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Old 02-03-2005, 09:34 PM   #1
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Is a 17x8.5 rim with a +52 offset workable on a old school 2.5RS or will it be im possible? is there no room in the wheel wells for it? I have coilovers versus Struts, so I have more clearance in that area.
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Old 02-03-2005, 10:02 PM   #2
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why would you want such wide wheels and get the normal size tire?
There's barely room for 225s under there as it is.
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Old 02-03-2005, 10:10 PM   #3
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I want to try and fit 235s or 245s How about a 17x8.5 +50?

I might try a 17x8 +46. I'm up for a challenge, that's why. As of right now I'm thinking of sticking 235/40/17s on my 17x7.5 TEs.

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Old 02-04-2005, 12:53 AM   #4
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what size tires do you have now?
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Old 02-04-2005, 02:46 AM   #5
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17x8 +38mm 245's work with a little rolling
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:17 AM   #6
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Keith,

I can only comment on the STi/ P1 suspension in the rear (with stock camber bolts).

225/ 45-17 will rub on the strut at +53 and on the fender at +48. If you remove the plastic molding thingy, the +48 is OK.

That might be useless info but I thought I'd chime in.

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Old 02-04-2005, 12:04 PM   #7
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Is a 17x8.5 rim with a +52 offset workable on a old school 2.5RS or will it be im possible? is there no room in the wheel wells for it? I have coilovers versus Struts, so I have more clearance in that area.
I don't think it would. If you run a 235 or 245 tire, I think it would rub the strut body unless you have a coilover with high wheel clearance. my 225/45/17 17x7.5 +50 comes EXTREMELY close to my rs-style body. On the wrx,I had 17x8 +44 with 245/45/17 azenis sports and it also came very close to the coilovers. Reference I was using when choosing my rims and offset was from someone on the forums name bassman running 17x8.5 +50 offset running 245 s03's with jic coilovers and said he had a couple of millimeters or centimeters clearance between the strut and tire
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:26 PM   #8
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Kanada, 17x8 +38mm is a bit ridiculous of an offset. I can get a 17x8 +46mm, or +48, etc. so that would probably be my last option. Thanks though.

Mike, the molding has already been removed (as per the Dragon like 2 years ago ) Next step is rolling the fenders.

I'm going to try 235/40/17s on my 17x7.5 TEs when spring rolls around. Then I'll be on the hunt for a 17x8 at least, see what I can come up with.

I've got JICs. I know I have issues on the body side. which is why I'm looking for a high offset rim. I'd probably be best off with like a 17x8 +48 or +50 offset

Its all about trial and error, right? I wish a couple people would let me borrow wheels or whatever. Maybe well see what spring brings. And I'll actually document things for the GC guys

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Kanada, 17x8 +38mm is a bit ridiculous of an offset. I can get a 17x8 +46mm, or +48, etc. so that would probably be my last option. Thanks though.

Mike, the molding has already been removed (as per the Dragon like 2 years ago ) Next step is rolling the fenders.

I'm going to try 235/40/17s on my 17x7.5 TEs when spring rolls around. Then I'll be on the hunt for a 17x8 at least, see what I can come up with.

I've got JICs. I know I have issues on the body side. which is why I'm looking for a high offset rim. I'd probably be best off with like a 17x8 +48 or +50 offset

Its all about trial and error, right? I wish a couple people would let me borrow wheels or whatever. Maybe well see what spring brings. And I'll actually document things for the GC guys

Keith
My friend has my old ce's in 17x8 +44 and i've been wanting to see if they rub on my new subaru. It'll be a little off since he's running 225's, but it'll give me a rough idea. I'll let you know when i do that.
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Old 02-04-2005, 07:17 PM   #10
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i think topdog is running 17x8.5" Rota Slipstreams with 255/40-17 Victorracers
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:13 AM   #11
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My friend has my old ce's in 17x8 +44 and i've been wanting to see if they rub on my new subaru. It'll be a little off since he's running 225's, but it'll give me a rough idea. I'll let you know when i do that.
The 17x8 CEs were what I orginally wanted. But I pretty sure +44 is cutting it way close. I know someone on the board had the 17x8s with 215/45/17s and were rubbing. I think mostly due to the fenders not being rolled. We'll see though.

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Old 02-05-2005, 08:10 PM   #12
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http://forums.ok-speed.com/showthread.php4?t=17494

don't know if you have to log in or not.. but yeah, on a my00
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:33 PM   #13
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i signed up and i still cant see the pics !!
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Old 02-06-2005, 09:13 PM   #14
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Old 02-07-2005, 06:35 PM   #15
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Those are HUGE... any rubbing?
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No, and THX. Here is a thread I had a while back.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684922

Those are 225 hoosier R3SO3's on a 17x8.5 +48mm Slipstream. That 225 is more like a normal 235 if not a 245 street tire. They generuos on the size.
I am going to be ordering tires soon. Either Kumho 245 v710's or 255 victorracers. Either way I will need a 1/4" spacer in the rear but not in the front as it will rub on the strut. I will run 1/4" spacers all around to keep the track the same front too rear. Rubbing will not be a problem as I know have the suspension setup for it with spring rates 500lbs/f and 600lbs/r.

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Old 02-07-2005, 09:59 PM   #17
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Ok, So a 17x8.5 +52mm rim would be way too much then, cause itll rub on the rear struts, and possibly front. So I should be looking for something a little bit more reasonable like a 17x8 w/ a +45 to +48 offset. What suspension setup do you have?

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my setup is got some custom stuff so it would be difficult to explain it all but here is a brief. Leda gas coilovers, springs 500lbs/front & 600lbs/rear, -3 degress camber front and -2 rear.
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Old 07-09-2005, 12:14 AM   #19
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This is old, but I figure I'd contribute a bit.

Car #1 MY00 2.5RS (not mine)
KYB AGX/Ground Control strut/spring setup
USDM STi BBS 17x7.5" +53 wheels
Bridgestone RE070 225/45/17 tires
Two-finger gap between tire and fender
No fender rolling has taken place

There is about 1/8" of the spring perch left on the strut body and clearance is really, really tight at the strut. Under normal street driving, there is no rubbing whatsoever. Under hard driving, there is slight rubbing on the inner rear fender with the sidewall side of the shoulder. For the fronts, there is rubbing on the inner fender (you know where... the top of the fender where the fender liner is... directly above where the tire sticks out when turning).

Car #2 MY96 L (mine)
D2 GC8 Coilovers F:7kg R:4kg
JDM STi V7 17x7.5" +53 wheels
Falken Azenis RT-215 225/45/17 tires
One and a half finger gap between tire and fender
No fender rolling has taken place

I'm still trying to fit these. Initially, with a correct pre-tension on my rear spring, there is slight rubbing on the spring just above the spring collar (it squeeked, but rotated). I looked at it for awhile and just decided to fit a 215/45 instead. With 255 whp, I really wanted the extra width, so tonight I went outside and looked again. One alternative I saw was to increase the pre-tension on my rear springs, effectively raising the spring collars. I slowly added more pre-tension on the spring until I cleared the spring. After adding an extra 7/8" pre-tension, I have about 3/16" clearance between the collar and the tire. Any additional height on the collar will give me even more coilover and tire clearance.

Since the tires are brand new and haven't been driven on, I'm going to make absolutely sure I can get a proper setup before I go driving on them. As of right now, as long as the extra spring tension is ok, it looks like they will be fine.

With a 17x7.5 and a 225/45/17, +53 is the MAX you can go. Any wider and you need to drop the offset and roll some fender.

-Jon
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