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Old 08-09-2005, 07:30 AM   #201
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I'll be driving one of my other four turbo subys then, or maybe a truck, or maybe one of my two turbo Buicks. Know what I mean? Drag car lives in an enclosed trailer during winter. I doubt temp will prevent me from starting a car with a Hydra anyway, what do you think?
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:05 AM   #202
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you shouldnt have any problems w/ it, ive talked to Phil about cold start issues. I think he said that his car started up no problem below freezing, it gets pretty cold in MD.
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I'll be driving one of my other four turbo subys then, or maybe a truck, or maybe one of my two turbo Buicks. Know what I mean? Drag car lives in an enclosed trailer during winter. I doubt temp will prevent me from starting a car with a Hydra anyway, what do you think?
That sounds wonderful. And honestly I dont care and not to many other people on the boards care either.



As for the cold cranking amps on a motorcyle you must not be to familiar with them.. Since being a parts tech for motorcyles and openin my Yuasa batterys catalog.. I noticed the CCA on a motorcyle battery ranges from 40 to 385 on the biggest one. Seeing how the OEM battery has a hard time staring the cars on a cold winter day.. the motorcyle battery just wont cut it. So those who dont own the ultimate race car team like turbo2ner please be wise with your battery choice. Not everyone has 4 subarus, a truck, and not 1 but 2 turbo buicks for winter vehicles.

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Old 08-09-2005, 12:41 PM   #204
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Hayaboosted: Thanks for posting the wrap-up of what is needed for this kit and spending the time to write your experience from start to finish. This is very helpful. Even if all the extra parts cost me $100 it is a steal. And maybe I missed it, but what is the normal piping diameter? Any chance of a pic of the inside of the core?
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:19 PM   #205
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Hayaboosted: Thanks for posting the wrap-up of what is needed for this kit and spending the time to write your experience from start to finish. This is very helpful. Even if all the extra parts cost me $100 it is a steal. And maybe I missed it, but what is the normal piping diameter? Any chance of a pic of the inside of the core?
Hey not a problem at all, glad I could help. My kit came with the intake as well but with no filter. Its just like the turboxs short ram. The only diffrence is the one that ssautochrome gave me is polished on the inside of the piping as to the turboxs is rough. If you want to buy it I could sell it for 60.00 its brand new. Youll just need a filter, which you can source pretty much anywhere. Im not sure if they are doing that on all kits or not.. I worked out a very special deal with ssauto so they might of just given it to me for free.
Again youll need a TurboXS BOV or one with the same style flange. Unless you decided to weld on something else. The piping is stainless so a welder is easy to find, and cheap. I just used my RFL so it was a bolt on. Youll probable have anywhere from 40-60 bucks on the two hoses that are required. You can also find these on ebay. I opted to get them from Garret @ W1 since he is a good friend and i know what im getting is going to be of good quality.

I do not have pics of the intercooler inside.. I can tell you its the exact same intercooler turboxs was using. Says my very good sources
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:54 PM   #206
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I can tell you its the exact same intercooler turboxs was using. Says my very good sources
I have heard this from a good source as well

What about the piping? Is it as good?
What does it have for getting a bov onto the system.
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:26 PM   #207
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Old 08-09-2005, 03:06 PM   #208
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At least my kit comes complete, unlike some other crap kits. Sorry you paid too much, no need to slam other products you know nothing about. Who cares about buying a smaller battery, plenty of people, like me, already have a small battery. I run an motorcycle battery. Gains to be found by loosing weight. My batt weight about 9lbs, not the 50lb boat anchor you have. So, how much extra did you have t0 spend to get all the stuff needed to install? Couplers are not cheap. How about the hose clamps? I say your kit sucx ballz.

If anyone needs help figuring out how I feel about hayabutta, PM me. I'll be glad to help!

Since SSAuto does not have a phone, I recommend sending an email to Tammie. She is a sweety pie. Tell her Scott said hi, and do not mention Marks name, you will get a better price
You knock the SSautochrome kit yet the one you have is halfassed if you ask me..

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DESCRIPTION: 02-05 WRX OR STI FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER, COMES WITH ALL PIPING, CLAMPS AND SILICONE HOSE CONNECTOR.

THIS INTERCOOLER KIT COMES WITH
5- ALUMINUM INTERCOOLER PIPING ( MADE FOR THE STI OR WRX 02-05)
7- SILICONE RUBBER CONNECTOR
14- HEAVY DUTY CLAMP
1- 20X9X2.5" INTERCOOLER

-Core dimensions: 20" wide, 9" tall, 2.5" thick
-Endtank to endtank: 30" wide
-Polished aluminum intercooler piping
-Oversized for maximum air flow
-Increase horsepower and torque
-Direct bolt-on
-Includes all necessary hardware
-Installation instructions included
-Requires short ram intake and removes standard fog lights
-Must weld own BOV flange if necessary
-Lifetime warranty from manufacturer defects

**USING THIS INTERCOOLER KIT WILL REQUIRE REMOVE OF FACTORY BATTERY AND REPLACE WITH A THINNER BATTERY.
I'd rather spend a few extra $$$ on two extra hoses then have that kit. Besides stock for stock the IC on the xspower is bigger. Granted you go an xxlarge IC but you had to remove your AC to use it.

And for the record it was a bit confusing talking about two different FMIC's in the same thread. Did I follow what was going on? Yes. Would it have been easier if everyone was talking about the same FMIC? Hell yes.
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I have heard this from a good source as well

What about the piping? Is it as good?
What does it have for getting a bov onto the system.
The pipes are stainless steel. They are pretty nice. the welds are really nice. As for the bov, again its got the turboxs style flange welded onto it.

the actual only diffrence between this and that of the turboxs unit, is the ssautochromes kit has stainless piping vs turboxs which has aluminum piping. Turbotuner probable optided to go with the alum, because his racemachine has to have all the light goodies to go fast.

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Old 08-09-2005, 09:26 PM   #210
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I'm using an odessey battery ($140). Never failed to start my little four banger with low compression. I've had the same battery since 2002 and have swapped it to three different subys. Plenty of motorcycles have close to 2000cc and they have way more compression. Easier to start a 8:1 motor, no? Try it before you start bashing it bro! I can tell you it works just fine, even below 10F. Just missing the reserve power for bone heads that leave on interior lights, etc.

At Batteries Plus, a battery chain store on the east cost, the odessey cranked out 480 CCAmps, even though it is rated at about 400.

I think it is great you are posting pics and details on your IC. Super cool. Just try not to bash products or ideas you have no experience with, um-k?
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:33 PM   #211
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You knock the SSautochrome kit yet the one you have is halfassed if you ask me..



I'd rather spend a few extra $$$ on two extra hoses then have that kit. Besides stock for stock the IC on the xspower is bigger. Granted you go an xxlarge IC but you had to remove your AC to use it.

And for the record it was a bit confusing talking about two different FMIC's in the same thread. Did I follow what was going on? Yes. Would it have been easier if everyone was talking about the same FMIC? Hell yes.
I really do not know if the A/C is in the way. I'm not going to put mine back on just to find out. It has been about two years since I have seen my A/C. I am just using the bracket to mount mine. I guess the A/C would be fine, but I can't tell you. I can make anything fit with a lil work. Call Chung and ask. I bet it will work fine.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:17 AM   #212
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Old 08-10-2005, 05:04 PM   #213
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I'm using an odessey battery ($140). Never failed to start my little four banger with low compression. I've had the same battery since 2002 and have swapped it to three different subys. Plenty of motorcycles have close to 2000cc and they have way more compression. Easier to start a 8:1 motor, no? Try it before you start bashing it bro! I can tell you it works just fine, even below 10F. Just missing the reserve power for bone heads that leave on interior lights, etc.

At Batteries Plus, a battery chain store on the east cost, the odessey cranked out 480 CCAmps, even though it is rated at about 400.

I think it is great you are posting pics and details on your IC. Super cool. Just try not to bash products or ideas you have no experience with, um-k?
FYI the stock battery is only 325cca, so I would expect an even only 400cca battery to NEVER have an issue.
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FYI the stock battery is only 325cca, so I would expect an even only 400cca battery to NEVER have an issue.
haha. Goes to show you how strong the stock one is.

Heres some info for you. Odyssey has their model pc925 it has 380 cc amps and weights 26lbs. The pc1200 is 550 and is 38lbs. The biggest they offer is the pc1700 its 875a but weights 61 lbs.

Dim: PC925 7x7x6
pc1200 8x7x8
pc1700 13x7x8
* note I rounded the numbers up 1 dec.

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Looks pretty good, a guy here on the boards just sent me a beat up TXS FMIC (that he won't take back) or I'd be willing to be the guinea pig for that kit.

Lol send me that FMIC and then you can be the guinea pig for this Ebay mammajamma.
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Why didn't you get a M3? Couldn't swing the monthly payments?

I effin hate people who take the condesending attittude that if you don't get the "best" (read: most expensive) then you're scum.

We drive a god damn subaru. It's the best sports car FOR THE MONEY. It's not like the Impreza was our dream car and we thought about a 911 but decided for a box with a big wing.

I for one am not gonna pay $900 for an intercooler if there is one that does exactly the same thing for $400. Apparently the extra $500 is worth it to you so you can turn your nose up to other members on the board.
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It sounds like neither of these kits come complete.

The xspower kit requires an elbow, couplers, bov, and who knows what else. But it comes with a bumper beam.

The other kit requires a bov flange,coolant overflow, bov, and an elbow. YOU (DO NOT NEED A SMALLER BATTERY, I will be back to my car in 2 weeks I will take pictures of the piping for anyone who doesnt believe me) and if you choose to go with the bigger ic you will need 2 silicone reducers I believe 3" to 2 1/4". But you could actually make the 2.75 to 2.25 reducers work I know because I did it. Another thing you might want to do is order about 12" of silicone from high temp silicone which is $20 just to make life easier if you need a couple 4" pieces it will save you a headache trying to get the 3" pieces to fit.

Bottom line is both kits will cost under $500 for everything needed so it comes down to what kit you can get for a better deal. Both have advantages and dissadvantages. My ebay fmic will support over 450whp hopefully in about 2 months when I get my ver.7 block (which is in my garage) p&p heads with crower cams, and fp red. So im happy and it costs about $800 less than turboxs etc... I paid $400 shipped for complete kit minus greddy rs bov.
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It sounds like neither of these kits come complete.

The xspower kit requires an elbow, couplers, bov, and who knows what else. But it comes with a bumper beam.

The other kit requires a bov flange,coolant overflow, bov, and an elbow. YOU (DO NOT NEED A SMALLER BATTERY, I will be back to my car in 2 weeks I will take pictures of the piping for anyone who doesnt believe me) and if you choose to go with the bigger ic you will need 2 silicone reducers I believe 3" to 2 1/4". But you could actually make the 2.75 to 2.25 reducers work I know because I did it. Another thing you might want to do is order about 12" of silicone from high temp silicone which is $20 just to make life easier if you need a couple 4" pieces it will save you a headache trying to get the 3" pieces to fit.

Bottom line is both kits will cost under $500 for everything needed so it comes down to what kit you can get for a better deal. Both have advantages and dissadvantages. My ebay fmic will support over 450whp hopefully in about 2 months when I get my ver.7 block (which is in my garage) p&p heads with crower cams, and fp red. So im happy and it costs about $800 less than turboxs etc... I paid $400 shipped for complete kit minus greddy rs bov.

I have a kit comming in from ssautochrome...

So I am going to need more stuff huh? I figured I was going to need a flange... I wish they would post that in their auctions...
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the ss auto kit now comes with an elbow, the only thing you need is a reducer for the throttle body even though i made the 2.5 striaght coupler work and a filter to put on the end of the short ram they give you. If you have a turbo xs type bov it will bolt right on, or you could weld a flange of your choice.
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the piping is aluminum right? someone said it was stainless steel earlier. It is neccassary for welding a flange to know which metal it is!
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its def stainless, i wish it was aluminum but i just wrapped the cold side. I welded the stainless flange on.
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I have a kit comming in from ssautochrome...

So I am going to need more stuff huh? I figured I was going to need a flange... I wish they would post that in their auctions...


you don't *need* a flange. But anyhow I got my flange from Perrin (I'm running stock bov), just email Jeff and ask for one.

I know this thread is about the "XS power fmic" but I think it's good to have info on all ebay fmics. If you aren't smart enough to sort out the info between the XSpower (SSautochrome) and the other one (Dynamictrends/Godspeedgdb/fatboy garage) how they heck are you going to sort out the install of this bare-knuckle, spartan IC kit?!

Personally I've got the "Fatboy Garage" (NOT XSpower) kit and I'm putting it in this saturday (I will be sure to take tons of pics and start a new thread to try to avoid further chaos...). Reading this thread it seems I need the elbow for the turbo.


I'd also like to comment that I think the piping for my IC is a direct copy of the Greddy kit.
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Mines all done. XSPOWER kit fit perfect. Some time here Ill get you guys a picture
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you don't *need* a flange. But anyhow I got my flange from Perrin (I'm running stock bov), just email Jeff and ask for one.

I know this thread is about the "XS power fmic" but I think it's good to have info on all ebay fmics. If you aren't smart enough to sort out the info between the XSpower (SSautochrome) and the other one (Dynamictrends/Godspeedgdb/fatboy garage) how they heck are you going to sort out the install of this bare-knuckle, spartan IC kit?!

Personally I've got the "Fatboy Garage" (NOT XSpower) kit and I'm putting it in this saturday (I will be sure to take tons of pics and start a new thread to try to avoid further chaos...). Reading this thread it seems I need the elbow for the turbo.


I'd also like to comment that I think the piping for my IC is a direct copy of the Greddy kit.
You will need a elbow to go from the turbo outlet into the IC piping. You need a flange, and a coolant overflow tank.

If you have any questions you can pm me I installed this kit about 2 months ago. Good luck you will be happy with the end result and knowing you saved hundreds of dollars.
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