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Old 07-17-2005, 05:04 PM   #1
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Default Good setup on 04 - 2.5 rs ?

hey guys whats up once again i want to thank you guys for kickin me some knowledge about parts for my car heres the conclusion. i already have cobb exhaust, intake, equal length header, power pulley and tein s tech lowering springs. and im ordering cobb club racer cam shafts, cobb high lift valvetrain package, the perfect power ecu with wiring harness and data cable, a new head gasket to raise my compression and port and polish. exedy hyper clutch, exedy lightweight flywheel, STI struts "becuase mine are bad" carbo tech rotor's and brake pads. and cobb front and rear strut bars, cobb short throw shifter and cobb transmission mount. thats the list for now. i need your help though, what else should i get to make all of this work together with as little problems as possible? thanks guys.
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Old 07-17-2005, 05:11 PM   #2
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sway bars, whiteline ALK, run as much negative camber as possible up front, possibly buy camber plates to get some in the back, whiteline steering rack bushings.


oh yah, YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A WRX OR STI!!
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Old 07-17-2005, 05:37 PM   #3
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-First, lose the S-techs, that's why your struts are bad. You can find an STi suspension for fairly inexpensive.
-Ok... look at TWE for the cams and valvetrain stuff.
-Just get some cheap replica strut bars, from Gruppe-S or if you're feeling really cheap, ebay. They're not a critical part and they will perform just as well as expensive ones.
-Get engine mounts as well as the tranny mount.
-Sway bars are important like svek said, and maybe endlinks too.
-Tires are very important, the Hankook RS2s are cheap and good.
-Stainless brake lines and fluid to go along with your rotors and pads.

There's a lot more, but that's just some basic stuff.

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Old 07-17-2005, 05:56 PM   #4
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haha already got a shoulda got a wrx or sti. i know with all the money im spending on my car it doesnt make sense that i am driving a 2.5 but i mean at the time when i bought my car i didnt have money to get a wrx or sti. and im not going to trade in slit my own throat and start back on basics with my car. i love my car even though a wrx or sti can out perform. im comfortable with my choice. so now that its official I AM KEEPING MY 2.5. haha so you say go with twe? have you personally ran them at all? i mean why not stick with cobb?
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:08 PM   #5
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From what I've seen/heard, TWE makes better quality stuff. For the cams...I believe they are just ground down while the Cobbs are spray welded and then ground down.

I also read a comparison between the TWE header and the Cobb header...if you saw the pictures, I don't think you'd put the Cobb piece on your car. Look at rallitek.net and you'll find the thread.

I'll say it again. Lose the S-techs. Right now...seriously.
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:20 PM   #6
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-sti struts suck alot of 04 guys have had a clunking noise in the rear from theirs and thats why they swap em out

-power puley is prob LW and that combined with a LW flywheel is no good

-cams are alot of money so i hope you are sure it is worth it to you cause if something goes wrong your fugged

-get kartboy shifter and bushings its much cheaper, much better service and i love their parts

-replica sti strut tower bars are just as good as the cusco ones, why? because they dont do much. They only help if you have big aftermarket swaybars, so if you dont have those then no real point.

-make sure those brakes work because our rotors are not the same size as wrx ones, and i dont believe they are the same as the old rs ones

and as little problems as possible? forget the cams, this headgasket thing, and port and polish. when you start ripping apart a motor it gets iffy if not done 100% correctly. make sure this shop knows what they are doing and have done this work to a SUBARU RS before not all motors are alike (subarus/all cars). But if you must out of those three just do cams forget the other two
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:31 PM   #7
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so forget the port and polish and forget the head gasket. thats what a couple people have said. and im getting my work done at p and l motorsports its hear in the chicago land area i dont know if you guys have ever heard of them but im going to do a lil more research and see who has done what to the 2.5 haha thankyou for the common sense guys its greatly appreciated.. do you guys think my car will be pretty quick and nice if everything i want gets done and 100% correctly? how much horse do you think il be throwin down? anyway thankyou guys keep it comming i need the help.
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:54 PM   #8
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n/a 2.5s dont make much power. there are several HUGE threads about doing a big n/a build. 200 hp is reachable but takes lots of money. which im not sure if thats a big deal to you.

ps- you should try and do mods yourself. you will feel better knowing YOU did the work to YOUR car. or maybe thats just me.
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:58 PM   #9
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not sure on those accounts but your best bet to make it quicker is to put that fat pig on a diet, 04s are nice and heavy so we have to find ways to save weight...

cf hood and trunk
lightweight battery
remove unnesecary crap like washer fluid bottle
jdm bumper beam
remove fogs if you have em
remove all airbags
remove everything from trunk even spare tire
remove sound deadoing tar
door panels and rear seats if you dont mind the awful look without em hah
theres prob more

if you want to stay reliable and be able to go back for warranty... with those mods your screwed even with cams cause its impossible to get them out if something happens, and ive heard about people having CEL lights with them, im not saying that port and polish wont help something but ive never really heard anyone do it, and high compression is more unreliable
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:03 PM   #10
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haha i would love to do the mods myself but unfortionatly i am a complete jackass and dont know anything about my car nor do i have the tools. this is my first scooby. im the kinda kid that you guys hate but i have to start somewhere right. all of my friends drive talons, spec v's , honda's of all sort so they dont know **** they can teach me either haha it kinda sucks. ok so check this out what if i just get valves and retainers and the cams and do go with the raise on my compression or the port and polish think that would be a little bit more street safe? by that i mean not worrying about it breaking down somewhere.. i know i can never bring it back for warranty work after this to. so yea say twe cams, twe valves and retainers, and the perfect power ecu. if done properly and tuned properly how much hp do you think that will throw to my car?
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:07 PM   #11
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your the kind of kid everyone hates? not sure what that means only kids i hate are kids who do not pay for their car, pay for anything on it, and def dont even pay for gas, then brag about their car

and then those who race constantly cause they feel cool going in a straight line

im not to sure about all that retainers, and raising compression ****, it will not make the car last that long with such an aggresive modifications done to it, but if its all done right should be ok for awhile....
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:16 PM   #12
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haha well alot of people give me mad **** becuase of the fact that i dont know anything about my car but i own it. i just dont really have anyone to teach me. and then when i ask questions i get alot of you dumbass blah blah blah blah. thats all i meant.
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:22 PM   #13
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well thats why they make the borads and www.howstuffworks.com just search around and learn. meet some scooby people and talk to them on and off the boards and go to meets where people work on their cars.

not everyone here expects you to know how to rebuild your motor with all that crap you want to do hah.

and the boards give alot of bad responses sometimes dont worry about it
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:24 PM   #14
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when i first joined i didnt really know a whole lot. just read up about things. check out www.scoobymods.com they have lots of step by step instructions on how to install random stuff. im still no pro by any means when it comes to installs but i can get by on the basic stuff.
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:18 AM   #15
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cool thanks for the tips... so how much horse power do you think i would get if i got twe cams, valves and retainers and that perfect power chip dyno and tuned? on top of all the basic bolt ons.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:23 PM   #16
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Want to do the work yourself? I can help you since we're not too far from each other.

I just did this same install for another member in the widwest minus the ecu thing.

I have no idea how much power you'd be making but I know it will be more! And that's more better for you.

pm me if interrested.
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Old 07-19-2005, 03:34 PM   #17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by svek
when i first joined i didnt really know a whole lot. just read up about things. check out www.scoobymods.com they have lots of step by step instructions on how to install random stuff. im still no pro by any means when it comes to installs but i can get by on the basic stuff.
Member #6486, if that's the case than what makes you a "Scooby Specialist"?
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:00 PM   #18
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regardless of it costing LESS to buy a newer and better car...its quite fun to buy stuff and install it yourself
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:01 PM   #19
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you quoted the wrong guy, but they're both scooby specialists because they have over 555 (i think) posts.

You'll probably be making around 200 at the crank, which means 145-150ish to the wheels... with ALL that stuff.

If you want real power, get a turbo kit, and learn how to tune.
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Old 07-19-2005, 08:01 PM   #20
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I meant svek, Member #82259

sorry bout that
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:09 PM   #21
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^^dude when you make 555 posts your title under your name changes to specialist

make 5k like i did and you become a guru
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:52 PM   #22
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im a newbie YEA. haha damn man i want to do this **** to my car. but every1 says go turbo then other people say naw dont do that youll blow your motor. i mean if i get a turbo kit run 6-8 psi and its tuned properly i should have any problems right?
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:52 PM   #23
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and what web sites offer good deals on turbo kits for the 2.5 and whos the best?
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:08 PM   #24
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dont bother turboing it, and AVO is prob the best bet, itll cost like 4 grand and can barely run 5psi without danger to the motor
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:30 PM   #25
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cool cool thats all i needed to hear. yea im jsut gonna stick with the simple **** and handeling i just need to chill out and wait until i can get an sti. or wrx for that matter.
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