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Old 07-16-2005, 09:07 PM   #1
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Default Blue smoke still after engine rebuild

Long story short, car had smoking issue if you let it idle and hit the gass, then a big ol' cloud of blue smoke would come out.

Took it in to the dealership....they replaced the shortblock and one of the head (the other one was good according to them)

Started it up tonight let it idle and BAM!!! big ol' cloud of blue smoke?

I have no clue now whats up with the car? Could it be one of these things?
-turbo bad?
-oil build up in inner cooler, needs clean?
-other head bad?
-my car is a lemon and SOA needs to give me my money back

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Old 07-16-2005, 09:09 PM   #2
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Was this just after you got it back? there may be some left over oil that hasn't totally burned off.. But I may be wrong.
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Old 07-16-2005, 09:16 PM   #3
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nope I got the car back on Tuesday and everything was good, untill Thursday I left for work in the morning and a saw a little cloud but it was white. So after driving it all day with no indications of smoke at all...I let the car sit for 3 hrs went out 15 mins ago started it up, idle for 5 mins and blue smoke.
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Old 07-16-2005, 09:26 PM   #4
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There are two other things that will cause smoke as you describe. Smoke after coming off the thottle and then back on can be because the additional vacuum will pull oil down worn or damaged valve bushings and can be a head gasket issue as well. Again, vacuum from slowing and back on the throttle pulls a little oil or water in..
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Old 07-16-2005, 09:29 PM   #5
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i wouldnt mess with, i know if i had blue smoke i would want to keep cause when do you ever have blue smoke coming form your engine unless its really really bad
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Old 07-16-2005, 10:41 PM   #6
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my car smokes on start up sometimes when theres too much oil in the pan...
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Old 07-16-2005, 11:08 PM   #7
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If it is still smoking take it back to the dealership, something is still a miss.

Let them deal with it.

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Old 07-17-2005, 12:14 AM   #8
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You would think they would check the vacuum hoses and head gasket but the people at my dealership are a bunch of retards. I had to call SOA just to get them to admit to me they ordered the wrong head for my car which pushed back me getting my car.

In the last 2 monthes I have had my car for hmmmm 2 weeks, wonder if SOA would considered this a "problem" car/lemon (if they would ever admit that) and give me my money back or just keep telling a dealership (Not going back to the one I bought the car from anymore) to keep fixing it.
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Old 07-17-2005, 12:21 AM   #9
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the people at my dealership are a bunch of retards.
That is putting it mildly.
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Old 07-17-2005, 12:30 AM   #10
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From what I have heard the biggest problem (and I think this is my problem because it has happened to me) is that the turbo oil seals need to warm up a bit to completely seal. I don't know if this is completely true but I read in on these forums. I have noticed that if I let my car idle for a bit while it is still cold, and then I free rev the engine a bit, a big cloud of smoke will come out of my exhaust until I drive it and get it warmed up a bit. But, when I let the car idle for doesn't matter how long, when the engine is warm, nothing happens, just the dirty smell of having no cats.

Again, it's something I read not something I am all too sure about.
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Old 07-17-2005, 12:40 AM   #11
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Default hmmm

that seems like a good point and thats the only time it does it when the car/engine is cold. When I am driving it around, like today, never had any issues when I was stopping from place to place...no smoke was seen. But I went to the movies lastnight and when I came out and started it up there was smoke.

does anyone have any proof behind this idea?
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Old 07-17-2005, 01:34 PM   #12
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Sounds like a bad seal in the turbo, that would cause it to smoke after idleing. How many miles does your car have?
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:20 PM   #13
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I had another thought. Where do you park? I know that seems odd, but if you park your Subie on a steep hill with the nose up high, it will smoke a little when first started. This is 'not' a problem though..

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Old 07-17-2005, 03:02 PM   #14
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how many miles?
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:32 PM   #15
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nope I park it in my drive way, no slant at all

I have 45,000 on the car right now
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Old 07-18-2005, 06:58 AM   #16
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could the turbo seal have gone bad already?? you would think not but I am starting to get up in miles now.
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:10 AM   #17
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anyone experience a bad turbo seal over 40k in miles??
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Old 07-19-2005, 09:19 PM   #18
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had smoke coming out of my hoodscoop tonight, popped the hood it was coming out where the wastegate hindge meets the wastagate arm. I mean it was coming out like crazy.

Could I have a faulty oil line to the turbo? or is my turbo seal completly gone??

little help please
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Old 07-19-2005, 09:35 PM   #19
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I would suggest a new turbo dude. What color was the smoke oming out of turbo?
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:36 PM   #20
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it came out white

yea I am looking into that option but I am afraid if I commit to a new turbo, I will still smoke, I don't know...this point I am about fed up with my car. I wanted this car ever since I saw it in '02 and I just feel like it enjoys crapping on me b/c I get one thing fixed and another thing comes up. I dont think my car would fall under the lemon law either.

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Old 07-19-2005, 10:41 PM   #21
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Turbo Turbo Turbo, find a low mile used turbo and we can do the swap. You could prolly find one for around $100. Upgrade it always an option :-)
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oh its tempting just to go with a bigger turbo then if I blow the engine then catty can have it for her car hehe
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:29 PM   #23
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it came out white

yea I am looking into that option but I am afraid if I commit to a new turbo, I will still smoke, I don't know...this point I am about fed up with my car. I wanted this car ever since I saw it in '02 and I just feel like it enjoys crapping on me b/c I get one thing fixed and another thing comes up. I dont think my car would fall under the lemon law either.
Did you buy it used? Performance cars are often a gamble... its hard to say how the previous owner treated it. It seems safe to say that your car has had a hard life - turbos, blocks and heads are not wear items - under normal conditions they should last well upwards of 100k+.
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Isn't the average life around these boards ~75k miles for the stocker turbo? It's a Mitsubishi turbo so I question it's life expectancy :P Engine wise as long as you treat it the best you can and do all of your maintenance I would think the block and heads would lost well over 100k as well. It all depends on the owner and their driving styles/abilities.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:23 AM   #25
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I babied the car since the day I got it. I got it used with 33k on it. You can tell the person who owned it before me didnt take care of it b/c of the engine problems. I am even embarassed to drive the thing b/c I am not sure if its going to smoke or not (and you all know you laugh at the smoking car thats all done up when you see one).

Honestly I just want to give rid of the car and have someone else worry about it but everyone in my family is telling me let SOA take care of it and my dealership. If you havent seen any of my other posted I had to fight with my dealership about fixing my car in a timely manner. Took them one month or just replace the head!! So I called SOA on them and got the ball rolling on that. So now with this smoking issues I have had since I cant remember arised SOA is telling me that the dealership I bought it from has to fix. Funny thing is my dealership won't see me for another week or so b/c their "field service sales rep" who looks at the cars and ok's them for warrenty work is on vaccation, how freakin convinent. So thats another factor wieghtin into the eqaution of just getting rid of the car as well. Yea I know I wrote a book but I hope someone can feel for me what **** I have gone throught with I car I wanted since they first came out.

Anyone wanna buy my car???? 65% or so of the engine is brand new lol
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