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Old 07-19-2005, 04:03 PM   #1
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I did a search, but only found an old thread from last year.

Does anyone have experience with the Avon 550?
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:54 PM   #2
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I meant to add, I know these are HP all-season tires, not 'summer' or max performance. A co-worker and I saw them on Tire Rack's site, and we are considering them for second vehicles that are not performance cars.

In searching for info online, I found out that Cooper Tire owns Avon, and the Tire Rack has exclusive distribution rights for Avon tires.

I noticed that they are the top-rated tire in the "Utra-HP All-Season" category at Tire Rack. Being a natural skeptic, I'd like to get some independent opinions.

Thanks.
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:30 PM   #3
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Default Avon 550 A/S

Well, I am usually skeptical too, but I decided to pull the trigger on the Avon 550's and am having them installed tomorrow. I'll let you know my initial impressions after I drive on them for a few days.
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:47 PM   #4
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Thanks Dave, I'm loking forward to your opinion.

Which tires are you running now?
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Old 07-19-2005, 11:03 PM   #5
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I'm running the Avon 550 A/S on my STI (235/45/17). They are not Potenza 070's but are very adequate for normal commuting and excellent in the rain. Tire pressure needs to be a bit higher than normal in the rear or they will slide a bit. I'm happy with them, especially for the price.
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:50 PM   #6
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Thanks Dave, I'm loking forward to your opinion.

Which tires are you running now?
I'm ashamed to admit that I am just replacing the stock RE92s after 33K; and no, they are not bald.
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:33 PM   #7
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I'm ashamed to admit that I am just replacing the stock RE92s after 33K; and no, they are not bald.
No shame in that.

I replaced my RE92's with 30 miles on the odometer (I actually got $200 for them on eBay) but everyone's different. It sounds like you're just a more 'conservative' driver than the typical WRX owner!

Anyway, I was asking so I would know what you are comparing the 550's to. I would hope that the 550's would be better than RE92's with 33K miles on them!
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:46 PM   #8
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they are surprisingly good for the cost and what they are designed for ..... while not the end all to be all tire they do offer above average performance, ride quality, and tire life all in all they are a really good value
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:07 PM   #9
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they are surprisingly good for the cost and what they are designed for ..... while not the end all to be all tire they do offer above average performance, ride quality, and tire life all in all they are a really good value
Thanks Luke.

How do they compare with the Falken Ziex ZE512?
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:43 PM   #10
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I have never driven on the Falken .... so, I can either make up alot of BS or say I don't know ....
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:16 AM   #11
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I'm running the Avon 550 A/S on my STI (235/45/17). They are not Potenza 070's but are very adequate for normal commuting and excellent in the rain. Tire pressure needs to be a bit higher than normal in the rear or they will slide a bit. I'm happy with them, especially for the price.

What pressure are you running on the fronts and the rears?
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Old 08-10-2005, 09:30 AM   #12
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Just had the Avon 550 A/Ss installed on my bone-stock '04 WRX wagon, replacing the RE92s it came with.

After about 75 miles, my initial impression is that they are much quieter, absorb small bumps a bit better (no difference with bigger ones) and feel much grippier than the OEM tires.

Tracking and turn-in also feel a lot better, but I won't chalk that up to the tires since I also had a front-end alignment done, which should make a bigger difference than the tires in those areas.

I will update this post as I get experience in bad weather and roll up another few thousand miles on them.
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Old 09-14-2005, 01:25 PM   #13
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revive!

luke, how would you compare the avons to the pzero nero m&s?

thanks!
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Old 09-14-2005, 03:43 PM   #14
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since i'm asking anyway, are the rating scales on tirerack the same for different categories of tire?

for example, is a rating of 9.0 dry traction for an ultra high perf all season tire going to be the same as a 9.0 for a max perf summer tire?
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:12 PM   #15
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since i'm asking anyway, are the rating scales on tirerack the same for different categories of tire?

for example, is a rating of 9.0 dry traction for an ultra high perf all season tire going to be the same as a 9.0 for a max perf summer tire?
VERY good question! I'd like to know myself.

A couple years ago, CR tested winter tires -- both H-rated and Q-rated. Unfortunately, they were rated using a different 'scale', so you can't compare them directly ("good" dry handling for Q-rated tire might be "fair" or even "poor" for the H-rated group).

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Old 09-14-2005, 04:36 PM   #16
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the P-Zero Nero will out perform the Tech M550 but the M550 will offer better ride quality

the numbers are only to be used to compare tires in the same class
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Old 09-15-2005, 03:30 PM   #17
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Anyone have experience with these tires in the snow?
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Old 09-20-2005, 08:32 PM   #18
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Same here, looking for snow experience with these too
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Old 10-15-2005, 10:35 AM   #19
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the P-Zero Nero will out perform the Tech M550 but the M550 will offer better ride quality
How about in snow?
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:10 PM   #20
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Bump.......

Anyone with the Avon M550 with any updates, positive or negative? I have a hard time justifying the extra cost of P-Zero Nero M/S over what seems to be a very competitive tire in the M550. Thoughts Please!!!!

*resurrected because seemed useless to start a new thread when a discussion had already been started*
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I have the same dilemma!
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Old 10-19-2005, 08:56 AM   #22
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Quote:
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Thanks Luke.

How do they compare with the Falken Ziex ZE512?
I would say for the money, the Falkens are a better deal. They were Rated #1 out of all high-performance all season tires tested by Consumer reports, which included Michelin, Continental, Goodyear, Bridgestone, and others. I have them on my wife's Baja and they COMPLETELY transformed the handling for the better, in every type of driving. Even my wife who is not usually perceptive to changes in the vehicle, noticed a difference with the new tires.

Unfortunately, I know nothing about the Avons so I guess you cant draw a comparison from this review. I wish Tirerack carried Falkens Thats all i'll put on my cars. WRX is riding on Azenis ST-115s. LUKE!!! When will ya carry Falkens??
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just rotated my avon 550's for the second time - (15K now) - and am really suprised that the outer 'nubs' are still all visible on these tires. i drive hard through all types of weather. these tires did me well through a nasty new england winter last year - and now they are working well here in austin tx where the weather is completely different. i wonder how the summer specific avon's perform? for the daily, spirited drive with twisty's - i would definately recommend these tires for the price.
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Old 10-19-2005, 09:18 PM   #24
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another older thread on this subject:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=778290
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Thank you for the post ^^^^^^^^ Don’t know how I missed that in my searches……..thanks again though!!!

I will be giving Luke a call here in the near future as my RE92s are bald from a "spirited" autox season. As bad as they are as performance tires, the RE92s that is, you sure learn a lot about how to drive more controlled lines helping you not scrub so much time. A great way for any noob autoxer to learn IMHO.
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