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Old 08-12-2005, 03:22 AM   #1
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Default How would you solve the awkward problems of the Tribeca?

Myself, well I said it before and will say it again.

Limousine.

A Limousine Wagon Outback. 200" long, with a 120" wheelbase and a power sliding second row seat with two jump seats in-between the first and second row. A built in divider with powered window and rear console complete with rear DVD head unit and rear AC. The rear seat about 6 inches further back and the sliding seat (like the Tribeca middle row) sliding back into a longer wagon cargo deck.

Wide enough for 3 wide seating in the back row and you end up with a very nice five seater but with +2 adult jump seats. If it looks like an Outback or Legacy and has a Turbo H6 well it would all work out well. Better than the Tribeca anyway.

That's my idea, whats yours?
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:25 AM   #2
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Hah! Clever, but I don't think it'd work well. The "Subaru Maybach 62" might not be a concept everyone can grasp. Kinda like the VW Phaeton.

As for the Tribeca? Refresh the design in a year, for '07. The interior is fantastic. I absolutely love the dash design. Best idea since Honda's Civic Si dashboard shifter, in my opinion. But the exterior looks like microwaved snot.

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Old 08-12-2005, 08:27 AM   #3
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Hah! Clever, but I don't think it'd work well. The "Subaru Maybach 62" might not be a concept everyone can grasp. Kinda like the VW Phaeton.
+1 for recognition of the futility of the Phaeton....why would VW make another A8 when they don't sell many of the original one?
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Old 08-12-2005, 10:23 AM   #4
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My biggest gripe about it after my test drive is that my wifes Hyundai SantaFe with its 3.5l v6 will absolutely leave it in the dust. The engine just feels really underpowered and really has to rev to keep up.
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Old 08-12-2005, 07:44 PM   #5
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pay no attention to diabolical...there are a few screws loose in that one...plus a rabid hate of the Tribeca
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Old 08-12-2005, 07:56 PM   #6
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My biggest gripe about it after my test drive is that my wifes Hyundai SantaFe with its 3.5l v6 will absolutely leave it in the dust. The engine just feels really underpowered and really has to rev to keep up.

it may have a 3.5l v6 but its 200hp and 219 lbs/ft torque combined with over 5,000 pounds serves up a 0-60 in 9.7 seconds...

0.5 seconds slower than a decked out 7 seater Tribeca and...
1.2 seconds slower than a 5 seater Tribeca
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Old 08-12-2005, 10:05 PM   #7
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it may have a 3.5l v6 but its 200hp and 219 lbs/ft torque combined with over 5,000 pounds serves up a 0-60 in 9.7 seconds...

0.5 seconds slower than a decked out 7 seater Tribeca and...
1.2 seconds slower than a 5 seater Tribeca

I would have to line up the two to believe that...it really feels like its revving the bejesus out of it in just normal driving. The Santa Fe just seems to move much easier.

And both feel WAY slower than the Volvo XC70 my wife drove home tonight.
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Old 08-13-2005, 12:07 AM   #8
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And all of them feel slower than the STi.

For it's function, I am starting to like the Tribeca. It looks like a big, angry hedgehog.... or a grown up more angry Celica

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Old 08-13-2005, 03:30 AM   #9
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I would have to line up the two to believe that...it really feels like its revving the bejesus out of it in just normal driving. The Santa Fe just seems to move much easier.

And both feel WAY slower than the Volvo XC70 my wife drove home tonight.
the XC70 is 0-60 in 9.4 with an automatic...
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:45 AM   #10
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For it's function, I am starting to like the Tribeca. It looks like a big, angry hedgehog.... or a grown up more angry Celica >>>

My blue Tribeca tooks it's first trip into Manhattan and got more compliments than I could stand. Amid a slew of semi-exotics in a Chinatown garage I spent several minutes showing the car off to people waiting for their cars, including the people running it! At red lights I get the same thing. I must have gotten a 100 compliments on the exterior thus far. Maybe 500 people are quietly hating it, but it's nice not to own a "me to" SUV.

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Old 08-13-2005, 11:21 AM   #11
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the XC70 is 0-60 in 9.4 with an automatic...
Try again skippy. And a big to you asshat.


The XC70 absolutely blows the tribeca away.
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:29 AM   #12
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My biggest gripe about it after my test drive is that my wifes Hyundai SantaFe with its 3.5l v6 will absolutely leave it in the dust. The engine just feels really underpowered and really has to rev to keep up.
check the SPEED instead of the feel. the santa fe 3.5 is slower than the Rav4, which is considerably smaller and lighter, and has a better power:weight vs the santa fe. did you put the 'beca into Sport Mode?? we did comparison driving vs the XC90, Pilot, and Murano, and Motor Trend and others have compared it to X5, MDX, FX35 and ML320, and it's done EXTREMELY well if not better than average.
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:33 AM   #13
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i hated this comparo.....let's see: crossover cadi, mag wag, SUV, swede wag....
what would it have looked like if it were a fair comparo: replace the beca with the Outback XT... and next time, they should do the XC 90, not the 70 vs the beca...
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:33 AM   #14
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not really a concern anymore...she got a XC70 last night as the Subaru dealer would not call her back with a price on a legacy wagon....go figure. She called them 3 times asking for a price and they couldn't get around to calling her back.
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:34 AM   #15
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i hated this comparo.....let's see: crossover cadi, mag wag, SUV, swede wag....
what would it have looked like if it were a fair comparo: replace the beca with the Outback XT... and next time, they should do the XC 90, not the 70 vs the beca...
Agreed....but someone was talking BS and lying about acceleration numbers. And it was teh fastest TESTED numbers I could find.
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:43 AM   #16
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not really a concern anymore...she got a XC70 last night as the Subaru dealer would not call her back with a price on a legacy wagon....go figure. She called them 3 times asking for a price and they couldn't get around to calling her back.
part 1, congrats on a very nice ford, uh, i mean volvo(jk).
part 2, your salesman at the subaru dealer should be fired.
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Old 08-13-2005, 12:54 PM   #17
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I had the same problem with them when I bought my WRX wagon! Manassas Subaru just didn't seem interested in selling cars. I walked into Stohlman Subaru and drove out and hour later with my NEW car....paid cash for it and the Volvo. Dont know how I could have made it easier for them.
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Old 08-13-2005, 12:57 PM   #18
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that's just bs man... i can't how some dealers are like that. i'm glad things worked out for you though.
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Old 08-13-2005, 01:57 PM   #19
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Instead of Limo seating think of it as London Taxi seating. The idea just opens up so may possiblities that just don't exist with the Tribeca the way that it is now.

Even if you left the outside the way that it is and the front seats too.

Even without making it longer or wider, 3 rear seats where the 3rd row seats are with the option to move them forward 8 inches and a pair of jump seats (bottom folding up) with a rear console inbetween them in the back. This would give a full rear five adult or atleast 4 and one small person, maybe 5 if it was a bit wider.

The other market opertunities that would result; Taxi, Limo or cargo hauling would be worth it and increase possible sales. (in a stripped down version)

Such a vehicle could even have that XUV tailgate/roof thingy and be very similar to the older Brat and new Baja. It would preserve the unique to Subaru idea and give real 7 adult passenger carrying capability.

Consider a 'London Taxi'. They have a similar setup inside and are about the same size as the Tribeca.




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Old 08-13-2005, 03:03 PM   #20
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i wasn't lying...it is in the back of the May 2005 Motortrend...
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:16 PM   #21
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I love my Tribeca.......traded my STI for it.
18" wheels. Huge side doors.
Always showing it off to people walking by.
Could use some more grunt, but gets me where I need to go quick.
Handles sand and small beach dunes nicely.

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Old 08-18-2005, 07:49 PM   #22
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Try again skippy. And a big to you asshat.
The XC70 absolutely blows the tribeca away.
The XC70 is also $4k more. If I got a Tribeca I wouldnt buy it to street race
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:34 PM   #23
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in a nutshell Tribeca = teh ugly

Sweet interior, hideous exterior

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Old 08-22-2005, 01:41 PM   #24
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I'm picking up my tester Tribeca tomorrow...My opinion will follow.
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Old 08-22-2005, 02:38 PM   #25
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The XC70 is also $4k more. If I got a Tribeca I wouldnt buy it to street race
Actually, by the time you get the vehicles similarly equipped its more than that...which makes this comparo even stranger. As had been said before the XC70 would be more of a competitor to the LLBean Outback....the Tribeca is so completely different in terms of driving dynamics I cannot imagine it truly being cross-shopped with either the Dodge or the Volvo.

And I wouldn't street race anything on this list....the only candidate would be the Dodge if you stepped up to the SRT8. And this is, again, another vehicle I wouldn't cross-shop to the Tribeca.
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