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Old 07-30-2005, 01:08 AM   #1
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Default M3 vs. 330ci vs. G35 cpe vs. CTS vs. ??

Ok, so I am trying to pick out a new car, and I cant decide!!!

*edit* I could not sleep when i posted this, and now realize how useless this thread is. oh well!*

I have done research and asked comparisons on otehr forums, but everyone says theirs are th best, so a subie forum will be impartial, right?

HELP ME!

What I have been looking at

1999 BMW E36 M3 coupe: Great car, but older (only 41K miles though). good coniditon drives great. auto climate, heated seast, etc.

2002 BMW E46 330ci coupe: great also. sport package. not as raw as M3, but still competant. more a GT as oppposed to the 'sportier' M3

2004 Infiniti G35 coupe: Nice driving, sexy outside. cheap yucky nissan 350Z inside.

2003 Caddy CTS sedan, sport luxury: Suprisingly brisk, handles decent. nice inside, but seats not as comfortbale as the the bimmers.


Anyone on here have EXTENDED use in any of the cars? experiences? stories?

Bascially, I am looking for a compact/entry level luxury car. Would perfer coupe, but consider sedan. Would prefer RWD of course, would CONSIDER AWD. leather, heated seats, MANUAL tranny, climate control, etc. all the fun stuff.

Any other suggestions that I am not thinking of here. I have driven these four already, and seem to be drawing a blank on other choices.

discounted choices

Lexus Is300: seats felt too high, shifter a little balky. actually felt cramped in the cabin.
Infinity G35 sedan: after driving the coupe, no comparison.

so lets hear it folks
thanks!
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Old 07-30-2005, 01:43 AM   #2
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go to bed. m3. /thread
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Old 07-30-2005, 04:17 AM   #3
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CTS-V will own either IMO
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Old 07-30-2005, 07:05 AM   #4
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CTS-V will own either IMO
yeah, a little to much $$$ though.
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Old 07-30-2005, 07:28 AM   #5
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e36 would be a blast, I am not sure I would consider is a "luxury car"

Sure it's a beemer, but the interior looks like a gc8 2.5rs. Functional sure, lightweight, but cheap looking .... in my opinion.

330ci would be a very nice option for what you want this car for.

Buy a g35 and I will steal it from you
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Old 07-30-2005, 07:45 AM   #6
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e36 would be a blast, I am not sure I would consider is a "luxury car"
It definitely it not as plush a the E46 330ci, but heated leather seats, climate control. Narmon Karden sound, trip computer, still has all the toys. and the Vadar seats are SO comfy

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Buy a g35 and I will steal it from you
always a motive with you you can borrow it if you buy my snow tires for it!
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Old 07-30-2005, 07:52 AM   #7
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E36 will hand all of those cars their ass
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Old 07-30-2005, 08:06 AM   #8
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yeah, a little to much $$$ though.
Very very true. What are your plans in the winter with these vehicles? I used to love the IS too until i sat in it.

The guy i work with has a 2000 5 series with M suspension and wheels. Its the best looking BMW (NON M3) in the area and the thing handles awsome( ive handed it to him in a straight line though). In the winter he has steels with blizacks(SP?) and he hasnt had a problem. Only thing its auto dont know if the 5 series came manual. Just another thought i had
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Old 07-30-2005, 08:12 AM   #9
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dont know if the 5 series came manual.
Of course it did. You can get non m versions with a v-8 and 6 speed.
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Old 07-30-2005, 08:17 AM   #10
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Beemers are for posers. 99.999% of the people who buy them do so for the name. Oooh look at me, I have a BMW. That's anti-me, so that's out.

Cadillac reminds me of old farts, and I'm an old fart, so that's out.

Which leaves the Infiniti. A luxury brand name based on a misspelled word. Best bargain of the lot. Nobody really needs 400hp for the streets unless they're compensating

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Old 07-30-2005, 09:07 AM   #11
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Which leaves the Infiniti. A luxury brand name based on a misspelled word. Best bargain of the lot. Nobody really needs 400hp for the streets unless they're compensating

Raj

but isnt that why i SOLD the STI


The infiniti is nice, just the interior seems so low rent

And yes, raj, you are an anti-poser old guy. So how can I be like you
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Old 07-30-2005, 09:07 AM   #12
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What are your plans in the winter with these vehicles? I used to love the IS too until i sat in it.
Snow tires and my commute just went from 25+ miles each way to 3 miles each way
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I spent quite a bit of time recently in a e36 M3, and was pretty impressed. For the money, they're a great buy, especially if you find one you feel has been cared for. The interior isn't as nice as their new cars but comparing it to a gc8 is absurd. And the engine is awesome. Many similar parts to my roadster, and I'm very happy with that.

The 330 is a very nice car a swell, but you've got to decide if you want more luxury cruiser or a less refined hauler.
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Old 07-30-2005, 09:34 AM   #14
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I spent quite a bit of time recently in a e36 M3, and was pretty impressed. For the money, they're a great buy, especially if you find one you feel has been cared for. The interior isn't as nice as their new cars but comparing it to a gc8 is absurd. And the engine is awesome. Many similar parts to my roadster, and I'm very happy with that.

The 330 is a very nice car a swell, but you've got to decide if you want more luxury cruiser or a less refined hauler.
the other thing to keep in mind. go from a caged sti with no sound material, to a caged, partially stripped out hardtop mr2 (both with fixed sparco racing seats ) to ANYTHING, and it seems like a luxury cruiser
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my friend is selling his 04 G35c, black on black I think. the car is very very nice. PM me and i'll get you the info
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Snow tires and my commute just went from 25+ miles each way to 3 miles each way
You must be right near me. What are you leaning towards????? if anything yet.
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:49 AM   #17
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How about S4? That is an awesome performer. And you get the beauty of AWD from a company that arguably has the best AWD system on the market.

Consider the Legacy GT? Ha ha ha, how predictable, a suby forum and someone has to steer you towards one. Just some points to consider:

1. AWD
2. Looks awesome but that is a personal thing
3. With a leather package and all, the car has all the toys you would want
4. It's pretty fast and with short money, like AP, you can make it really fast
5. Passive rear steering, handles really well, and with short money you can make it handle even better

The points you might not like:

1. The price of this car is starting to creep. Too much?
2. It's a suby - realiability and functionality is its name, not luxury. Do you care of these 'perceived' images?

I drove the GT and the car just wants to be driven. It is really well refined. The steering felt really good. My father almost didn't buy his V6 accord because of this car. He did try the regular Legacy though. If he drove the GT, I am pretty sure he would have bought it.
Personally, I think G35 has bad interior. You will look at it every time you drive it. For that money, you should get something nice, and not a cheesy looking style with a regular clock embedded in the middle of the dash. But like I said, that is my personal feeling and you should get what you like. It is pretty hard to find a nice interior these days.
CTS - I think that is an underacheiving car. It does everything but it doesn't do anything very well. I call it 'almost good' car. It handles ok, it is a bit underpowered, and the styling will get old very fast. Did I mention it is made by GM? But they keep telling Lexus, Acura and Infinity that party is over
The M3 you mentioned is old. Given the milage, it was someone's second car. But there are no miracle. You will have to eat some money in a short run to replace things. Parts wear and get old and BMW will remind you of their preceived quality when they send you the bill for them.
IS300 is a heavy tub. It is luxurious but I think it pretends to be a performance car. I think that is all I can say about it.

All the things I said are my opinion. I always say that in order to make up your mind, you need to drive all of the cars you are considering. Do that and then decide. Good luck!
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1999 BMW E36 M3 coupe: Don't do it. Electrical system is a nightmare on the E36s

2002 BMW E46 330ci coupe: The ultimate "premium" coupe. Built like a tank. This is the one you want if you don't want a raw edge.

2004 Infiniti G35 coupe: Sexy, sexy, sexy. I'd probably buy this one just on looks even if it's not a good car as the 330.

2003 Caddy CTS sedan, sport luxury:
Hot chick: "What do you drive?"
RR: "A Cadillac"
Hot chick: "Oh, guess I should have guessed that by the green plaid pants and the golf clubs. Later."
(don't do it).

By the way, I just woke up hung over...
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1999 BMW E36 M3 coupe: Don't do it. Electrical system is a nightmare on the E36s
This is a new one to me...
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Old 07-30-2005, 12:41 PM   #20
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Beemers are for posers. 99.999% of the people who buy them do so for the name. Oooh look at me, I have a BMW.

/me can't argue
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Old 07-30-2005, 12:52 PM   #21
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How about S4? That is an awesome performer. And you get the beauty of AWD from a company that arguably has the best AWD system on the market.
Wont get an audi. personal reasons, reliability concerns. Also, still based of a FWD chassis.
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Consider the Legacy GT? Ha ha ha, how predictable, a suby forum and someone has to steer you towards one. Just some points to consider:
I have considered it. Drove it when it first came out. But it never really struck me. The 'name' and 'image' is not a hug ething to me, more so the car. But I am also looking towards pre-owned vehicles, and not too many out there yet.
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The M3 you mentioned is old. Given the milage, it was someone's second car. But there are no miracle. You will have to eat some money in a short run to replace things. Parts wear and get old and BMW will remind you of their preceived quality when they send you the bill for them.
It is his fouth car down in greenwich CT, not second I know things will wear. I know things will need replacing. and i know they are expensive to replace!

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All the things I said are my opinion. I always say that in order to make up your mind, you need to drive all of the cars you are considering. Do that and then decide. Good luck!
I have driven all of them, and still cant decide. all have benfits and drawbacks. Just trying to figure out the best all around package. It is tough

Why cant I be richer? haha. Damn house, I should have bought a brand new E90 330ci bimmer instead!
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This is a new one to me...
First I have heard it as well
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1999 BMW E36 M3 coupe: Don't do it. Electrical system is a nightmare on the E36s

2002 BMW E46 330ci coupe: The ultimate "premium" coupe. Built like a tank. This is the one you want if you don't want a raw edge.

2004 Infiniti G35 coupe: Sexy, sexy, sexy. I'd probably buy this one just on looks even if it's not a good car as the 330.

2003 Caddy CTS sedan, sport luxury:
Hot chick: "What do you drive?"
RR: "A Cadillac"
Hot chick: "Oh, guess I should have guessed that by the green plaid pants and the golf clubs. Later."
(don't do it).

By the way, I just woke up hung over...
Guess I should keep that in mind. I mean, this car should help me, not hurt me, right I dont have any luck now. Hmm, a M coupe might hurt hehe.

It is looking more like the 330ci over the older m3
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You must be right near me. What are you leaning towards????? if anything yet.
I am right near you in west side in 10 days!

and I think I have made up my mind well, more narrowed down the choices.

But I did see a white rx-8 today. sexxxxy
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