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Old 10-28-2005, 03:57 AM   #1
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Default Falken ST115 Vs. YoKo ES100??

Anyone has any opinions on these tires??
Which one will you choose if 225/45/R17

I know ST-115 is pretty quiet, but how about performance compare with ES100?

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Old 10-28-2005, 04:25 AM   #2
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definitally go with the Falkens. i have those on my ride. are still holding up great, dont squeel at all while taking turns hard. Tread life is great as well. yoko's r good tires but wqont last you as long
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:17 AM   #3
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Yokos are definitely loud, grip about the same, and wont last as long.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:50 AM   #4
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falkens st115's!!! I went with 235/45/r17, it slowed me down alot in acceleration but grip made up for it big time!!!
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:09 AM   #5
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You could have gotten 235 40 17 which would have increased your accelerationa dn grip.
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Old 10-28-2005, 03:36 PM   #6
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why not FK 451's. They'll smoke both tires in grip and acceleration. Slightly noisy though.
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Old 10-28-2005, 03:45 PM   #7
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why not FK 451's. They'll smoke both tires in grip and acceleration. Slightly noisy though.
Probably because they last 20k...they aren't a good tire for daily driving, high miles...
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Old 10-28-2005, 04:01 PM   #8
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Strange, my ST-115s are down to 50% tread left and I've only got 8k miles on them... but that 's also because I give 'er around any corner I come across. Breakaway is VERY linear and the grip is SICK. Absolutely great. Wet traction is even IMMENSELY better than my dry traction with the RE92s. Very silent tires, the ride is comfortable too.

It handles light snow just as well as the RE92s.

Get this...

My biggest problem right now is deciding whether or not to try another tire ever again. I'd like to try different tires but I'm doubting if anything can be as versatile/comfortable/grippy/quiet as the ST-115s.
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Old 10-29-2005, 03:15 AM   #9
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+1 for the ST115's

I bought them because the reviews say they grip well in dry and rain and are QUIET.

keyword - QUIET, coming from azenis RT215's, these are a different world.

The Es100's are noisey, i went through this debate too and i ended up going with the ST115's. Mine squeal every so often on hard turns (but i blame my suspension). Great tires for what you pay for. Ive been on them for 5k miles and the little spikes just came off (i dont drive too hard, occassionally i push the car on turns) and still have 85%+ tread left.
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:35 PM   #10
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Probably because they last 20k...they aren't a good tire for daily driving, high miles...
I'd say otherwise, I've been driving mine daily for 1.5 years now, minimum 40 miles a day with some long trips, and have maybe another year left in them.

awesome tire, awesome dry grip, insane wet grip. World class, and comparable to the heavy hitters like SO3's, PS2's, etc.
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Old 10-29-2005, 07:08 PM   #11
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I'd say otherwise, I've been driving mine daily for 1.5 years now, minimum 40 miles a day with some long trips, and have maybe another year left in them.

awesome tire, awesome dry grip, insane wet grip. World class, and comparable to the heavy hitters like SO3's, PS2's, etc.


^^^^.....yeppers
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Old 10-29-2005, 07:21 PM   #12
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go for the falken ST115
they are much better than ES100
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:48 AM   #13
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Yeah, go for the st115 if you want a sporty touring tire. There is a reason Falken calls them "Luxury Sports" and put a pic of a c series merc with it on their website.
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Old 10-30-2005, 10:17 AM   #14
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I'd say otherwise, I've been driving mine daily for 1.5 years now, minimum 40 miles a day with some long trips, and have maybe another year left in them.

awesome tire, awesome dry grip, insane wet grip. World class, and comparable to the heavy hitters like SO3's, PS2's, etc.
Ok then I'll change my statement: 451's do not last as long as 115's and are a little louder. I think we can all agree that the 115 is a little more comfort/wear oriented tire than the 451, although the 451 is drivable as a street tire...

In any case, they don't last as long...so theres a reason right there...
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Old 10-30-2005, 10:28 AM   #15
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They are louder. That is their only drawback, really. The 451's wear unbelievably well. I drive canyons every day on my way to work, and I drive very hard. I am not a sedate driver. People who know how long I've had the 451's and how I drive are surprised when they see the lack of wear on my tires.

For the price, nothing comes within a mile. At ANY price, they hold their own, or are better. In the wet, they are nearly unsurpassed.
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:05 AM   #16
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ST115... you won't be disappointed. I won't even consider another tire after having a set on my wagon.

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Old 11-06-2005, 02:44 AM   #17
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ST115... you won't be disappointed. I won't even consider another tire after having a set on my wagon.

Scott
Exactly what he said. I haven't tried too many different brands and models of tires, but after my ST-115s... It's going to take a lot of convincing for me to try anything else.
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:52 AM   #18
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Ive got the yoko es 100's and they are definetly the tire to go with. Ultra grip and excellent in wet conditions. I love them and i see their full potential when i autocross. Many autocrossers use them and i was told they are the best tire for autocross because they are the most responsive with minimal error.
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Ive got the yoko es 100's and they are definetly the tire to go with. Ultra grip and excellent in wet conditions. I love them and i see their full potential when i autocross. Many autocrossers use them and i was told they are the best tire for autocross because they are the most responsive with minimal error.
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Old 11-06-2005, 05:04 AM   #20
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I drove with the ES100s on the street for a while then switched the wheels to my auto-x wheels... the tires are very disappointing for the price. They are good in many areas, but they just don't shine in any one. As for them being good auto-x tires... they do not wear very well in high lateral loading and tend to chunk and feather quite badly. The Kumho 712s I ran in auto-x before didn't wear nearly as bad and offered just as much grip at the track.
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