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Old 07-13-2005, 11:18 AM   #1
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Default Uneven wear on Falken Azenis

I have a set of Falken Azenis that I run just for autox. I'm finding that when i take the wheel off and roll it, it won't roll straight anymore. If you look to the inside of the tire, there are still some nubs on the inside edge. I realize these are directional and you can't switch them left to right, but is there any way to make them wear a little more even?
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:52 PM   #2
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What are you alignment settings?
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:56 PM   #3
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the car is all stock
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:01 PM   #4
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My question is still valid - how do you know if you are not wearing your tires prematurely because you and too much much toe in/out. I would suggest you get an alignment asap.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:02 PM   #5
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They aren't directional they just have an inside/outside.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:09 PM   #6
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yeah, sorry, i meant that, not directional.

and BlkWRXWag, i would doubt it's out of alignment, it's an 05 with under 6k miles on it, and i haven't hit any big bumps, and it doesn't pull at all either way. i assume it's normal wear, but just wanted to check.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:11 PM   #7
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I wouldn't assume anything with factory alignments
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You may not always feel it if the toe is out of whack. And the factory specs have a pretty large tolerance (front camber = -.4 plus or minus .75).

So are you saying the the outside of the tires are wearing more than the inside?

Is this only in the front?

If that is the case, then you just don't have enough camber for your aggressive driving (autox). I would recommend an alignment where they max out the front camber should end up somewhere around -1.0 w/ the stock camber bolt and also get the toe set to zero.
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Next time you auto-x mark the side walls with chalk so you can see how much you're rolling on the sidewalls.

Scooby Freak has a good point............
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what would an alignment like that do for wear on my other set of tires i use for daily driving? can any shop do an alignment like that? how much might it run?
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As long as the toe is set close to ZERO, then wear on your daily drivers will be fine. Any shop w/ an alignment rack, although some shops may be stubborn about aligning to your own specs. If they aren't willing to give you exactly what you want, don't bother with them.

An alignment can range from $60 - $120. Some shops will have a lifetime alignment plan. If you do it, make sure you ask for a printout of the before & after specs, so that you know you got what you wanted.
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Next time you auto-x mark the side walls with chalk so you can see how much you're rolling on the sidewalls.

Scooby Freak has a good point............
i do mark them to check that, but as far as i knew, that just told me if i had too little or too much air in the tires...
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:32 PM   #13
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Even with a fairly aggressive (-2 degrees camber, 0 toe) alignment, tires driven for autox only are going to wear the outside edge faster than the inside edge.

Once the outside edge wears out, you can flip the Azenis and run them inside-out. You won't be getting maximum grip...but it's not far off.

The only caveat is wet weather traction decreases with the tires inside-out (so I've been told).
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Old 07-14-2005, 11:28 AM   #14
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i do mark them to check that, but as far as i knew, that just told me if i had too little or too much air in the tires...
It does. You adjust the air pressure in the tire to keep it from rolling over.
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Your problem can is probly a combination of autox and alignment.
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