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Old 10-22-2001, 06:21 PM   #26
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Old 10-22-2001, 06:51 PM   #27
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Yeah, i bought my WRX at Schaumburg. I called Tim the day before and told him that i am a frequent visitor on I-Club and want to buy a WRX. He told me to come in and i didn't even ask for a test drive. The salesmen just gave me the keys and said let's go. That was on tuesday, and on saturday i came back and bought the car. Just to let u know, i am 19 years old and am paying for this car by myslef. My dad is with me on the loan, just to reduce the interest rate. Subaru of Schumburg treated me very well and gave me a great deal. Sorry about how they treated u. I love my car and can't wait to brake it in.
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Old 10-22-2001, 06:53 PM   #28
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They sure have a funny way of doing business at Schaumburg Subaru.. Let's throw keys at teenagers, and not let responsible adults drive our vehicles, even if they beg! They must be owned by Rohrman... -Sean

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Old 10-22-2001, 07:01 PM   #29
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Dig this: Sat afternoon I actually got a call back from a salesman from SoS who I talked to about 2 months ago. I told him what I was looking for at the time and I figured I'd never hear from him again. Maybe sales are dropping off? Maybe the American car dealers 0% is hurting them?
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Old 10-23-2001, 04:20 PM   #30
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I'm a new guy considering a WRX in the very near future. Took one out for a test drive at Gerald out in the North Aurora Auto Mall. I had called in sick to work that day and showed up at the dealer with wind breaker pants on and a sweat shirt. The salesman still treated me with much respect and allowed me to take a test drive, no questions asked, even though I'm sure I looked like a scum bag. Anyone else have any experience with Gerald? This will be my first new car purchase on my own.
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Old 10-29-2001, 02:16 PM   #31
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I was there last week and was told the same thing by the sales manager, but I don't mind. That actually shows some respect for the potential of the cars they do have. I'm 32, race in the SCCA with a full-comp wheel-to-wheel license, wrote for a very populated automotive website and have had press cars in my possession that numbered in the single digits in this country, so it isn't a question of competence. Its a matter of seriousness and ability to purchase. Anyone serious enough to really want to drive one will fill out the credit app. They probably wouldn't even run the thing.

This is a hot car, and every 17 year old kid from here to Anaheim wants a joyride in one. I can understand their reluctance to give a test to just anyone. I really don't think this is a bad thing for any dealer.


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Old 11-03-2001, 12:14 AM   #32
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Question Schaumburg Subaru dealer experience. Is this normal

I bought a black WRX about 3 weeks ago from Schaumburg dealer in Illinois. I didn't plan on getting one and they didn't have the color I wanted (silver.) It was raining hard that day. I sat down with a salesguy and we started to talk and how I would only take a silver. To make the story short, I got out with a black WRX that was sitting on the showroom floor with 32 miles on it. I needed a car as I sold my previous car in the same morning and had to go to work next day. Intercooler had a couple of dents so I asked them to replace it and I am taking it back next week to have it fixed. Salesguy's name's Tom Carney, really nice young guy. I don't know about the service or parts dept. as I have not had any experience with them.

One thing I noticed that really bothers me is that I am getting a pretty high interest rate (I know it depends on my credit but read on...) which I am planning to refinace. The finance guy told me that if I got an extended wanrraty, my APR would go down. So I ended up getting an extended warranty for $1600 more and my monthy payment was lower than as if I didn't get the extra warranty. Could this be some kind of scam making people to get extended warranty? I called SOA and the person I talked to never heard of such thing.

Funny thing is, when I called him on Monday morning (his name's Dino, btw) and told him I would have it financed somewhere else (by this time, paper work had not been sent to SOA and bank) he said he could probably lower the monthly payment. After hanging up the phone, I got a loan approval from an internet bank with 3% lower APR for REFINANCE. I called Dino back and told him about it. He then went ahead and sent the paper through with my original APR with extended warranty.

I didn't want an extended warranty in the first place but I got one because my payment was actually LESS with the warranty then without. Who wouldn't get it then?

I still feel suspicious about the whole thing and I am waiting to get my registration so I can refinance. Everything was good until I got my APR from the dealer. By the way, how long does it take to get the registration? I need it within 45 days or I lose my low APR. I am currently using my old license plate from my previous car. Am I still getting a new registration?

Also, I was told by SOA that I can get my money back if I cancel the extended warranty within 60-90(I also don't understand what this 60 to 90 days means... is it 60 or 90 days??? geeeeez....) Is this true? If not, there will be one AWFULLY PISSED OFF WRX driver on the road...

Thanks for listening to my gripes..

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Old 11-03-2001, 12:16 AM   #33
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Check out my experience with this dealer below.

http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...hreadid=109850
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Old 11-03-2001, 12:31 AM   #34
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ugh... salesmen... they must be pretty good

you wanted silver - took black
you didn't want x-tend warrantee - still got it

well.... your right.. alot of stuff sounds fishy here....

first of all, there shouldn't be any difference in the finance rates between having and NOT having the xtended.... unless the dealer is taking a % of the financing.... that would explain the drop.... you should be able to simply take a loan out to refinance the car NOW.... many banks allow you to get a approval loan even before you buy a car..... and the sooner you refinance... the less interest you will be paying... i advise doing this ASAP...

about your registration... if you had the dealer do registration for you, they should of provided you with a temporary registration and temporary tags..... unless they are transferring your old tags to your new car... but you should still have a temporary registration...

in any case, the bill of sale is proof enough to take a loan out to refinance the car.... i would suggest going to a local bank(preferably with people you know, or you own bank) talk to a person about car loans.... it is likely you can get the loan NOW with the bill of sales, thereby paying the car off sooner.....

if you called SOA about the cancellation, and they said 60-90, do it NOW.... if the dealer refuses to refund you , get a written statement from SOA.. just have them fax it to you....

gl on your financing and drive safely
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Old 11-03-2001, 12:39 AM   #35
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Thanks for the info.

Well, I need a registration to get a loan for refinancing(I asked them specifically), at least from the Internet bank where the rate was the cheapest. From the local bank, I haven't asked what I need but did secure a loan. Maybe I should find out soon...

So am I suppose to get a temp registration?
hmmm... I feel like I've been had... but I did get some considerable discount for the car (to make myself feel better.. )

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Old 11-03-2001, 11:35 AM   #36
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The cost of that extended warranty is through the roof! No way should it have cost that much...I got a package that recommended a reasonable price for the extended warranty let me see if I can find it...

They most definetly should have given a temp. tag too!

Be careful.
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Old 11-03-2001, 12:09 PM   #37
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I bought my 97 Legacy with 57,000 miles.(i was the second owner).I went to the dealer and bought a 4 year 48,000 mile SOA warranty for $900. You paid way to much. Cancel it as soon as you can.
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Old 11-03-2001, 12:10 PM   #38
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You should never buy a car under pressure (ie I gotta get one to go to work) You live and you learn. You still got a wrx

Here is a site that everyone should read a good month or more before going to purchase a car.

http://www.carbuyingtips.com
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Old 11-03-2001, 01:47 PM   #39
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i got some extended warrenty in the mail after I got my car. I don't remember it being anywhere near $1600, maybe $1200 for another 7 years of warrenty or something.
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Old 11-03-2001, 03:00 PM   #40
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Sounds like typical Dealer stuff.
Subaru os Schaumberg is no different. They are friendly to mods at least.
SOS should have provided you with a orange temp registration permit. I got one when I bought my RS there. Call up, ask for Tim Buti, and ask for the temp permits (He's the manager there)

Just go refinance. I had my loan all setup before I went in to buy. The rates at the dealer where horrible.
As for the extended warrenty, in general these are a bad idea. They get even worse if you plan on doing anything to your car as you will void it. If Subaru says you can cancel it, I would do so immediately.
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Old 11-03-2001, 04:04 PM   #41
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Have a Nice Day?

Well, I have transferred my old plate to the new one.
So does this still entitle me to a temp registration?
Or do I have to wait to get a new one?
I NEED A REGISTRATION CARD!!
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Old 11-03-2001, 07:19 PM   #42
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Same thing here. I told them i wanted either blue or silver, and they spent all this time trying to sell me a red or white.
So I told them to fugg off and went elsewhere. I close on my blue on on Tuesday.
BTW, they ended up getting a blue one in at Schaumburg and they said they would sell me it for sticker (where the others were 500 over invoice) because blue is more expensive
I'm not happy with them at all
I talked to Tim and Leatha.
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Old 11-04-2001, 10:17 PM   #43
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Financing is a major profit center for the dealer as well as extended warranties. They will try to get as much interest from you as they think you will pay. They probably packaged the extended warranty with the lower interest rate figuring that if you did refinance they would still profit from warranty.
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Old 11-05-2001, 10:58 AM   #44
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That is utter !@#%^& brotha!! Yes I admit dealers on the whole are ARSEHOLES, but as soon as they gave you the "Yeah you get a lower APR if you buy our $1600 extended warranty" you should have got up and left!! I hate to be the one to tell you this, BUT YOU GOT SCREWED!!! Just because Subaru of Schuamburg has a presence on I-Club does not mean you can trust them!! Return your car at once! Call the other dealers in the area, and I'm sure you'll be able to find the silver one you want.
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Old 11-05-2001, 11:42 AM   #45
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OK, from a former car salesman...

First, about your registration....chill. If you transferred your old plates, you are fine. Your bill of sale showing the transfer serves as your temporary registration card. You should get a permanent one from the state in a few weeks. Although I can't figure out what your registration has to do with your financing. You have your bill of sale, which is proof that you purchased the car, and the date that you did so.

As for your financing, you basically got taken by the dealer. When dealers do financing, they are allowed to set the interest rate wherever they want above the rate the bank gives them. Sweet set-up, no? Basically, so long as you agree to it, they can set it. The higher they get you to agree to, the bigger of a commission they get from the bank. So, what happened here is this: SoS set your interest rate astronomically high, and then baited you into buying the extended warranty by lowering the interest rate enough to more than offset the payment difference with the warranty. Did you look at the rate you signed for? It probably shouldn't have been much more than 7%-7.5%.

If you have the option of getting your own bank financing, I would go with that. It will almost always be a better deal, unless you are getting a special financing rate through the manufacturer (like the Ford/GM/Chrysler 0% that's running right now).

Oh yeah, and NEVER buy a car under pressure. You're just asking to be reamed like this....
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Old 11-05-2001, 12:54 PM   #46
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I believe you have three days to return the car for a full refund. Maybe this is only in Texas, and it might be too late for you anyway, but it might be worth checking into.

Hopefully your refinance works out. Good luck,

-anders
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Old 11-05-2001, 02:01 PM   #47
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That whole "three days grace period" is a total myth - it does not exist anywhere.

Check out www.carbuyingtips.com for the best site ever about buying a car
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Old 11-05-2001, 04:06 PM   #48
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Well, I guess I did fall for that extended warranty scheme.
I wasn't totally get screwed though. Everything was going good until I got the APR which was astronomically high.
Dealer didn't know I needed the car bad because I never told'em.
I bought $26300 (with several options that I was going to get anyway...) sticker for $27000 out the door (not counting that damn extended warranty.) Is that still so bad?

I am refinancing this week to pay them off and get rid of extended warranty.
Thanks for all the advise guys.

For your info, I have 90 days to cancel my extended warranty to get a full refund and I have to do it at the dealer I bought my car from. This information is directly from SOA.
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Old 11-05-2001, 06:40 PM   #49
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I bought my RS from schaumburg from Leatha and she seemed really nice but they wouldn't give me the total price for the car. It seemed they kept trying to hide things from me. I was only 18 at the time but I got a few mods put on at the dealership and they didn't change the price so I was happy about that. I still think they don't tell you things you ought to know. good luck with that, and ask leatha about her turbo rs.
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Old 11-06-2001, 09:56 AM   #50
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How can you tell a car salesman is lying?
His lips are moving.

I really hate car dealers. Salesmen suck. Sales managers really suck. Subaru dealers are no better than any other. There is only so much cash in the deal. You have it, they want it. They will do ANYTHING to part you from that cash as quickly as possible. These people would sell their mother if they could. They will develop amnesia as soon as you leave the lot. Get EVERYTHING in writing. Get everthing promised before you leave any payment behind. Do not drool over anything on the lot. Sign NOTHING until you have everything you want out of the deal in writing. Be ready to walk. Never finance at the dealership. Never buy the extended warranty. If you get irritated, walk. Always be ready to walk away. You will still have your cash, and can always make another deal.

Welcome to the world of car buying.
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