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Old 07-08-2005, 07:24 PM   #1
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I am new to subarus, i used to drive a vw and totaled it now im going for the AWD!, my question is simple, i dont know anything about subaru's please post any or everything you think may be of importnace to me. thanks

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Old 07-08-2005, 07:30 PM   #2
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they are better than all other cars within their price range, you can make them really fast(expensive) they are great in the snow, and they ride like they are on rails.
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Old 07-08-2005, 07:32 PM   #3
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haha now anyhtign towards the technical side? but that is nice to know too lol
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Old 07-08-2005, 07:33 PM   #4
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What kind of VW? The Subaru motor is similar in design to a Bug motor (in layout) Boxer, Flat-4, etc...

If you get a brand-new one, replace the Bridgestone RE-92's ASAP.
They suck ass.

Don't expect good gas mileage.

Other than that, they are cool cars. Great in weather too.
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Old 07-08-2005, 07:34 PM   #5
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Also, are you getting an RS? If not, you should post in the Newbie forum to get some good all-around answers.
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Old 07-08-2005, 07:53 PM   #6
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What kind of VW? The Subaru motor is similar in design to a Bug motor (in layout) Boxer, Flat-4, etc...

If you get a brand-new one, replace the Bridgestone RE-92's ASAP.
They suck ass.

Don't expect good gas mileage.

Other than that, they are cool cars. Great in weather too.

jetta 1.8t (pics if anyones interested), what do you mean they suck???? bad grip, bad wear??? and exactly how bad of gas mileage????the sticker says 23/30

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Also, are you getting an RS? If not, you should post in the Newbie forum to get some good all-around answers.
im getting an rs
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Old 07-08-2005, 07:59 PM   #7
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Ii used to drive a vw and totaled it now im going for the AWD!, my question is simple, i dont know anything about subaru's please post any or everything you think may be of importnace to me. thanks

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AWD! doesnt help you stop.
re92's dont suck. people that drive too hard for the tires they have and then realize the road ends sooner than they can stop suck
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:06 PM   #8
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Good for you, RS's are great cars.

RE-92's are THE cheapest OEM tire that Subaru could possibly use.

They have 0 grip, they catch grooved pavement(slot car anyone),
Luckily they wear out fast.

That mileage is optimistic, a 2.5L NA 4-CYL is HUGE. I can hardly get 300 miles on a tank, even with highway driving.


Please don't get me wrong, I love these cars. I'm just telling you some things to watch out for.

Here are some good points:
1) different than your avg. compact sedan
2) Cool sounding motor ( exhaust is Burbley, even with the stock muffler)
3) Cool interior, on the 05's you get supportive seats, fat, 3-spoke steering wheel, nice looking dash.
4) the gearing is low enough to wear you can cruise at 3500 rpm at 90 MPH in 5th. ( My Jetta GLI 16v used to scream at 4k rpm at 80 MPH )
5) Great suspension, damn near the same as a WRX except for the smaller swaybars.
6) Nice wheels (old WRX rims)
7) Electronic Throttle Control (05's) Kinda cool that you can get drive by wire throttle in a car that I picked up for under 17grand brand new.
8) tons of aftermarket and factory performance parts are available or becoming available.
Misc other stuff that makes Subarus the quirkiest little cars on the planet.
Fiercely devoted owners as well.

C-ya
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Have fun and good luck.
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:08 PM   #9
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AWD! doesnt help you stop.
re92's dont suck. people that drive too hard for the tires they have and then realize the road ends sooner than they can stop suck

You're ****ing kidding right?

Have you ever posted here before? Do a search on RE-92's.

I Auto-X regularly with REAL tires and YES, the RE-92's are quite possibly the worst tires on the planet.

Not trying to be a dick, but pull your head out of your ass.
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:17 PM   #10
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AWD! doesnt help you stop.

who said it did?
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:27 PM   #11
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You're ****ing kidding right?

Have you ever posted here before? Do a search on RE-92's.

I Auto-X regularly with REAL tires and YES, the RE-92's are quite possibly the worst tires on the planet.

Not trying to be a dick, but pull your head out of your ass.
dude, you better check yourself.

moogob isn't 71###, he's 7###.

that means he's been around here about four or five years longer than you.




RE-92s are great tires, but they are not as nice as some other higher performance tires. they are great in the rain and better in the snow than most all seasons.

all he was saying is that if you get into a wreck on RE-92s, you have only yourself to blame.

you need to watch what you say. i don't care how long you've been here... you can't talk to someone like that when they only are adding helpful and accurate information.
you're just spreading rumors and lies.

RE-92's suck compared to other performance tires, yes. but a touring radial for the same price will not get you better performance and you shouldn't drive beyond your tire's ability.

if you were around here longer, you might remember a very funny photoshop of RE-92s, entitled "Scapegoat: here's an idea- it was your own damn fault, dumbass"

but alas, you're a n00b and all you can say is "get your head out of your ass" and hope it reverberates enough in your own lower intestine so that we can hear it.

you'll get yours, i'm not worried about that... but don't call people names or you will get your ass split in two.
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:33 PM   #12
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Yea gas milage is ok, i could get about 250 miles on most of one tank but the close ratio gears don't help much either. An RS is kinda like a car that has power when you need it, i love it.

The Re-92's do pretty much suck, when i had my re-92s every easy turn i'd take id lean alot but when i got some nice low profile tires on 18's it really made a HUGE difference in breaking, handling, and just a little bit in acceleration (grip wise while doing launches). The RE-92s were also good for a little drifting, offroading, and other fun stuff too. I still have them if anybodies intrested in buying them from me for 200 with 7000 miles on em.

You really can't go wrong with the car its really good for the price and reliable too.
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:35 PM   #13
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who said it did?
he was speaking figuratively, as in "don't drive beyond the limits of your tires."


the rs is a great car but it's a pig in comparison with a 1.8t

sure the RS handles better, but don't expect more pull than your 1.8t. you get torque, you get a great, stiff chassis- and you get handling and tunability- but the RS is SLOW, no way around it.

just drive it with respect and you'll end up loving it, and not in a ditch.
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:40 PM   #14
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I don't think it is slow. With few mods it'll haul.... me and my friend were having some fun on a REALLY empty road which was kinda scary, he owns a WRX, and I was right next to him in 3rd all the way to 4th. I even pulled on him in 1st n 2nd. His WRX is stock but an RS has alot of potential. I don't think it should be looked down on as slow for the price you pay.
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:47 PM   #15
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the RS has a quarter mile ET 1.2 seconds slower than the 1.8t... it's a noticable difference.

the 0-60 is very quick (~6.9 seconds) but it's not quick otherwise. if you pulled on a wrx in 1st and 2nd you were either racing an automatic or a VERY bad driver.
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:50 PM   #16
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nah he has a manual, its just he never does launches over 3k and does shift kinda earlier (bout 500rpms early), hes kinda afraid to launch over 3k cause he doesn't want to break anything, but me on the other hand have no problem doing 5k launches cause i don't have enough power to break anything . The real bad thing about the RS is that once you hit 3rd gear you really do start to go slow(stock), but for me my 3rd gear seems to go by fast and my 4th n 5th are REAL slow. I could stay in 5th forever, I probably wont be able to redline 5ths till i get a turbo.

Oh yea and another friend that has an STi i had a little go with too, but honestly I was even lucky to stick with him up to 4500rpms of 1st gear haha
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:58 PM   #17
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but me on the other hand have no problem doing 5k launches cause i don't have enough power to break anything .
Oh yea and another friend that has an STi i had a little go with too, but honestly I was even lucky to stick with him up to 4500rpms of 1st gear haha
you'll break something, do it enough and you'll break something. probably the clutch, but definitely something.

also, of course you could keep up with the sti until 4500 rpm, you were both standing still until you launched at 5k!

caplin, you're so amusing. thank you for loving your car to the point where logic breaks down
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Old 07-08-2005, 09:27 PM   #18
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Haha, Handsdown is tearin up the n00bs tonight.
my re92 latest 73k miles. Yup! 73k.

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who said it did?
he asked what he should know, i thought it was useful info so he doesnt total his new scoob.

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You're ****ing kidding right?
Nope

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Have you ever posted here before?
Yup

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Do a search on RE-92's.
will i find a post about someone curbing thier new car and blame it on tires?

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I Auto-X regularly with REAL tires and YES
Yippy! your a tire expert in your free time

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, the RE-92's are quite possibly the worst tires on the planet
Nope, I had sears specials on my 89 toyota tecel ($80 all 4 mounted and installed)

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Not trying to be a dick, but I am.
F1x0r3d it


And we should aslo warn you about the AC smoke on humid days, Freaky the first time it happens
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Old 07-08-2005, 10:14 PM   #19
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Yeah our cars are definitely not highway screamers by any means, but they definitely have excellent pickup, and the motor is very unique, it doesn't sound like anything else on the road!
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:20 PM   #20
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The abs kind of sucks in the snow.
Keep your eye on the oil and coolant levels.
My a/c seemed to "lose it" the first summer.
cel's are annoying, hopefully they have improved the new years.
wheel bearings were an issue, hopefully fixed by now.
If you have had no experience with the subaru awd system and you have a 5mt then you can expect tranny/clutch issues.
the stock brakes are pretty mushy.
city mileage tends to suck but expect 25-28 hwy mileage.
The batteries are "iffy" figure about 2-1/2 years.
front/rear main seals leak regularly after 30k or so.
Cluth judder during cold months
if you get a loud block you'll hear it during cold months.
shifting 5mt trannies during winter is like stirring ice cream till it warms up.

Now some good stuff

Pretty peppy car
lots of mods available
mine has been very dependable(even with cel's) 140,000 miles.
awd is very fun in the snow


Good luck with your purchase.
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Old 07-08-2005, 11:40 PM   #21
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The abs kind of sucks in the snow.
the ABS works in the snow --see my first post
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Keep your eye on the oil and coolant levels.
true - do that with any car i thought
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My a/c seemed to "lose it" the first summer.
5 summers and still chilly
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cel's are annoying, hopefully they have improved the new years.
cels means you borked something, fix it.
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wheel bearings were an issue, hopefully fixed by now.
true that, had 1 go at 40k and again at 120k
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If you have had no experience with the subaru awd system and you have a 5mt then you can expect tranny/clutch issues.
only if you a tard
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the stock brakes are pretty mushy.
meh...never noticed mush
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city mileage tends to suck but expect 25-28 hwy mileage.
i get 300-340 miles per tank highweay like you said.
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The batteries are "iffy" figure about 2-1/2 years.
i'm still figuring 5 and 1/2 years on mine
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front/rear main seals leak regularly after 30k or so.
que? we're back to the borked thing
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Cluth judder during cold months
true
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if you get a loud block you'll hear it during cold months.
you hear all of them i think
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get better gear oil
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Now some good stuff
I thought that ws the good stuff.

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Pretty peppy car
lots of mods available
mine has been very dependable(even with cel's) 140,000 miles.
awd is very fun in the snow


Good luck with your purchase.
Yup Yup and Yup!!
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Old 07-09-2005, 12:15 AM   #22
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RE-92's are the easy excuse for noobs when they bork something, it just takes too much effort to admit they were driving like an asshat or that they dont really know how to drive. Running an auto-x on 'real' tires doesnt qualify you as a good driver. Im not claiming to be a pro at anything, hell Ive never run any kind of event, but too many people look to blame the car when its their own ignorance thats at fault. So my tips to you would be...if your interested in racing your first mod should be a weekend with Skip Barber or the like, that money will make you umpteen times faster than spending it on EL headers or whatever. Learn how the stock car drives before you start modding. Ride the RE-92s for a while, they will handle you just fine in snow for this winter(unless you cut them down fast) and save up for a nice lookin set of rims and summers. If the brakes feel mushy you need to start giving yourself a little extra space to slow down and not slam them on repeatedly at the last second. You cant drive the car in 5th at 90mph and be at 3500rpm, unless they have different ratios from 01. And Caplin, thats not really a valid comparison, stock 92s to 18inch rims and low profile tires. That setup will handle better than the same tire in stock size.
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Old 07-09-2005, 01:08 AM   #23
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any one have an 05??? are they the same as the earlyer models?? the bodys definitly arent, but what about internals?


sry double post

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Old 07-09-2005, 01:14 AM   #24
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just for your information, i was on wet roads doing about 65 in a 50, came around a corner and their was a deer, turnbed to hard and had the car slide off the road sideways into a tree, was bad driving i guess, but even at 50 i woulda lost it i had to cut the wheel so hard............next time....deers mine, i aint moving!.

and some reinforcement, this shows you why i wont drive like an *******.....im happy to be here.






all i got was stitches in my eye
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Old 07-09-2005, 02:28 AM   #25
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wow dude.

i'd say DEFINITELY get a subaru, should be way safer.

however, you might not be so lucky next time if you don't learn some defensive driving techniques. the deer might have been inavoidable, but sometimes slowing down is just as important as keeping the car balanced and in control. awd isn't going to matter for **** if you're breaking so hard there's no weight on the rear tires. glad you know how serious it is firsthand, but don't get awd thinking it can help you out- the responsibility is on you.


as for internals- nothing's changed except for the intake air sensor, it's changed from a temperature sensor to a mass air flow sensor, very different but doesn't change the engine much, if at all.

you're really freaking lucky to be alive man. do yourself and everyone a favor and start driving with more sense.
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