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Old 08-03-2005, 09:22 PM   #1
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Default inside tire worn smooth. too much camber? (pic)

got my allignment today and check out my front tires
both are worn on the inside only



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Old 08-03-2005, 09:59 PM   #2
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can we get pics of ur stance... and what suspension u on?
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:02 PM   #3
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im on flex's, rode for 4 weeks on rediculous camber b4 i could get an alignment which i got today. also they ripped up the highway by my house and every day to work i have to ride on the stuff which looked like a cheese grader of pavement just eating my tires.
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:44 PM   #4
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you answered your own question. Your toe was out of whack, and coupled with lots of negative camber, you shredded the tire. should've gotten the alignment earlier.
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Old 08-03-2005, 11:03 PM   #5
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exact same thing happened to me last week when I went in for a tire rotation. (posted yesterday on this). I got the alignment redone, they said that the toe was indeed the problem.

Those pics gave me deja vu...

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Old 08-04-2005, 09:49 AM   #6
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OMG i didn't think it was THAT BAD!!
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Old 08-04-2005, 10:34 AM   #7
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Camber doesn't kill tires... it's the toe that does.
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Old 08-04-2005, 10:51 AM   #8
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Those pics gave me deja vu...
Same here. I have a toe problem on my front passenger corner, and my tires look similarly worn down on the inside edges, though not as much. It will soon be time for new tires (good riddance to the RE-92s) and an alignment (more camber up front, please).

If my tire shop (to be determined) doesn't do custom alignments, I ought to get my wheels aligned first (shortly before having new tires installed), correct?
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:49 AM   #9
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I have four yoko's avid V4's just like this with about 7K miles left on them. But the inside is worn just like that... autox tire I suppose.
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Old 08-04-2005, 11:57 AM   #10
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Camber doesn't kill tires... it's the toe that does.
Toe just does it faster. Camber is a long term killer.
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Old 08-04-2005, 01:20 PM   #11
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Given zero toe, you can run a LOT of camber and have very little effect on tire wear. Any time the alignment gets a little whacked, the wear rate will skyrocket. Long term wear is a relative thing, I got 15k miles or so out of a set of Kumho MXs that saw around 120 autox runs, and 2 track days. Most of that was with between -2.8 and -3.2 camber, while religiously keeping the front toe zeroed. The tires showed very minimal camber-induced wear.
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Old 08-04-2005, 02:16 PM   #12
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now i have zero toe. running plenty of camber, maybe more than needed, do u think theres any hope left in these like for an auto-x or are they going to have to be sent to the grave

thanks for the comments i figured the toe was off
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Old 08-04-2005, 02:26 PM   #13
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On my old Triumph TR6 I was running Dunlop SP5000s and my tires were ruined from too much positive camber, front and rear.

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On the front I set the toe to be just a degree in, as the manual says to do and it turned ugly as my bad old springs got progressively more saggy. When the springs were replaced camber turned out as it was supposed and I needed new tires.
Rear suspension on those old Triumphs is an interesting story which I won't go into. but suffice it to say, it is an early suspension design and it is a pain to align properly, and I didn't do it right the first time. Not doing it right in the end cost me a pair of expensive tires. Toe in the back was not really an issue, but as the ride height changed the camber became increasingly positive and my tires got ruined.
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:06 PM   #14
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now i have zero toe. running plenty of camber, maybe more than needed, do u think theres any hope left in these like for an auto-x or are they going to have to be sent to the grave

thanks for the comments i figured the toe was off
They're RE92's....there was never any hope for running them at autox.

I take that back, they don't look like RE92's, but they don't look very sticky either.
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:16 PM   #15
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Toe just does it faster. Camber is a long term killer.

...your tires shouldn't last that long

....and the 'Rumph had bad springs that caused other issues....not just camber....'cuz lowering the car(sagging springs) alters toe, too....replacing the springs brought toe back soooooooo.....
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