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Old 08-24-2015, 11:31 PM   #1
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Default solved installed ID1000 and Grimmspeed ebcs and cannot go past 4-5k rpm and 5psi HELP

PROBLEM SOLVED see post #17

Hey guys, I am trying to get some guidance here.

I searched a whole bunch and am coming up with some different conclusions but nothing exactly similar to my symptoms.

I have a 2013 WRX Stage 2 +
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Car ran amazing no issues what so ever. got power hungry so decided to do some upgrades.

this past weekend I installed ID1000 injectors along with grimmspeed ebcs
got a map from TP for these added maps.

Issue: cannot rev past 4-5k or 5-6k while under load. max psi I am getting is around 5psi. i threw no CEL

it feels like i am hitting red line when i get to these values and the fuel/boost is cutting off. I do hear a decent size WHOOSH

Things ive done so far:
  • Checked all connections for EBCS to ensure they are correct and no leaking, zip tied all connections
  • checked TMIC piping, found 1 side loose and retighted it, issue still occurs
  • checked stock bpv and made sure gasket was fine and mouting properly to the innercooler
  • checked fuel inejectors for any leakage and did not see nor smell anything
  • Datalogged and sent to tuner, nothing out of the ordinary, just said it might be a boost leak

No luck, same issue.

Possible things to explore:
  1. Tuner said it sounds like a boost leak
  2. I removed 1 bolt and 2 nuts off the TGV and pushed it out of place (did not remove just moved enough to make room) while doing the injector install
  3. anything else that could have happened??? any suggestions? ideas?

I am trying to also rule out that it could be the injectors or ebcs. I do not want to start swapping back stock parts and then find out i still have the issue going on.

any guidance?

thank you!
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:01 AM   #2
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Did you try datalogging it?
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:02 AM   #3
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Did you try datalogging it?
I did, and sent the logs to my tuner and nothing was out of the ordinary.

No cels either
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:12 AM   #4
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Do you have a ap?
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Old 08-25-2015, 12:20 AM   #5
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What routing did you use for the EBCS lines? Post a diagram or a link to the instructions if possible.

Also, post up the datalogs.
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Old 08-25-2015, 08:14 AM   #6
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Do you have a ap?
Yes i have accessport v3 sorry i did not mention that sooner

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What routing did you use for the EBCS lines? Post a diagram or a link to the instructions if possible.

Also, post up the datalogs.
I followed Grimmspeed's video and paper instructions from online.


I did 2 data logs of just driving around

http://s000.tinyupload.com/download....55686133805116

http://s000.tinyupload.com/download....55686133844288





I followed that diagram for the EBCS. I wasnt 100% confident but im sure its correct because when standing at the front of the engine bay and looking at the turbo, the wastegate is on the left side and the nipple from the turbo outlet is on the right side.

  1. After work hoping to have a boost leak tester or the supplies to make one
  2. Resetting ECU and uploading map to Accesport and ecu agian
  3. Are there any tests to rule out ebcs and injectors?
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Old 08-25-2015, 08:44 AM   #7
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Usually if the EBCS is not hooked up correctly. you'll be stuck with low PSI. Happened to me and was only able to get maybe 8PSI during dyno day, a quick swap and was hitting what i needed to be at. As far as the RPM i'm not sure what that would be in relation to.
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Old 08-25-2015, 08:57 AM   #8
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Usually if the EBCS is not hooked up correctly. you'll be stuck with low PSI. Happened to me and was only able to get maybe 8PSI during dyno day, a quick swap and was hitting what i needed to be at. As far as the RPM i'm not sure what that would be in relation to.
pretty much i would still be able to drive the car without hitting a limiter but without hitting target boost right?

So its safe to say i can rule out ebcs.


I hope its not the injectors since they were a PIA to install and took for ever.

Because I am not throwing a CEL, could that help rule out the injectors and point straight to a leak?

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Old 08-25-2015, 10:18 AM   #9
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did you rout port 1 back to the intake? sorry im just trying to throw out an idea
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:36 AM   #10
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did you rout port 1 back to the intake? sorry im just trying to throw out an idea
Yes I did, and I appreciate the input, I could have easily missed something as well.
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It sounds like your wastegate is plumbed correctly. I don't think that has anything to do with it. Wastegate issues wouldn't cause a fuel cut unless you overboosted. No clue.
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Are you running an Aftermarket Fuel Pump or FPR? just trying to help the best i can! that stuff stucks man.
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:32 PM   #13
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It sounds like your wastegate is plumbed correctly. I don't think that has anything to do with it. Wastegate issues wouldn't cause a fuel cut unless you overboosted. No clue.
Thanks, i know the EBCS is hard to tune for at times too. I MIGHT try to install my stock one to see if i can rule this out?

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Are you running an Aftermarket Fuel Pump or FPR? just trying to help the best i can! that stuff stucks man.

WHOOPS sorry i left that out in my mod list. I have DeatschWerks DW65c Series Fuel Pump*

Thanks, this stuff does suck but i do appreciate the help!
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check the boost line that connects to the manifold under the tmic. you might of popped it out when putting the the tmic back on.
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You should really go back to stock injectors and the stock bcs and load the last map you were on see how it drives to completely rule it out.

You might be creating new problems when it was the new parts.
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Are you doing an etune? Also did you reflash the map when installing
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Old 08-26-2015, 01:00 AM   #17
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PROBLEM SOLVED

Thank you everyone for the advice, I finally solved the problem today.

My tuner was spot on, it was a boost leak.

Turns out it was a dynamic leak, the silicone hose from my TMIC to the TB was coming loose under boost.

I had my gf sit in the car and do launch control as I was watching and listing for the leak (i would hear a WOOSH sound while driving). I saw the hose slip off and slip back on.

sadly the hose was clamped on tight while the car was off and did not budge. I took off all the hoses and the TMIC and cleaned everything to make sure no oil was on there. I wish i had HAIR SPRAY but after cleaning it was a bit sticky residue left over. did some pulls and im good to go.

Thank you everyone for helping and shooting over suggestions. I really appreciated the time i took to respond to my thread.
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Hooray! glad you're back up and running right dude!
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that is awesome!!!
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Old 08-26-2015, 11:42 AM   #20
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that is awesome!!!

Thank you!

I was really starting to get frustrated and worried I messed up something. The injectors were a PIA to install and took a lot longer than expected.

Hoping to finish my 93 e tune this week and then ill be ready for the e85 tune!
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PROBLEM SOLVED

Thank you everyone for the advice, I finally solved the problem today.

My tuner was spot on, it was a boost leak.

Turns out it was a dynamic leak, the silicone hose from my TMIC to the TB was coming loose under boost.

I had my gf sit in the car and do launch control as I was watching and listing for the leak (i would hear a WOOSH sound while driving). I saw the hose slip off and slip back on.

sadly the hose was clamped on tight while the car was off and did not budge. I took off all the hoses and the TMIC and cleaned everything to make sure no oil was on there. I wish i had HAIR SPRAY but after cleaning it was a bit sticky residue left over. did some pulls and im good to go.

Thank you everyone for helping and shooting over suggestions. I really appreciated the time i took to respond to my thread.
Nice, glad you found it.
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