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Old 07-25-2005, 10:27 AM   #1
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Default 5x100 rims from other car makers?

i know other car makers make the 5x100 bolt pattern but didnt see a thread concering which years and models to look for, would love some wrx wheels/tires but havent found any yet for a "reasonable" price so thought i would check out other oem style rims....

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Old 07-25-2005, 10:51 AM   #2
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Also need to check offset (48-53mm) and centerbore (56.1mm). But don't waste your time looking, you won't find any other OEM wheels that will properly fit late model Subarus.
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Old 07-25-2005, 10:55 AM   #3
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really? i thought i read that dodge wheels fit?
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:02 AM   #4
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Offset's a little low. Center bore is 1mm too big so they won't be hub centric. And they're only 6" wide, which is not really wide enough for even the narrow stock Neon tires. Oh, and they weigh 21lb. Skip.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:13 AM   #5
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hmm, how about vw?
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:23 PM   #6
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try Scion TC's stock rims. lug pattern and offset r suitable but i've heard the center bore is different so i dunno.
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Old 02-09-2006, 09:46 PM   #7
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Center bore on Scion TC wheels must be enlarged. Some eBay wheel sellers have listed these as being "bored out" to fit Subarus.
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Old 02-09-2006, 10:05 PM   #8
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VW and Audi are usually around 35 offset. Too low. Scion TC is the closest fit, but the center bore does have to be machined larger. I see WRX rims and tires in the classifieds all the time for around $300-$400, is that too much for you?
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Old 02-09-2006, 10:56 PM   #9
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VW and Audi are usually around 35 offset. Too low. Scion TC is the closest fit, but the center bore does have to be machined larger. I see WRX rims and tires in the classifieds all the time for around $300-$400, is that too much for you?
$300-400? try like $150-250 (i sold my last set of wrx rims for $160 - no tires)...WRX rims are so underrated. I know they are a skinny but they are light, strong, and have a perfect offset. I'd say they are a good upgrade for older Subarus with smaller wheels.
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Old 02-10-2006, 10:25 AM   #10
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$300-400? try like $150-250 (i sold my last set of wrx rims for $160 - no tires)...WRX rims are so underrated. I know they are a skinny but they are light, strong, and have a perfect offset. I'd say they are a good upgrade for older Subarus with smaller wheels.
I know, I was being generous. I think I sold mine for $200 shipped. Even if you pay $300 for a set with tires, it's still a great deal. I doubt anyone would find OEM rims from another make that are cheaper, lighter, and fit the car properly.
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Old 02-10-2006, 08:37 PM   #11
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Legacy and Forester rims also fit perfectly, of course. Most are really ugly, but a few of the higher-end models had some nice looking ones. I have a set of 20-spoke rims off a 2002 Forester S in my garage waiting patiently for next summer.
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Old 02-10-2006, 09:02 PM   #12
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Coolbreeze: looks like you're looking for something to fit your 96 legacy outback? I had a 95 legacy outback (the 95 was really only a legacy with two-tone stickers, no raised suspension) and this is what I had on it:

OEM Chevy Cavalier Z24 rims. They were 5X100 with I believe a 47mm offset (there was a 47 stamped on the back side). I paid $100 for them, and they looked really sharp on the red/gray legacy.

They set out wider than stock, and with any wheel that's not the EXACT wheel made to fit your vehicle you'll need a good alignment shop to make sure your alignment is adjusted properly (wider offset needs a camber adjustment).

I'm a noobie, but I'll try to post a picture later. I can't figure out how to do it now. Maybe I don't have enough posts to do it. It looked sweet, that rim was a classy five spoke sport rim.
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Old 02-10-2006, 11:36 PM   #13
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I was wondering what would happen if I put on a pair of BBS's from a Evo MR. I know the bolt pattern will fit, but the bore is larger for the hub. Is there a fix for that, or will it even matter?
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Evo offset is too low for Subarus anyways. They will bolt on to a 05-06 STI, but they will stick out too far and rub the fender.
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:12 PM   #15
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I was wondering if my Subaru wheels would fit the MKIV (04) Golf. They are the same bolt pattern but the Subaru bore hub indicates its 56.1mm while the VW is 57.1mm
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I was wondering if my Subaru wheels would fit the MKIV (04) Golf. They are the same bolt pattern but the Subaru bore hub indicates its 56.1mm while the VW is 57.1mm
I believe the common VW offset is +35, while the common Subaru offset is +53. The Subaru rim will be 18mm (about 3/4") too far in. I suspect it would hit the suspension.

Subaru's can get away with using VW rims in a pinch, if the tires are narrow enough because they sit 3/4" too far out, (away from the suspension). They may hit the outer body work if the tires are too wide.
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Would you guys happen to know if any AFTERMARKET wheel from another car would fit the wrx? For instance, an aftermarket set of wheels that were originally installed for a Scion?
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let me ask this. WHY?
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:42 PM   #19
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let me ask this. WHY?
because if someone on a scion board has a set of aftermarket wheels for sale with the correct boltpattern and offset that would look good on my suby then I would get them. I read that the OEM Scion wheels would fit the WRX but the center would need to be milled about 2mm because the wrx hub is larger. So I wanted to know if aftermarket rims would have the same issue?
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I know what you mean now. cool. no hard feelings.
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If its 5x100 PCD (bolt pattern), then it can be mounted on a subaru (+05 STi's, have 5x114.3 so your an exception).

Offset is a mysterious thing to some people. If you take some time, you can make the wheels fit. By going with a different width, but keeping the same offset (say you are going from a17x7 +40, to a 17x8 +40) then you divide the width difference in half (resulting in 1/2") and thus you have only moved the tire outbound 1/2 and inch (as well as inbound 1/2 and inch). Thats hardly anything to get worked up about.

With that being said, offset can never be a "rule of thumb" number. That saying "you HAVE to have a wheel that at least +45 offset" is total bull****. I COULD have a 16x6 with a -10 offset and still fit fine under stock body panels. If you have a hard time doing simple calculations on what offset with what width fits on your chassis, there are a ton of simple offset calculators that can be found on the internet. They will tell you how far from the hub the wheel will sit both inboard and outboard, and how an offset change will move the wheel.

(note* put your stock wheels on, measure from the wheel to the fender and then from the wheel to the strut so you can get a baseline of the area you have to work with, then put the measurments of the wheel you WANT to put on and see if it will fit within those restraints).

You can roll and/or pull your fenders, add a little bit of camber, or stretch the tire to make wheels/tires fit without rubbing issues.


p.s. Some Saab wheels fit pretty darn nice as well
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If its 5x100 PCD (bolt pattern), then it can be mounted on a subaru (+05 STi's, have 5x114.3 so your an exception).

Offset is a mysterious thing to some people. If you take some time, you can make the wheels fit. By going with a different width, but keeping the same offset (say you are going from a17x7 +40, to a 17x8 +40) then you divide the width difference in half (resulting in 1/2") and thus you have only moved the tire outbound 1/2 and inch (as well as inbound 1/2 and inch). Thats hardly anything to get worked up about.

With that being said, offset can never be a "rule of thumb" number. That saying "you HAVE to have a wheel that at least +45 offset" is total bull****. I COULD have a 16x6 with a -10 offset and still fit fine under stock body panels. If you have a hard time doing simple calculations on what offset with what width fits on your chassis, there are a ton of simple offset calculators that can be found on the internet. They will tell you how far from the hub the wheel will sit both inboard and outboard, and how an offset change will move the wheel.

(note* put your stock wheels on, measure from the wheel to the fender and then from the wheel to the strut so you can get a baseline of the area you have to work with, then put the measurments of the wheel you WANT to put on and see if it will fit within those restraints).

You can roll and/or pull your fenders, add a little bit of camber, or stretch the tire to make wheels/tires fit without rubbing issues.


p.s. Some Saab wheels fit pretty darn nice as well
The issue is not only fitting within the wheel well - having the wrong offset affects the cars handling and will cause un-necessary stress on certain parts of the suspension. If you've got a show car you probably aren't too worried about handling or wear, but if you actually drive your car you should stay as close to stock as you can.
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Yes and no. Scrub radius is your main concern when fitting the correct offset. I trust it you have at least heard the term scrub raduis and if not, google it (its the area between the center of the tire, as it touches the ground, to the imaginary line drawn from the upper and lower ball joint)

You want this close to zero, and by doing some modifications to lower the ball joints, extend the lower control arms, or any other adjustments made to the stock suspension, you need to modify the offset of your wheel to take into acount the changed scrub radius and vice versa. This change in offset can be very drastic...like a 30 or 40mm shift (in offset) depending on application.

You might ask, well isnt a super low offset wheel going to hurt my wheel bearings? Yes, it will. BUT the life of a wheel bearing is going to long last the life of your car, even with low offset wheels. It is about .01% higher risk of toatal bearing falure due to the higher stress. And wheel bearing failure isnt all that bad...its not like your wheel explodes off or anything. So higher stress factor isnt all that serious.
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If its 5x100 PCD (bolt pattern), then it can be mounted on a subaru (+05 STi's, have 5x114.3 so your an exception).

Offset is a mysterious thing to some people. If you take some time, you can make the wheels fit. By going with a different width, but keeping the same offset (say you are going from a17x7 +40, to a 17x8 +40) then you divide the width difference in half (resulting in 1/2") and thus you have only moved the tire outbound 1/2 and inch (as well as inbound 1/2 and inch). Thats hardly anything to get worked up about.

With that being said, offset can never be a "rule of thumb" number. That saying "you HAVE to have a wheel that at least +45 offset" is total bull****. I COULD have a 16x6 with a -10 offset and still fit fine under stock body panels. If you have a hard time doing simple calculations on what offset with what width fits on your chassis, there are a ton of simple offset calculators that can be found on the internet. They will tell you how far from the hub the wheel will sit both inboard and outboard, and how an offset change will move the wheel.

(note* put your stock wheels on, measure from the wheel to the fender and then from the wheel to the strut so you can get a baseline of the area you have to work with, then put the measurments of the wheel you WANT to put on and see if it will fit within those restraints).

You can roll and/or pull your fenders, add a little bit of camber, or stretch the tire to make wheels/tires fit without rubbing issues.


p.s. Some Saab wheels fit pretty darn nice as well
The false is strong in this one.

What about center bore...just because it's a 5x100 doesn't mean it will fit.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:58 PM   #25
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Yes, the center bore is my main concern. I figure aftermarket wheels would be larger anyhow, but how can I prove this? Here is what I did, I went on a website, and pretended I was buying these aftermarket wheels for the Scion TC, and then pretended I was buying them for my car. In both cases, the same part number for the rim came up. So would that tell me that these rims WILL fit?
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