Luke@Tire-rack Discount?

Paisan · 08-08-2001, 11:49 PM

Hey Luke do we get a discount on tires? I just bought 4 Kumho V700s 205-55-14s for my XT6, ordered monday, shipped tues, had my shop put them on today.

If we get a discount could you contact me about it, cause I'd like to get it. Also I noticed that 2 of my tires are not turning in the proper direction according to the sidewall. Was I supposed to order different ones for each side? Thanks in advance.

-mike

North Ursalia · 08-09-2001, 02:30 AM

No we don't and the shop mounted 2 of them wrong on the wheels... get them to remove them and reinstall them on the rims

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Paisan · 08-09-2001, 08:44 AM

How did they mount them incorrectly?

If they swap 2 of them, then they'll still be wrong. The only way they could be mounted so that the "rotation" arrow goes the correct way, would be to get 2 new tires. They are mounted with the correct side facing out, just 2 of them have the rotational arrow going the wrong way.

-mike

omahasubaru · 08-09-2001, 09:14 AM

well... lets say its the front tires, the right side arrow is pointing to the rear, if you take off that wheel and mount it on the left side it will be facing forward, thus the correct direction.

It the left side tire has the arrow pointing to the rear for rotation and you swap it to the right side, it will now also be pointing forward.

Now if two tires on one side are facing the wrong direction and they can't be mounted differently (inside different than outside) then your screwed

I don't know the tread pattern on the V700, but likely there are arrows on both sides of the tire, thus meaning the tire can be dismounted flipped and then will be facing the correct way.

Make sense at all??? Oh and BTW we don't get any discount from tirerack for being i-clubbers. I've asked already.

Good luck with your rotation issues.

Jon

MY99 2.5GT · 08-09-2001, 09:24 AM

Just for everyones information we Don't get a discount with TireRack.

I asked the same question when I ordered my Sumitomos.

Luke said - Our goal is to provide good prices and service for all of our customer rather than gives special privledges to a car club.

Brad

Paisan · 08-09-2001, 09:27 AM

Yes, it's the 2 left tires that are incorrectly facing rotation.

They are both mounted with the correct side facing outward "Mount this side outward" but the arrows go to the right where it says "Rotation", when they should be facing to the left.

I guess I'll just call up Tire Rack and ask them what the deal is.

What is the point in having a sponser if they don't give you discounts? Just seems kinda pointless IMHO. I'm more worried about my rotational issue than a discount though, cause I'm racing this Sunday and if they are incorrect, I'm really really screwed!

-mike

rkkwan · 08-09-2001, 10:22 AM

Hm... looking at the picture on Kumhousa.com, the V700 has seem like asymmetrical AND directional, which means you have to specify left and right tires. Tirerack's site is down so I can check there. I'm surprised, because that's a big hassle for people in competition, to have to store two different tires. Yikes.

-Ray

Paisan · 08-09-2001, 10:26 AM

Not to mention Tire-rack DIDN"T SPECIFY that there were left and right ones. I am gonna be super pissed cause I have aproximately zero time in my work schedule to send any tires back to them.

-mike

ColinL · 08-09-2001, 10:27 AM

guys, relax.

the victoracer v700 has been made in only 1-sided moldings for some time. (over a year, at least) kumho changed the recipe and didn't bother to change the molds, so they are all stamped for one side.

*ignore that stamp!*

you want to initially run them with the widest shoulder out, no matter which direction that might be rotating. you can mount & swap them to any position in this fashion.

some time after the "tread" disappears (exact timing depends on your tire wear patterns) you should have them re-mounted inside out and run them that way to even them out. a few well-prepared cars could wear the tire evenly and make this unnecessary... the vast majority will not.

Paisan · 08-09-2001, 10:31 AM

Just got off the phone with luke.

I vaguely remember reading exactly what Colin just posted, but couldn't re-find it. Luke verified that they did not have a rotational side v. non rotational side.

You guys must hammer poor luke, cause he was all ready to read me a quote from some press release. I was like "you don't have to recite it to me, just let me know if it's ok

"

All is good

-mike

Paisan · 08-09-2001, 10:35 AM

Once again, Colin *IS* the man!

-mike

08-08-2001, 11:49 PM	#1
Paisan Tri-State Track Instructor Moderator Member#: 197 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Edgewater, NJ & Caroga Lk, NY Vehicle: LGT Charity Liason CTS-V http://48hrs.info	Luke@Tire-rack Discount? Hey Luke do we get a discount on tires? I just bought 4 Kumho V700s 205-55-14s for my XT6, ordered monday, shipped tues, had my shop put them on today. If we get a discount could you contact me about it, cause I'd like to get it. Also I noticed that 2 of my tires are not turning in the proper direction according to the sidewall. Was I supposed to order different ones for each side? Thanks in advance. -mike

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08-09-2001, 02:30 AM	#2
North Ursalia Miss You Mom Oct 1940 - Feb 2008 Super Moderator Member#: 809 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees Vehicle: 2000 2.5 RS, 96 OBS, 95 Impreza L, 03 TS	No we don't and the shop mounted 2 of them wrong on the wheels... get them to remove them and reinstall them on the rims . Brian AIM: captaindamorgan ICQ: 84483950 http://www.northursalia.com http://www.imprezamods.com http://www.scoobymods.com IClub: Now with 20% more caffeine!

08-09-2001, 08:44 AM	#3
Paisan Tri-State Track Instructor Moderator Member#: 197 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Edgewater, NJ & Caroga Lk, NY Vehicle: LGT Charity Liason CTS-V http://48hrs.info	How did they mount them incorrectly? If they swap 2 of them, then they'll still be wrong. The only way they could be mounted so that the "rotation" arrow goes the correct way, would be to get 2 new tires. They are mounted with the correct side facing out, just 2 of them have the rotational arrow going the wrong way. -mike

08-09-2001, 09:14 AM	#4
omahasubaru Scooby Guru Member#: 1594 Join Date: Jun 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Gretna, NE	well... lets say its the front tires, the right side arrow is pointing to the rear, if you take off that wheel and mount it on the left side it will be facing forward, thus the correct direction. It the left side tire has the arrow pointing to the rear for rotation and you swap it to the right side, it will now also be pointing forward. Now if two tires on one side are facing the wrong direction and they can't be mounted differently (inside different than outside) then your screwed I don't know the tread pattern on the V700, but likely there are arrows on both sides of the tire, thus meaning the tire can be dismounted flipped and then will be facing the correct way. Make sense at all??? Oh and BTW we don't get any discount from tirerack for being i-clubbers. I've asked already. Good luck with your rotation issues. Jon

08-09-2001, 09:24 AM	#5
MY99 2.5GT Scooby Specialist Member#: 5030 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Frederick, MD, USA Vehicle: 1999 Legacy 2.5GT 03 WRX Wagoon 91 Legacy SS	Just for everyones information we Don't get a discount with TireRack. I asked the same question when I ordered my Sumitomos. Luke said - Our goal is to provide good prices and service for all of our customer rather than gives special privledges to a car club. Brad

08-09-2001, 09:27 AM	#6
Paisan Tri-State Track Instructor Moderator Member#: 197 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Edgewater, NJ & Caroga Lk, NY Vehicle: LGT Charity Liason CTS-V http://48hrs.info	Yes, it's the 2 left tires that are incorrectly facing rotation. They are both mounted with the correct side facing outward "Mount this side outward" but the arrows go to the right where it says "Rotation", when they should be facing to the left. I guess I'll just call up Tire Rack and ask them what the deal is. What is the point in having a sponser if they don't give you discounts? Just seems kinda pointless IMHO. I'm more worried about my rotational issue than a discount though, cause I'm racing this Sunday and if they are incorrect, I'm really really screwed! -mike

08-09-2001, 10:22 AM	#7
rkkwan Scooby Specialist Member#: 5596 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Southwest Houston, TX Vehicle: 2004 STi Aspen White	Hm... looking at the picture on Kumhousa.com, the V700 has seem like asymmetrical AND directional, which means you have to specify left and right tires. Tirerack's site is down so I can check there. I'm surprised, because that's a big hassle for people in competition, to have to store two different tires. Yikes. -Ray

08-09-2001, 10:26 AM	#8
Paisan Tri-State Track Instructor Moderator Member#: 197 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Edgewater, NJ & Caroga Lk, NY Vehicle: LGT Charity Liason CTS-V http://48hrs.info	Not to mention Tire-rack DIDN"T SPECIFY that there were left and right ones. I am gonna be super pissed cause I have aproximately zero time in my work schedule to send any tires back to them. -mike

08-09-2001, 10:27 AM	#9
ColinL Scooby Guru Member#: 114 Join Date: Jul 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Wichita, KS and Whoring, OT Vehicle: '03 Evo, Rice White '01 Erion CBR 929	guys, relax. the victoracer v700 has been made in only 1-sided moldings for some time. (over a year, at least) kumho changed the recipe and didn't bother to change the molds, so they are all stamped for one side. *ignore that stamp!* you want to initially run them with the widest shoulder out, no matter which direction that might be rotating. you can mount & swap them to any position in this fashion. some time after the "tread" disappears (exact timing depends on your tire wear patterns) you should have them re-mounted inside out and run them that way to even them out. a few well-prepared cars could wear the tire evenly and make this unnecessary... the vast majority will not.

08-09-2001, 10:31 AM	#10
Paisan Tri-State Track Instructor Moderator Member#: 197 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Edgewater, NJ & Caroga Lk, NY Vehicle: LGT Charity Liason CTS-V http://48hrs.info	Just got off the phone with luke. I vaguely remember reading exactly what Colin just posted, but couldn't re-find it. Luke verified that they did not have a rotational side v. non rotational side. You guys must hammer poor luke, cause he was all ready to read me a quote from some press release. I was like "you don't have to recite it to me, just let me know if it's ok " All is good -mike

08-09-2001, 10:35 AM	#11
Paisan Tri-State Track Instructor Moderator Member#: 197 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Edgewater, NJ & Caroga Lk, NY Vehicle: LGT Charity Liason CTS-V http://48hrs.info	Once again, Colin IS the man! -mike