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Old 08-03-2005, 06:51 AM   #1
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Default Canadian pricing released

Not sure if this has already been posted, searched and didn't come up with anything.

From www.subaru.ca:

2.5i Sedan/Wagon: $23,495
Outback Sport Wagon: $27,895
WRX Sedan/Wagon: $35,495
STI: $48,995

I'd only been following the WRX pricing, which has increased by $500. I believe the 2.5i sedan has gone up about $500 as well compared to the RS (think the wagon was somewhat cheaper). The STI price seems much higher to me (think it was ~$45k before?)

Also, no mention of TR or Limited versions of the WRX.
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Old 08-03-2005, 08:17 AM   #2
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The STi went up 1000$ in Canada, the MY05 was 47,995$ versus 48,995$ for MY06. Either way, we are getting robbed here, cause 48,995$ CAN is about 39K U.S.

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Old 08-03-2005, 08:53 AM   #3
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Yup we're absolutely getting it up the backside here. The exchange rate isn't nearly as bad as it was a couple years back, yet the auto dealers won't adjust their prices even though they buy the vehicles in US dollars...jerks.

The WRX pricing isn't all that bad, $35k works out to about $29k US so it's only a couple thousand off. The STI pricing is a pure rip off though, and Subaru knows it. They also know they can get away with it since there's no competion without the EVO being here.
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Old 08-03-2005, 08:56 AM   #4
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Looking through subaru.ca more, it looks like leather isn't available on the Impreza in Canada. Wonder what the thinking behind that is.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:00 AM   #5
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If Canada is getting it up the backside, in Oz we're getting two up the backside simultaneously.

WRX RRP - $30,830 USD
STi RRP - $43,275 USD

Those are MY05 prices. MY06 prices are expected to be a little higher.

If I could get an M3 for the same price you get them (or even 25% more), I'd be over the moon. Base price for an M3 here is $112,000 USD
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:29 AM   #6
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If Canada is getting it up the backside, in Oz we're getting two up the backside simultaneously.

WRX RRP - $30,830 USD
STi RRP - $43,275 USD

Those are MY05 prices. MY06 prices are expected to be a little higher.

If I could get an M3 for the same price you get them (or even 25% more), I'd be over the moon. Base price for an M3 here is $112,000 USD
I don't know about you guys down under, but the average salary here in Canada is much lower than that in the States. Of course the cost of living here is lower, nonetheless, Subaru are sure making their money by selling the STi at this higher price here. Too bad Mitsubishi never brought the EVO here, then we would have had real price competition. I had the chance to drive 2 EVOs in the U.S., and d@mn that thing is crazy fast too, not to mention that the steering of the EVO is more involving than that of the STi.

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Old 08-03-2005, 10:32 AM   #7
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Now that all 2006 Imprezas in the US have daytime running lights (including the STI), what prevents grey market imports into Canada? The odometer displaying only miles?
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:14 PM   #8
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Actually the instrument cluster can be in miles and still be legal in Canada. Other than daytime running lights, the 2 big things that would need to be converted are the bumpers (bumpers have to withstand an 8mph collision without damage, vs 5mph in the states), and child safety seat harness pieces (rear seats must be equipped with safety seat tie downs both on the bench and at the top of the backrest).

Before my rsx I had a 95 GTI VR6. The canadian version of the car had a rear strut tower brace built in which provided the safety seat tie down, the US version did not and was a sore point with a lot of owners (since the chassis was quite flimsy without it)
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:33 PM   #9
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Now that all 2006 Imprezas in the US have daytime running lights (including the STI), what prevents grey market imports into Canada? The odometer displaying only miles?
Massive amounts of duty on cars not built in North America wipes out most of the gain to be had importing a cheaper car from the US. For example, in BC we pay 7% provincial tax, 7% federal, and then 6% duty on top of the taxed value to import a non-NA made car.

There's also quite a bit of procedural hassle to go through, see the registrar of imported vehicles for details. I'm pretty sure new Subaru's have the 8 km/h bumper and child seat anchors, so that gets rid of the major barriers to importing them, it's just the cost and hassle that make it unattractive.

The Legacy, though, being made in the States, makes more sense to import, not being subject to duty, only tax. Subaru Canada is undoubtedly aware of this, as Legacy prices are slightly more favourable with respect to the exchange rates than Impreza and STi: the Legacy GT is priced here at 139% of US, where the WRX is 142%, and the STi 150%. The lack of the Evo here also lets Subaru price the WRX and STi high, there being no direct competitor.

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Old 08-03-2005, 12:34 PM   #10
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I don't know about you guys down under, but the average salary here in Canada is much lower than that in the States. Of course the cost of living here is lower, nonetheless, Subaru are sure making their money by selling the STi at this higher price here. Too bad Mitsubishi never brought the EVO here, then we would have had real price competition. I had the chance to drive 2 EVOs in the U.S., and d@mn that thing is crazy fast too, not to mention that the steering of the EVO is more involving than that of the STi.

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That is why my next STi will come from the states.

Even after paying the 6%, you still save $5K bringing it up.
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:35 PM   #11
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Now that all 2006 Imprezas in the US have daytime running lights (including the STI), what prevents grey market imports into Canada? The odometer displaying only miles?
It's not a grey market, as the 04-05 STi can be imported without any modifications, according to RIV canada (www.riv.ca). Sure we can save some $ by importing it, but warranty and resale value, once you wanna sell/trade it here, become major issues. People here are not too keen on buying made-for-US cars because a lot of those come here as TOTAL LOSS vehicles, get fixed, then pushed to the market.

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Old 08-03-2005, 01:06 PM   #12
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Other than daytime running lights, the 2 big things that would need to be converted are the bumpers (bumpers have to withstand an 8mph collision without damage, vs 5mph in the states), and child safety seat harness pieces (rear seats must be equipped with safety seat tie downs both on the bench and at the top of the backrest).
Well 5 mph = 8 km/h, which is the Canadian bumper standard, and all 2006 US Imprezas are equipped with the LATCH system for child seats, same as Canadian models.

For those in Canada thinking about making a foray south of the border to snag a cheap US Impreza, here are some helpful links:
http://www.riv.ca/english/html/how_to_import.html
http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/importation/menu.htm
http://www.customs.gov/xp/cgov/expor...or_vehicle.xml
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Old 08-03-2005, 01:18 PM   #13
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Sure we can save some $ by importing it, but warranty and resale value, once you wanna sell/trade it here, become major issues.
People here in the US who work for Subaru dealerships swear up and down that there's a reciprocating agreement between SOA and SCI to reimburse for warranty repairs if a car from one country happens to need a warranty repair while in the other country. I suggest you send the following question to SOA via http://www.subaru.com/tools/contactus/index.jsp:

"If my Subaru is still under warranty and I have a problem while travelling in Canada, can I take my car to a Canadian Subaru new car dealership for repairs under the warranty?"

As for resale, I think if you have documentation showing your car had 3 miles on the odometer when you bought it in the US, I think that would allay a potential buyer's fear that the car may once have had a salvage title in the US.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:15 PM   #14
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I beleive all current Subarus (or any made in the last 10 years, for that matter) would be 100% legal in Canada. The only problem was the MY00-MY01 2.5RS, which did not have the correct 8kph bumpers, hence the reason why we got the loser bumpers on our MY00-01 2.5 RS's.

Otherwise, other than that particular model, the only issues with importing any Subarus would be to get proper documentation, taxes and inspection upon importation. No modifications will have to be made.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:31 PM   #15
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it is expected 06 STi will ask for 48995. but 48995 for a japanese car?
it will be almost 60k including taxes in BC.

too expensive.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:53 PM   #16
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Massive amounts of duty on cars not built in North America wipes out most of the gain to be had importing a cheaper car from the US. For example, in BC we pay 7% provincial tax, 7% federal, and then 6% duty on top of the taxed value to import a non-NA made car.

There's also quite a bit of procedural hassle to go through, see the registrar of imported vehicles for details. I'm pretty sure new Subaru's have the 8 km/h bumper and child seat anchors, so that gets rid of the major barriers to importing them, it's just the cost and hassle that make it unattractive.

The Legacy, though, being made in the States, makes more sense to import, not being subject to duty, only tax. Subaru Canada is undoubtedly aware of this, as Legacy prices are slightly more favourable with respect to the exchange rates than Impreza and STi: the Legacy GT is priced here at 139% of US, where the WRX is 142%, and the STi 150%. The lack of the Evo here also lets Subaru price the WRX and STi high, there being no direct competitor.

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Old 08-03-2005, 02:59 PM   #17
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Well 5 mph = 8 km/h
Whoops, you're right. The Canadian standard is 5mph / 8km/h. Got myself confused there.

What's the US bumper standard then?
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Old 08-03-2005, 03:08 PM   #18
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I too agree that with our much stronger dollar now, the pricing on the new subaru's are way too high.

Further, it seems like there is no replacement for the RS Sportpackage and with the missing WRX TR model there is now a 12k price difference between imprezas (not everybody looks at the OBS as the "next step up" from the 2.5i).

but not offering a 2.5i limited to fill the 25-27k price point, I think subaru is really missing out in a large market, the market for ppl that want a nice economy car... ie.. Corolla LE + package B (sunroof + leather for approx 25k) or Acura EL premium.
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What's the US bumper standard then?
3mph.
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I'm pretty sure Subaru uses the same bumpers in the US and Canada.

And the speedometers all have both miles and kilometers.
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any idea if the evo will ever come to canada? how bout when the evo 10 comes out?
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See what happens when you ignore my posts. You just start repeating everything...http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=816492
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Old 08-03-2005, 11:11 PM   #23
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Man I just hate feeling ripped off, I thought at the very least they would not increase the price as it is already overpriced, and no TR that was the one I wanted to get.

It may be enough to make me buy a RX-8 and not the 06 wrx, looks like there almost exactly the same price with similar options here in Canada, since I can probably get a deeper discount on a 05, and I really had myself set on the subie with the 2.5l and and more power then the rx but now I'm flip flopping again...

Look at the rx-8 I'm cross shopping US MSRP 27435 / CAD MSRP 36995 = 1.35, for the WRX the same ratio is 1.42, makes the RX-8 look like the better deal to me, also insurance on the RX-8 is 10% less then the WRX here in BC.

Or I can get a STI from the US humm, you dont have to pay any state tax, and I have heard of people getting warrenty work done after import without issue, i bet I could get one accross the border before tax for about 41-42k.

Damn I wish I could make up my mind.

I heard the evo will not come to canada unless they remove the FMIC, they will not do so it's safe to say it will not come until evo 10, lets jusy pray to god that mitsubishi are not bastards like subaru.
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