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Old 07-23-2005, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default thoughts on this 17x8 package only 848

http://discounttiredirect.com/direct...=17&vid=008267

848 shipped from discount tire direct. I was looking to go as large as possible without rolling fenders.

46 offset for a 17 x 8 so I should be clear


what's the deal with hubcentric rims... anyone running them any issues to be aware of.
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Old 07-23-2005, 12:28 PM   #2
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nice find, how much do those weigh do you know?
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Old 07-23-2005, 01:33 PM   #3
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...I'd do different tires....there are better ones for a bit more, and if those wheels weigh more than 18 pounds, I'd pass on 'em...
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Old 07-23-2005, 04:15 PM   #4
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Old 07-24-2005, 11:59 AM   #5
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wow, thanks for that link.

Looks like these weigh in at 20 pounds or 19.8 depending on who you believe. So I'm thinking 17x8 at 20 pounds isn't bad at all for the price.

now to search if anyone has these in black on the wrb wrx.
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Old 07-24-2005, 12:52 PM   #6
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closeup picture

http://www.wheelsbymbmotoring.com/im...g_WeaponGM.jpg

looks close to the rota SDR or maybe more like a boost since it's a 17 x 8
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Old 07-24-2005, 01:42 PM   #7
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what's the deal with hubcentric rims... anyone running them any issues to be aware of.
Hubcentric=good for your car.
Non hubcentric=probably okay for street, but iffy for autox or track days.

From the TireRack:
With a hubcentric wheel, the lug hardware will not be supporting the weight of the vehicle, all they really do is press the wheel against the hub of the car. Some wheels use high quality, forged centering rings that lock into place in the back of the wheel. This is an acceptable alternative.

If you have non-hubcentric (lugcentric) wheels, they should be torqued correctly while the vehicle is still off of the ground so they center properly. The weight of the vehicle can push the wheel off-center slightly while you're tightening them down if left on the ground.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:07 PM   #8
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It seems that if you go through discount tire direct and select these wheels for the 03 subaru wrx sedan... that they throw in FREE hub centric rings...

I'm wondering if I would need to use these rings on the wheels. I don't recall the rota's needing any rings.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:23 PM   #9
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would it be wise to upgrade to the Azenis ST115... I'm going to start researching now. They only cost 2.00 more a tire... I wonder if they'd work out the package for me.
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Old 07-25-2005, 01:04 PM   #10
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Rotas are hubcentric so they don't need rings.

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It seems that if you go through discount tire direct and select these wheels for the 03 subaru wrx sedan... that they throw in FREE hub centric rings...

I'm wondering if I would need to use these rings on the wheels. I don't recall the rota's needing any rings.
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:20 PM   #11
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would it be wise to upgrade to the Azenis ST115... I'm going to start researching now. They only cost 2.00 more a tire... I wonder if they'd work out the package for me.
better yet, get the FK451.
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:36 PM   #12
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I decided to get hankook Ventus RS-2. Good price and I've read great reviews.
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Old 07-25-2005, 08:29 PM   #13
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I'm wondering even if they sell these tires with rings do you need them...

I'm looking for an all season tire, guess I wasn't clear
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:58 PM   #14
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I'm wondering even if they sell these tires with rings do you need them...

I'm looking for an all season tire, guess I wasn't clear
If they're throwing in the hub rings, why not just use them? I would use them regardless. It takes just a few seconds to pop the rings into the wheels.

The ST-115s aren't all seasons.
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Old 07-26-2005, 05:25 PM   #15
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I ordered it today...

monkey's charged me 45 for spline lugs... and 12 for valve stems

so it was 905 mounted and balanced to my door.
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Old 07-26-2005, 05:28 PM   #16
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Sent an e-mail: Here is the response.

Hello :

The wording says " ready to bolt-on " . I would agree with
you about
the valve stems .It wouldn't be ready to bolt-on if the tires
didn't have
air in them. The lugs have always been in addition to the
package price. I will credit you $12 for the valves. It will
show up
on your account within 3-10 business days .

If we can be of any further assistance, please feel free to contact
us.

Lynn Decker
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Discount Tire Company / America's Tire Co.
Discount Tire Direct
800-790-6444 ext 413

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Now I'm wondering if I get my lugs in black.
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Old 07-26-2005, 06:31 PM   #17
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post some pics when you get them.
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:20 PM   #18
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Be very careful around potholes, and crappy roads. Not sure how your suspension is setup but I had a set of MB wheels similiar to those wheels on my integra and b/c of the fact that they were cast and not forged, my rims took a beating. I mean I literally had dents and bends on 3 of my rims (one by running over a 2x4 ) and had to balance them all the time b/c of the quality of the cast wheels by MB.

Looks very nice though.
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:41 PM   #19
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17 inch wheel on 225/45/17 tire... and your saying I can't run over a 2x4...

I call BS on that... but your right I suppose be more careful.... Stock wheels are cast and I've been to hell and back with no problems.
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:51 PM   #20
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Keep us updated please. I may order these myself if they work out for you.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:09 PM   #21
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ah. I'm on a stock suspension, and plan to leave it like that. It reminds me of being in my wrangler.
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:17 AM   #22
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I can tell you one thing. When I had My mazdaspeed protege. I went through those wheels, a set of 5zigen's, and konig holes all from discount tire. And none of them would not vibrate over 60!!! after different tires and road force balancing. I have done alot of research, brought on by that situation. From my findings, I've pretty much concluded that if the wheel is not hub centric to your car, you WILL vibrate at high speeds. The rings they try and sell you on just dont get it done. I'm sure discount tire lost big money in shipping costs on me, and still never got it right!

Slapped my buddies factory mazdaspeed rims on and took off, and they rode like glass all the way up to about 135. They of course are hubcentric.

Just a little insight from my experiences
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:02 PM   #23
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Damn well I'll keep that in mind and post a whole review with pictures. I very much frequent 80 mph, so that would be a huge issue with me.
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:52 PM   #24
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....as long as you are on the stock suspension, just about anything you put on is gonna suck....the stock suspension is like marshmallows.
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Old 07-28-2005, 03:05 PM   #25
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Bundyboyz, let us know how it turns out man. The whole experience for me left a pretty bad taste in my mouth for aftermarket wheels for quite awhile. I too spend a good amount of time at 70-80+ And shoot even if I didnt I really wouldnt dig knowing that any time I did get up there the car was going to shake to all **** and back , LOL


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