perfect Power? If so, then you will not find a cheaper engine management that actually works than the Perfect Power. If you have any of the basic mods you should defineately considering some sort of engine management like Perfect Power. I have emphasized this many times on other threads because of the huge gains that I have seen with my own car.
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:25 PM   #6
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I agree, the perfect power is amazing, i have it on my 05 rs...even stock, i could feel a damn good difference for just typing in a few numbers. I never got to experience it with a good set up of bolt ons, but if you do have intake and exhaust done, i definitely recommend you get the PP to correct your air fuel ratios and make your ride even sweeter.
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:58 PM   #7
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hmm, i may look into this.
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:24 PM   #8
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oh wow, when it was still in development they were saying it would be at least 700 bucks. for <400 it's actually not that bad of a deal. i stand corrected.
yeaaaa but then you need the car dynoed and tuned, but depending where you live price for that can vary

on the east coast by me itll cost a ton to dyno and wait for awhile
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:33 PM   #9
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how does it affect the warranty?
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:35 PM   #10
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your joking right...

this is wired into your ecu, wave bye bye to warranty since id mean changin AF ratios and what not to the engine
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:37 PM   #11
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Some are PnP but the 400 one is wired in....so you'll never not know beacuse all they need to do is look at the wiring and see it's all hacked up...
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Old 07-04-2005, 10:00 AM   #12
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Old 07-06-2005, 07:15 PM   #13
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I have the Perfect Power too... love it... I tried to do a clamp based version first but it didn't work out too well. I did get a bridge from them though to bypass the ecu if you ever needed to. As far as warrenty issues go... I always heard they can't legally void it unless the part they're replacing was shown to be damaged by the direct fault of a mod. And then it's not the full warrenty just on that part. So say if you did ecu mods and had a suspension problem that was under it they'd still have to fix it.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:23 PM   #14
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Does anyone make a patch cord with two connectors and a few inches of wire so that the soldering can be done to the patch cord. Not the factory harness? That way is can be removed. I am sure someone has thought of this but why is it not done? It seems it would be ideal.

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Old 07-07-2005, 02:29 PM   #15
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Does anyone make a patch cord with two connectors and a few inches of wire so that the soldering can be done to the patch cord. Not the factory harness? That way is can be removed. I am sure someone has thought of this but why is it not done? It seems it would be ideal.

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I think that someone mentioned this in the rallitek forumn, but the problem was that if one of the wires were to come loose, your could really screw up your tune. It still seems like a good idea to me though, but I am one of those worries too
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:33 PM   #16
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So the big questions I have are:
A: does it remove CELs?
B: can you still do OBD-ii emissions testing with it in place?
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:36 PM   #17
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So the big questions I have are:
A: does it remove CELs?
B: can you still do OBD-ii emissions testing with it in place?
I know that it doesn't remove CELs. As for the OBD-II testing I don't know, I would like to know too. We need Rallitek to chime in and give us some more lowdown.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:03 PM   #18
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I have the PerfectPower with the Secret Weapon intake, great combo! I got the PP first, and it makes a very noticable difference. Peviously, I had a ProECM on it, and the PP blows that away.

As for the OBD-II testing, yes, you can still do the emissions testing with it. It alters the siganals the ECU sees, but the ECU is still there and working, so it's no problem.

Also, for tuning, you don' have to dyno tune it. If you have a lapyop, you can datalog and go for a drive, then watch the playback, and tune it yourself. That's what I do, and it's pretty easy to use the software.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:09 PM   #19
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I will have to seriously consider this route. Unless the sky falls and Cobb has their reflash available by their meet in September, I think Ralli-tek may get my hard earned dollars...
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:20 PM   #20
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I have the PerfectPower with the Secret Weapon intake, great combo! I got the PP first, and it makes a very noticable difference. Peviously, I had a ProECM on it, and the PP blows that away.

As for the OBD-II testing, yes, you can still do the emissions testing with it. It alters the siganals the ECU sees, but the ECU is still there and working, so it's no problem.

Also, for tuning, you don' have to dyno tune it. If you have a lapyop, you can datalog and go for a drive, then watch the playback, and tune it yourself. That's what I do, and it's pretty easy to use the software.
Thanks for the info. I could not remember if the OBD-II testing was an issue. I had heard that tunin the PP with a laptop was pretty straight forward, good to know.
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I don't have a CEL with mine... if you're getting a CEL otherwise you'll need some type of fix... emmissions should pass since the fuel ratio is cleaner and all the obd sensors still work.

My friend Troy and I tried to do the clamp/bypass route so we wouldn't have to solder... just use vampire clamps... didn't work... this unit is MUCH more stable soldered. The tuning software is awesome and a bit more straight forward than a Link but does everything in the open loop you'd need it to. Also when the SMT7 comes out you can run both at the same time (according to perfect power) and use the unique features from both chips... and I think the 7 will allow closed loop and is a bit more geared towards turbo apps. It's a freaking awesome chip hands down
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Old 07-08-2005, 10:32 AM   #22
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yeaaaa but then you need the car dynoed and tuned, but depending where you live price for that can vary

on the east coast by me itll cost a ton to dyno and wait for awhile
No worries. I already have dyno tuned/tested maps for most setups. Granted a bit more power can usually be had by a custom dyno tune, but RalliTEK has already been building maps.
One of my favorite features in our RalliTEK PerfectPower is the data logger, and the very easy to use windows software. You get to play back everything in slow motion or frame by frame. Very cool!

More info in the PerfectPower / RalliTuning areas of www.rallitek.net

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Old 07-08-2005, 11:29 AM   #23
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What kind of information do you get when you data log? What are the benefits of the new SMT7 that will be coming out vs the SMT6? Thanks for posting.
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:31 AM   #24
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P/P has too many benefits to list. For the price its worth it. guarenteed
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Old 07-08-2005, 12:43 PM   #25
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What kind of information do you get when you data log? What are the benefits of the new SMT7 that will be coming out vs the SMT6? Thanks for posting.
The new one is more for turbo specific apps. It will be quite a bit more money, and I don't think it is really going to offer benefits to N/A people.

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