Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Friday November 28, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Reviews > Car Part Reviews

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-13-2001, 04:49 PM   #1
Fusion
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 553
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: In the trash can to which peop
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS Coupe
Silverthorne Metallic

Default GrillCraft Grill

I was originally approached by GrillCraft to have my car be a guinea pig for the development of a grill for the RS several months ago. About three weeks ago the prototype grill was fitted on my car. I was very impressed with the look and the high quality of the construction. Recently, when I was washing my car, I noticed how many marks there were on the grill where rocks had hit it (my prototype grill is not powdercoated although production versions are). I never realized how much crap was being hurled at my radiator during every day driving (I don't rally-x)! Needless to say, I feel that if you have any intention to participate in events where there is a pronounced threat of damaging your radiator, then you should definitely consider some form of protection.

I've thought about the "home depot" grill mods (I even bought some steel mesh) and IMHO these often tend to wind up serving as mickey mouse cosmetic enhancements instead of real protection. I'm not saying that it's not possible to make a good one on your own, I just think that most people won't go through the trouble and hence will wind up using flimsy twisty ties to hold the thing in place and hence compromise the function of the grill.

I hope my ramblings have been somewhat informative without sounding salesman-ish. These are my honest opinions so please don't flame me if you disagree.

Haig
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Fusion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2001, 05:27 PM   #2
GimmeScoobySnacks
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 2094
Join Date: Aug 2000
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: I'm from LA, we invented gangs
Vehicle:
1999 2.5 RS-T
RBP

Default

this is what he's talking about...nice by the way



Sid

Last edited by GimmeScoobySnacks; 08-13-2001 at 10:45 PM.
GimmeScoobySnacks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2001, 05:51 PM   #3
Fusion
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 553
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: In the trash can to which peop
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS Coupe
Silverthorne Metallic

Default

Thanks Sid!
Fusion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2001, 10:24 PM   #4
Angel
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 5339
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Madison, WI
Default Grrrr

Pictures not working!
Tara
Angel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2001, 10:46 PM   #5
GimmeScoobySnacks
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 2094
Join Date: Aug 2000
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: I'm from LA, we invented gangs
Vehicle:
1999 2.5 RS-T
RBP

Default

how bout now
GimmeScoobySnacks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2001, 11:29 PM   #6
Angel
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 5339
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Madison, WI
Thumbs up works now

Very nice!
Angel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2001, 11:59 PM   #7
m750
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (2)
 
Member#: 2278
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Pepperell MA
Vehicle:
8Sti | 07 allez
White | Comp

Default ok... where?

now where would I find one of these grills? I do rally cross, and I need something to protect my fragile radiator...
AO
m750 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2001, 12:01 AM   #8
Fusion
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 553
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: In the trash can to which peop
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS Coupe
Silverthorne Metallic

Default

Check out their website www.grillcraft.com for ordering info.
Fusion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2001, 02:20 AM   #9
skywalker
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 1990
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: San Diego, CA
Default

Just wondering how it mounts in there?
skywalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2001, 03:30 AM   #10
Fusion
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 553
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: In the trash can to which peop
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS Coupe
Silverthorne Metallic

Default

This is how we installed the grill (the instructions it comes with will have much greater detail):

1)Remove bumper assembly (4bolts in the engine bay, 1 in the front opening, and IIRC 2 underneath, plus the fenderwell clips).

2)Drilled the necessary holes (3 of them, 2 on the sides and one on the bottom).

3)Used the provided clips to mount the grill (you can see the bottom tab in the pic).

4)Reassembled the bumper.

It took us about 2 hours but that's because we were taking pics for the instructions (I'm the guy in the orange shirt ). It should take about 45min-1hour if you're comfortable with regular hand tools. Hope this was helpful in answering the question.

Haig

PS. If you live in the SoCal Area I can help you do this if you want.
Fusion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2001, 11:46 AM   #11
2.5 RRRRS
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 206
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Danville, PA, USA
Default

You know what I think would be really cool? Foglight covers for the WRX in that style. It would look cool and it would beat paying over $200 for STis. The WRX's fogs are recessed into the bumper more than the gen 1s.

Jeremy
2.5 RRRRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2001, 01:29 PM   #12
FUBAR
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (2)
 
Member#: 2132
Join Date: Aug 2000
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Maple Valley, WA, USA
Vehicle:
11 STi Sdn
Sparkling Slvr Met

Default

I made my own w/ some steel mesh and it definetly works. I used zip ties to secure it and the only way anything is getting through is if its smaller than .25 inches or its huge and it hits the mesh at a 100mph, which in this case nothing going that fast will stop it. Does grill craft make grills for the hood scoop and the upper grill? I just don't have the patience to make these look and fit good enough to put on my car. My upper radiatior and IC are getting dinged to hell. Link for their site isn't working.
FUBAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2001, 12:56 AM   #13
ChosenWon
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 2236
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Red Sox Nation w/ y2k4door
Vehicle:
2000 Audi S4
silver/rally dirt brown

Default

It does look nice. A Bit pricey though, but hey if your the demo guy, I suppose free is a really good price!

taken from Grillcraft.com
99-01 IMPREZA 2.5R/S LWR GRILLE 1, SUB 1710S SUB 1710B N/A 191.02

And this is only for the lower grill.

And BTW here is alink for getting the bumper off. If you got it off and back on in an hour, your my hero! It takes me forever to do it. here is the link: http://www.i-club.com/mods/piaa_80_xt.htm

Just to let you know, www.scoobymods.com has a tutorial on how to do a hardcore (hardly noticable) radiator protection mod.
Here is a pic:




But of course apparently grillcraft is offering both cosmetic and protection in the same package.

Last edited by ChosenWon; 08-15-2001 at 01:33 AM.
ChosenWon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2001, 03:05 AM   #14
Fusion
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 553
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: In the trash can to which peop
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS Coupe
Silverthorne Metallic

Default

FUBAR

They are trying to figure out a good way to make the hoodscoop and front grill (top one). I'll keep you updated on their progress.

ChosenWon

You're right, it is pricey! One cool thing about it though is that it covers up that ugly front license plate mount and gives the car that no-nonsense look it deserves. And like I said, if you really know what your doing then you could come up with a viable alternative (the one you have looks nice btw ).

PS. Taking the bumper off efficiently is definitely a 2-person job, otherwise it could wind up taking a while.

Haig
Fusion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2001, 10:13 AM   #15
matts2.5rs
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 7067
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Baltimore, MD, USA
Vehicle:
2004 GTO
Torrid Red

Default

First the price is very high. Second how the hell am I going to be able to put my front plate on. People that live in Maryland have to have a front plate or we get a $60 dollar ticket.
matts2.5rs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2001, 02:19 PM   #16
Fusion
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 553
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: In the trash can to which peop
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS Coupe
Silverthorne Metallic

Default

I just put it on my dash but there are brackets avaiable to mount it in front of the grill.
Fusion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2001, 06:35 PM   #17
nick dickitt
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 4532
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Phoenix,AZ
Default

Is this product available yet? If so who and where?
nick dickitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2001, 07:51 PM   #18
Fusion
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 553
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: In the trash can to which peop
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS Coupe
Silverthorne Metallic

Default

It's available now. You can check their website www.grillcraft.com You can also find it at many tuner shops as well.

If alot of people are insterested then I could talk to them and see if a GB would be possible.

Haig
Fusion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2001, 08:47 PM   #19
nick dickitt
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 4532
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Phoenix,AZ
Default

Fusion,

Check into the group buy. I would be interested depending upon price....
nick dickitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2001, 10:51 PM   #20
Fusion
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 553
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: In the trash can to which peop
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS Coupe
Silverthorne Metallic

Default

I'll call them tomorrow.

Haig
Fusion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2001, 03:39 PM   #21
onikageka
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 9447
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Denver, CO
Vehicle:
2000 Subaru Impreza
Ridge Blue Pearl

Angry Don't be suckered in

The materials Grillcraft uses are the same materials you could buy from Home Depot for 10 bucks and use a can of spray paint on it so it won't rust. My Celica has a custom grill for the bottom too, 15 bucks total. Grillgraft price = 100+
onikageka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2001, 10:26 PM   #22
Fusion
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 553
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: In the trash can to which peop
Vehicle:
2000 2.5RS Coupe
Silverthorne Metallic

Default

I haven't seen too many DIY grills that weld on the mesh to a precisely fitted frame that is secured to the bumper using screws and clips and is powdercoated for $15. If you know something the rest of us don't then please share. I have nothing to gain from this either way as I already have my grill, however, this information would be very helpful to many others (which IIRC was the purpose of this board). I must note though that the reason why the Grillcraft grill is so much more expensive is that it takes alot of R&D (and expensive machinery) to develop a quality product. Like I said in my original post, it is possible to make a similar grill if you have the time, patience and resources. For the rest of us, there are companies like Grillcraft.

Haig
Fusion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2001, 02:39 AM   #23
remarcable
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 2362
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: South Carolina, USA
Vehicle:
1999 Legacy Outback
Blue w/ Paint Chips & Mud

Default



I ran over a cat.




Just kidding. Actually that was after some offroading that caused my bumper to flex from hitting dirt mounds.

I had it secured via a few staple-gun shots and zip ties along with the front license plate screws.

I need to go buy some more and stick it on there again, because it really did help with crap getting into my radiator.

The lowest 4 inches or so of the radiater have clay everywhere.

You can see part of the gutterguardgrill (GGG) before its demise in this pic:

remarcable is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2001, 11:18 PM   #24
ChosenWon
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 2236
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Red Sox Nation w/ y2k4door
Vehicle:
2000 Audi S4
silver/rally dirt brown

Default

In defense of grillcraft, I can tell you this: I have been makeing similar pieces for the RS. I have had numerous requests from customers to make a similar grill. I have been trying everything to get it to work but my efforts have been futile so far... And I can say that the cost once it is finished will be kind of high. No where near theirs, but I can kind of see where they are getting their price from.

But it would appear that they are trying to get all their money back off the firsts sale! J/K

EDIT: I have been all over home depot, Lowes, Clarks, and half a dozen small hardware stores. I have yet to find material big enough and sturdy enough to be useable here. unless onikageka knows of some wonder material that I have not been able to find.

Last edited by ChosenWon; 08-20-2001 at 11:24 PM.
ChosenWon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2001, 05:17 PM   #25
Buckbomb
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 2573
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Portland Or . SPEC
Default

Here's the grill I have been selling on e-bay. this one is raw alluminum finish but the final production kits will be powdercoated. They should be available at SPO Motorsports here pretty soon. (within a couple of weeks) We are still ironing out some details.

I will be doing a group buy here on the I-club soon. I have done alot of reaserch into thiese and I can say that grillcraft's high price comes from its molded frame. CNC programing has a production cost of about $20K per design. I don't have that kind of capital to invest, nor would I want to. As is, my full kit( Hood Scoop, Front grill, Break vents and bumper grill), should retail at about 1/2 the cost of the grillcraft lower grill. The molding does make the Grillcraft grills look pretty sharp though.

Buck

Last edited by Buckbomb; 08-23-2001 at 07:01 PM.
Buckbomb is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Alternative Way to Mount Grillcraft grills? gellar Interior & Exterior Modification 0 04-07-2003 08:12 PM
Grillcraft Grill bits installed Subie Gal Interior & Exterior Modification 28 02-27-2003 08:07 PM
GrillCraft grills for 02 WRX Jfrankon Interior & Exterior Modification 7 09-07-2002 04:31 AM
Grillcraft Grill for the RS Fusion Interior & Exterior Modification 14 07-24-2001 02:42 AM
Who has the Grillcraft grill insert 2.5rsMI Interior & Exterior Modification 4 06-29-2001 12:41 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.