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Old 03-14-2006, 12:23 AM   #51
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what you posted i always knew. i once had a few problems with my car and one was a blown tranny. subaru dealership told me because of my modifications the entire warranty was void, even the radio and power steering!. i knew that wasnt true, and i told him to stop lieing to me and he got mad and i got mad and i told him dont touch my car im picking it up tomorrow.

i guess what im trying to say is i know what he said was BS but how do i go about letting someone know so i can get the rest of the work done that had nothing to do with the mods/ tranny?
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Old 03-14-2006, 12:42 AM   #52
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So, will a simple mod like putting a cold air intake on an RS Wagon void a portion of my warranty? I have a 2005, 16,000 miles with a 100,000 mile extended warranty, but I want to do some bolt on
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Old 03-14-2006, 01:27 AM   #53
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....did you guys even read this thread?
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Old 03-14-2006, 01:50 AM   #54
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There is a bit of a problem I have with Subaru in terms of how much they stand behind their cars. I love the cars to death, but I have a problem of how Subaru planed to advertise their vehicles.

If you don't want people to buy your cars from a performance perspective and drive them as a performance vehicle don't advertise a 0-60 time for your car
I agree with this statement... Don't tell me the car can do 0-60 in under 5 seconds unless I can get away with doing it on a regular basis...
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Old 03-14-2006, 08:27 AM   #55
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....did you guys even read this thread?
Yes as a matter of fact I did. I'm asking if I put an STI downpipe and exaust, is this going to void my warranty on engine. If they are Subaru parts, not aftermarket including Subaru add ons this should be ok, Right?
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Old 03-14-2006, 09:58 AM   #56
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no, you probably still will not be covered. they didn't give you those parts, subaru never certified warranties for those parts on a wrx, and the dealership has no verifiable means of checking vintage, etc.

as a side note about this thread, isn't it all just semantics? I can't tell you how many times i've complained about saab "voiding my warranty" when i knew all along that parts still applied. it's just easier and faster than saying, they "denied my claim so i can only get non-related parts covered through them."
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:38 AM   #57
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So if I change my downpipe and exaust is will voidmy engine warranty? What if i put STI DP and exaust?
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Nope, they have to prove that modification caused whatever failure may occur.
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:40 AM   #58
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Yes as a matter of fact I did. I'm asking if I put an STI downpipe and exaust, is this going to void my warranty on engine. If they are Subaru parts, not aftermarket including Subaru add ons this should be ok, Right?
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…..then you would know that your warranty can’t be voided except for the special situations as discussed earlier. However, a claim can be denied if a modification was found to be the culprit in the failure of a component being repaired under warranty. Also, by replacing your downpipe with a non-OEM component, you could be violating federal/state emission laws (you may want to double check). ……installing factory options is a different story.
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Old 03-14-2006, 01:53 PM   #59
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OK then, I'll reword this. If i change to STI DP and Exhaust, Which I am sure has Cat in it, will this change cause all claims motor related to be denied? Is that clear enough for you? The reason I asked this, Previous Posts did not address my specific question about Using Factory O.E.M. parts probably puchased through the Parts department and not aftermarket, Do they not trust in the reliability of their own factory parts and Technicians? Maybe you should read previous posts.
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OK then, I'll reword this. If i change to STI DP and Exhaust, Which I am sure has Cat in it, will this change cause all claims motor related to be denied?
Possibly, in theory it is up to the dealer to prove that the aftermarket parts caused the failure. In the end it is possible for them to just point to the claimed horse power gains and say that the stock parts are not rated for that. But it is a case by case basis and may be heavily dependent on your dealership.

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Is that clear enough for you?
Don't be a smartass. Voiding a warranty and having a claim denied are two entirely different things, and it is important to establish a distinction. Remember, you came into this thread specifically created to avoid the kind of conflation that you were participating in, along with several others. It tends to irritate people when they are trying to help, but it appears that people are not reading what is being said.

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The reason I asked this, Previous Posts did not address my specific question about Using Factory O.E.M. parts probably puchased through the Parts department and not aftermarket, Do they not trust in the reliability of their own factory parts and Technicians? Maybe you should read previous posts.
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SPT does not qualify as OEM, nor does it (at this time) have any additional warranty benefits, if I remember correctly. Nor is an STI downpipe on WRX considered OEM for that vehicle, so my guess is that it would be treated as an aftermarket part. As far as will this or that part later cause a warranty work order denied, I can give you an absolute, unequivocal, maybe. It depends on the mods, the broken parts, abuse, dealership, SOA, possibly alignment of the planets, and spiritual channeling.
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:24 PM   #61
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OK then, I'll reword this. If i change to STI DP and Exhaust, Which I am sure has Cat in it, will this change cause all claims motor related to be denied? Is that clear enough for you?
……I answered your question: “However, a claim can be denied if a modification was found to be the culprit in the failure of a component being repaired under warranty.”

All claims are not automatically denied just because you add something to your car and/or modify a component.

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“The reason I asked this, Previous Posts did not address my specific question about Using Factory O.E.M. parts probably puchased through the Parts department and not aftermarket, Do they not trust in the reliability of their own factory parts and Technicians?
……just because I can obtain all the parts necessary through my local Subaru dealership to turbocharge an NA Impreza, does that mean SOA is still obligated to cover all warranty issues regardless? …..of course not. The STi downpipe you speak of is not a factory option on the WRX nor was it designed for your application. It may be a factory “OEM” component, but not for your car (it's a modification). In fact, it may be illegal as I mentioned before. ....is that clear enough for you?
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:54 PM   #62
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Didn't mean to come accross as a smartass, That was the way I took it from you. I did not ask if it would "VOID" my warranty altogether as you state, Just asked if it would "Void", or result in all claims, ENGINE RELATED to be denied. That is what I meant about being clear. Don't just jump to conclusions and make insulting remarks. Sti downpipes are factory installed on WRX's in06 So apparently Subaru thought it was abetter part also. I just thought my original question was clear enough to get my question answered, at first all I got was Didn't I read previous post, None of the previous post posed the question about non SPT O.E.M parts, Anyways my question was answered on last post thank you kean. Also how would it be illeagal, It still has cat, No Emissions testing in IN, Just asking, don't beat me
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:00 PM   #63
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Yes as a matter of fact I did. I'm asking if I put an STI downpipe and exaust, is this going to void my warranty on engine. If they are Subaru parts, not aftermarket including Subaru add ons this should be ok, Right?
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Do you see what I mean, "Voiding" warranty claims engine related and "voiding" Warranty Claims altogether is totaly different.
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:12 PM   #64
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Anyways my question was answered on last post thank you kean. Also how would it be illeagal, It still has cat, No Emissions testing in IN, Just asking, don't beat me
....I guess it really depends (which is why I mentioned you'll probably need to find out). Generally speaking, messing with any emission devices on your car is illegal (Federal law). I don't know if you could get away with replacing your stock pipe for one from an STi and still be o.k. ....as for future engine-related warranty claims, it would depend on a number of factors including how mod-friendly your dealer is. There is no definite answer to these types of questions because the scenarios are endless. The bottom line is that you take a risk when performing these types of modifications.
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:18 PM   #65
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Yes as a matter of fact I did. I'm asking if I put an STI downpipe and exaust, is this going to void my warranty on engine. If they are Subaru parts, not aftermarket including Subaru add ons this should be ok, Right?
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Do you see what I mean, "Voiding" warranty claims engine related and "voiding" Warranty Claims altogether is totaly different.
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….the answer is the same. Your warranty can’t be voided on your engine or the entire car (special exceptions aside). However, a claim can be denied if it is found your modification directly resulted in the failure of the component your trying to have repaired/replaced under warranty. …..denying a warranty (in part or whole) vs. a claim are two different things.
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:20 PM   #66
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Thank you, That was all i needed to know. Just didn't need the drama....I really didn't mean to come accross that way, Just you automatically assumed i didn't read previous post before asking my question. I know it is frustrating answering the same question over and over, but mine was a different question altogether. I have been guilty of the same assumptions when dealing with neons. Again thanks for your insight.
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:21 PM   #67
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Also how would it be illeagal, It still has cat, No Emissions testing in IN, Just asking, don't beat me
It is against federal law to remove cats, unless they can be shown to be defective. Then you have to replace them with OEM parts, that's why there is a federally mandated 10 year/100,000 mile warranty on emission items. Nobody really enforces it on the road(yet), but it can mean big bucks(10's of k$ if I remember correctly) for a dealer if they are caught doing it.
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:34 PM   #68
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Thank you, That was all i needed to know. Just didn't need the drama....I really didn't mean to come accross that way, Just you automatically assumed i didn't read previous post before asking my question. I know it is frustrating answering the same question over and over, but mine was a different question altogether. I have been guilty of the same assumptions when dealing with neons. Again thanks for your insight.
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....not to beat a dead horse but my responses regarding waranty/claim denial were no different than what was originally posted by rexygirl (hence the reason for my initial assumption). ....no offense intended and I apologize for being harsh.
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It is against federal law to remove cats, unless they can be shown to be defective. Then you have to replace them with OEM parts, that's why there is a federally mandated 10 year/100,000 mile warranty on emission items. Nobody really enforces it on the road(yet), but it can mean big bucks(10's of k$ if I remember correctly) for a dealer if they are caught doing it.
Federal Emmission on any car in the United States is 8 years or 80,000 miles. I believe, (not sure, don't live there, have no real reason to know for sure) that California emission states are a little stricter.

Correct, by law, a dealer cannot remove (unless replacing) or sell a vehicle without cats cat convertor(s). The only stipulation would be if the customer signed a waiver stating that the vehicle was going to be used for off road purposes only, and the dealer would not be held responsible for the vehicle is it was register for on the road use.
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Federal Emmission on any car in the United States is 8 years or 80,000 miles. I believe, (not sure, don't live there, have no real reason to know for sure) that California emission states are a little stricter.

Correct, by law, a dealer cannot remove (unless replacing) or sell a vehicle without cats cat convertor(s). The only stipulation would be if the customer signed a waiver stating that the vehicle was going to be used for off road purposes only, and the dealer would not be held responsible for the vehicle is it was register for on the road use.
Thanks, I knew it was bignumber / bignumber and 100k popped into it's my head.
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I'm looking to buy an STI from the states and was told the warranty is transferable to Canada by a guy who regularily exports them to Canada....is he wrong??
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Old 03-15-2006, 04:55 AM   #72
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So it can be replaced with Sti O.E.M. with a cat.
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:46 AM   #73
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earlier in this thread, i saw that it said you warranty can be voided if you use the car comercially.... i am a chinese delivery driver... i hope this is not completely true... does anyone know where exactly to find this in writing? if so, i will not be going to my dealer for service because they know what i do for a living....
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:54 PM   #74
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now im terrified to put a catback on my 06 sti... opinions- do people think its worth the risk of possible warranty trouble? thanks...im debating
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Old 04-26-2006, 11:31 PM   #75
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now im terrified to put a catback on my 06 sti... opinions- do people think its worth the risk of possible warranty trouble? thanks...im debating
....did ya actually read the thread?
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