Wheel tape weights and 4wd

suby-brue · 07-08-2005, 02:24 PM

Hi I just got a set of tires/rims mounted (Fuzion ZRi 225/45R17 / Rota Torques) and the wheel shop said that they mounted fine - but the installer said that he used to have a Montero and Eagle Talon and thought that the wheel tape might not work as well as hammer on weights.

He offered for me to come back to have the hammer on weights if I had a vibration problem...

Anyone know if he's talking smack or any advice?

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WRXSleeper · 07-08-2005, 02:51 PM

the stick on weights work just fine. you can also have them put the hammer on weights on the inside of the rim, but certainly there should be none on the outside.

mbiker97 · 07-08-2005, 04:22 PM

Your installer isn't smart. AWD has nothing to do with how a wheel balances. I always request stick on weights.

esteve · 07-08-2005, 09:56 PM

It's true, clip-on weights balance better since they're at the farthest points of the rim, but I suggest you take that little hammer and strike his forehead if he gets near your rims with it.

Like it's been mentioned, stick-on weights work just fine and even a lot of OEM wheels require them.

I've seen some new Hondas with 3 oz (12 squares) of stick-on weights on the outer section...maybe some of those wheels have air pockets in the casting.

Uncle Scotty · 07-08-2005, 11:47 PM

....I've ballanced a few wheels and as long as the inside of the wheel is cleaned well before putting the weight on, they will work and stick well.....and wheel design has some impact on the ballance as posted above----the farther apart the weights can be, inside and outside, the better....

....but the assclowns that insist that the weights can't be seen from the outside are the real winn4rs

suby-brue · 07-11-2005, 10:12 PM

Thanks for the input guys....

However, is there any recomendation on what to do if I get a bad vibration over 30mph like he was talking about.

Unfortunately, this guy was highly recomended by another Suby owner in the area... If I knew this was going to be an issue I probably wouldn't have had them do it.

Granted the guy gave me the option that if I did have problems I could bring it back and he'd try again with the hammer on weights.

Unfortuately... my basement flooded this weekend and everything from by basement is in my garage blocking my jacks, stands, and air compressor (to take off the stock lugs and wheels).

Anyway, if someone has recomendations on how to effectively balance in case I have balancing issues Id appreciate it.

esteve · 07-11-2005, 10:53 PM

Are you actually getting a bad vibration over 30 or are you just being paranoid?

There is no reason at all for stick-on weights to be an issue. If you have a problem, go somewhere else. I'd be wary of the guy anyway since he recommends using clip-on weights on your Rotas...that's crazy.

If it'll make you feel any better, go to a shop that uses this.

Handsdown · 07-11-2005, 10:55 PM

by the way, how are you liking the fuzion ZRi? i hear they are terrible...

07-08-2005, 02:24 PM	#1
suby-brue Scooby Newbie Member#: 56758 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bucks Co, PA Vehicle: 04 04 WRX - WRB 03 LLBean Outback - Green	Wheel tape weights and 4wd Hi I just got a set of tires/rims mounted (Fuzion ZRi 225/45R17 / Rota Torques) and the wheel shop said that they mounted fine - but the installer said that he used to have a Montero and Eagle Talon and thought that the wheel tape might not work as well as hammer on weights. He offered for me to come back to have the hammer on weights if I had a vibration problem... Anyone know if he's talking smack or any advice? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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07-08-2005, 02:51 PM	#2
WRXSleeper Scooby Specialist Member#: 43853 Join Date: Sep 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Methuen, MA Vehicle: 2004 WRX Sedan Stg 2 Platinum Silver	the stick on weights work just fine. you can also have them put the hammer on weights on the inside of the rim, but certainly there should be none on the outside.

07-08-2005, 04:22 PM	#3
mbiker97 Scooby Guru Member#: 7922 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Tucson Vehicle: 04 CTS-V b/b/b 99 GMC Highrider	Your installer isn't smart. AWD has nothing to do with how a wheel balances. I always request stick on weights.

07-08-2005, 09:56 PM	#4
esteve Scooby Specialist Member#: 28716 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Los Angeles Vehicle: 2006 STI	It's true, clip-on weights balance better since they're at the farthest points of the rim, but I suggest you take that little hammer and strike his forehead if he gets near your rims with it. Like it's been mentioned, stick-on weights work just fine and even a lot of OEM wheels require them. I've seen some new Hondas with 3 oz (12 squares) of stick-on weights on the outer section...maybe some of those wheels have air pockets in the casting.

07-08-2005, 11:47 PM	#5
Uncle Scotty Scooby Guru Member#: 16200 Join Date: Mar 2002 Vehicle: OK Houston we have an Uncle	....I've ballanced a few wheels and as long as the inside of the wheel is cleaned well before putting the weight on, they will work and stick well.....and wheel design has some impact on the ballance as posted above----the farther apart the weights can be, inside and outside, the better.... ....but the assclowns that insist that the weights can't be seen from the outside are the real winn4rs

07-11-2005, 10:12 PM	#6
suby-brue Scooby Newbie Member#: 56758 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bucks Co, PA Vehicle: 04 04 WRX - WRB 03 LLBean Outback - Green	Thanks for the input guys.... However, is there any recomendation on what to do if I get a bad vibration over 30mph like he was talking about. Unfortunately, this guy was highly recomended by another Suby owner in the area... If I knew this was going to be an issue I probably wouldn't have had them do it. Granted the guy gave me the option that if I did have problems I could bring it back and he'd try again with the hammer on weights. Unfortuately... my basement flooded this weekend and everything from by basement is in my garage blocking my jacks, stands, and air compressor (to take off the stock lugs and wheels). Anyway, if someone has recomendations on how to effectively balance in case I have balancing issues Id appreciate it.

07-11-2005, 10:53 PM	#7
esteve Scooby Specialist Member#: 28716 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Los Angeles Vehicle: 2006 STI	Are you actually getting a bad vibration over 30 or are you just being paranoid? There is no reason at all for stick-on weights to be an issue. If you have a problem, go somewhere else. I'd be wary of the guy anyway since he recommends using clip-on weights on your Rotas...that's crazy. If it'll make you feel any better, go to a shop that uses this.

07-11-2005, 10:55 PM	#8
Handsdown Scooby Guru Member#: 29355 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 2003 GD6 Hate chall but i'mma maintain	by the way, how are you liking the fuzion ZRi? i hear they are terrible...