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Old 07-29-2005, 02:36 PM   #1
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…the first part of my next project for the boosted BD.
I’ve been waiting on this sucker for a while now.
Was manufactured to order…





To gauge the size, here's an 85lb reference:



Anyone care to venture a guess???
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Old 07-29-2005, 02:38 PM   #2
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I've heard that yellow labs can add up to 24WHP
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:15 PM   #3
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1. custom oil cooler
2. new AC condenser (why?)
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:18 PM   #4
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:54 PM   #5
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My lab’s so lazy he’d probably slow me down
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1. custom oil cooler
2. new AC condenser (why?)
Nope... Nope..

I’ll give ya a hit.. It’s got dual cores, 15 runs, and 14 fins per inch.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:55 PM   #6
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New AC unit. Man, it'll be chilly in there.
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Old 07-29-2005, 07:44 PM   #7
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FMIC?
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Old 07-29-2005, 07:58 PM   #8
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It's a transmission cooler for your high-performance drag 4EAT!
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Old 07-29-2005, 08:10 PM   #9
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Definitly a Cheese grater
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Old 07-29-2005, 08:16 PM   #10
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AWIC radiator perhaps????????
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Old 07-29-2005, 08:17 PM   #11
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Definitly a Cheese grater
Oil cooled for huge volumes of cheese
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Old 07-29-2005, 09:07 PM   #12
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Heat exchanger for an AWIC set up?
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Old 07-29-2005, 09:09 PM   #13
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Shoot, I didn't see that Jake beat me to the punch!
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Old 07-30-2005, 10:19 AM   #14
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AWIC radiator perhaps????????
Heat exchanger for an AWIC set up?
Winners…!

It’s a small radiator designed for use as a front mount Heat Exchanger for my upcoming liquid to air intercooler setup. Should fit perfectly in my stock BD front bumper cover with a little trimming. To keep the sleeper look, I’ll probably paint or anodize it flat-black.

Many folks who go with an AWIC setup simply use oil-coolers or very small single core radiators. With this huge dual core setup, I have a better chance of obtaining close to 100% efficiency (depending on conditions) cooling the turbo charge to ambient temperature before entering the engine.

As a unit of measure:
I’m presently running a 300cfm turbo (stock wrx) and an sti intercooler which results in intake turbo charge of between 115°F-135°F.

With an efficient AWIC setup, I can run a 600cfm turbo (18G) with a liquid-to-water intercooler cooling the intake turbo charge down close to ambient temperature, say 80°F-100°F..! The big differentiator here isn’t the change in intake temp, but the ability to effectively cool twice the intake turbo charge of a much larger turbo..!

This is the actual intercooler I’m planning my system around, custom developed by CBRD:


Woot…
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Old 07-30-2005, 12:22 PM   #15
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Damn that is hot.
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:23 PM   #16
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I would like to see more pics of the car. I have a 98 GT that someday will hopefully get a swap.
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Old 07-30-2005, 02:53 PM   #17
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look around, he has a link with a TON of swap pics. search by username.

oh yeah,

and thats NUTZ!
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Old 07-30-2005, 04:55 PM   #18
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that is sweet anthony, are you using your carputer for logging and tuning capabilities? I just saw a setup for that and it is making me think about it

Ben
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Old 07-30-2005, 04:57 PM   #19
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Wow! very cool.
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Old 07-30-2005, 10:18 PM   #20
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NICE! that is some technical stuff, I like it...

And everyone here knows that it's not a popular mainstream thing to do with your car which makes it ever cooler


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Old 07-30-2005, 11:00 PM   #21
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Hmm.. I thought under high-boost conditions the Subaru Sti used a direct "water" (alcohol ?) injection system in an attempt at lowering the intake temperature. While I am not at all opposed to experimenting to judge the merits of differing solutions, somehow I just sort of assumed that Subaru would know what works best.

I would be interested in what sort of results you manage to obtain, however.

Good luck !
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:03 PM   #22
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The STI sprays water onto the IC to try and cool it more. There is no direct injection from the factory.
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Old 07-31-2005, 11:05 AM   #23
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^^^^
An AWIC doesn’t add water to the intake charge, it simply uses water to cool the flow as opposed to the tradition (and stock) air-to-air setup. “Air has a specific heat value of 1.01 (at a constant pressure), while the figure for water is 4.18. In other words, for each increase in temp by one degree, the same mass of water can absorb some four times more energy than air.”

My whole reason for pursuing an AWIC setup is that the Legacy body is a bit “Intercooler Challenged” for those of us boosted. The factory hood-scoop is tiny and doesn’t supply adequate flow for a performance top-mount IC (nor will it fit with the lower hood height). The front bumper cover and beam allow very little room to consider a front-mount IC without major fabrication and/or upgrading to a larger aftermarket bumper.

With an AWIC, I can increase IC cooling capabilities to support a much larger turbo, while retaining my original exterior. No hood modifications for a huge (sti-style) hood scoop, and no front bumper modifications for a huge front-mount. The result will be a completely stock exterior with the IC cooling support under the hood for a turbo producing twice the flow as the stock unit. (sleeper)

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that is sweet anthony, are you using your carputer for logging and tuning capabilities? I just saw a setup for that and it is making me think about it

Ben
Absolutely… The CarPC setup is awesome. Presently I’m using some freeware UTEC log management software (autologger) which constantly monitors my UTEC data and presents it in a nice dash-board with peak values. It also does logging for further off-line analysis. The ultimate setup would be Delta-Dash of course. Eventually I’ll get around to buying this product…

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Old 08-01-2005, 05:31 AM   #24
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I thought legacy hoods being longer were fairly efficient for tmic's. Where did you find those awic bits at. I've been considering that for my 88 RX.
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Old 08-01-2005, 06:57 AM   #25
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AWIC systems have been around a long while and are common used in high performance turbo applications. Even a couple mass-produced specialty cars use an AWIC system such as the Ford Lightning and Cobra, to cool the super-charge.

You can find some great information about how an AWIC works and some of the fundamentals behind the system HERE…
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